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  • Ugh at both of their mocks.The only player I'll take is Peterson.I'm still hoping for Locker or Ponder in round two maybe Dalton.

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    • Originally posted by Madirishman View Post
      Vote for Willis for the Cover of Madden12.

      http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/feature/madden2012cover

      He's in the Elite Eight, though Rodgers is probably the runaway favorite to win.
      Don't vote for Willis I don't want him to have a down year.
      Originally posted by 49erNation85
      I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.

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      • Originally posted by 49erNation85 View Post
        Ugh at both of their mocks.The only player I'll take is Peterson.I'm still hoping for Locker or Ponder in round two maybe Dalton.
        you HATE any mock draft that doesn't include, the love of your life, Jake Locker

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        • Originally posted by 49erNation85 View Post
          Ugh at both of their mocks.The only player I'll take is Peterson.I'm still hoping for Locker or Ponder in round two maybe Dalton.
          Half the time, you say "mit az welll juzt drift lockerrr at 7 wes all kno his the bestest QB in the draft"

          And the other half you say take him in round 2.

          It's very possible, that we draft someone at 7 (Peterson, Amukamara, Miller, Quinn) and then someone takes locker and ponder before pick #45 comes back around.

          Kiper and McShay don't mock trades, and although I don't know for sure, I would guess Locker and Ponder were both gone by our second pick.
          Originally posted by Babylon
          It's called Karma for all the years with Montana and Young.

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          • Originally posted by king2am View Post
            Half the time, you say "mit az welll juzt drift lockerrr at 7 wes all kno his the bestest QB in the draft"

            And the other half you say take him in round 2.

            It's very possible, that we draft someone at 7 (Peterson, Amukamara, Miller, Quinn) and then someone takes locker and ponder before pick #45 comes back around.

            Kiper and McShay don't mock trades, and although I don't know for sure, I would guess Locker and Ponder were both gone by our second pick.
            Yep, here is the breakdown of the QBs that went before the 49ers pick:
            Kiper
            1st Round:
            Newton
            Gabbert
            Locker
            2nd Round:
            Andy Dalton
            Ryan Mallett
            Christian Ponder

            McShay
            1st Round:
            Newton
            Gabbert
            Locker
            2nd Round:
            Christian Ponder
            Andy Dalton
            Ryan Mallett
            Colin Kaepernick

            McShay's mock had the run happening at the top of the round 2. Out of both mock drafts Kiper's was the only who has a QB going in round 3 (Kaepernick). I would think if the 49ers missed out on trading up for one of the QBs in round 2 they could use a 4th or 5th to move up in round 3 and grab Stanzi.

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            • I do think Stanzi is the backup plan in the 3rd if they don't end up with Dalton or Ponder in Round 2, or trading up into late 1 to get one of those guys.


              #thestruggleisreal with Tomsula in as HC after the "Harbacle"
              Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


              "He who thinks he knows it all has the most to learn"

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              • I saw that Baalke will make sure to get the guy that Harbaugh wants

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                • Originally posted by phlysac View Post
                  Starting to think that Harbaugh simply wants to carry four TE's. Isn't rare.
                  I just wanted to chime in and say that could be a real possibility. Harbaugh loved him some TE's at Stanford. Especially using them to block in space on the outside.


                  Originally posted by Scott Wright
                  Don't be a stranger. Jordyzzzz would want you to stick around. ;o)

                  Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy

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                  • http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post...patrick-willis

                    Ray Ray on Willis

                    Lewis, when asked which young linebackers remind him of himself:

                    I like a lot of them, but the one I talk to the most who I think kind of emulates me a lot is Patrick Willis. I just love the way he plays the game. He plays the game with a fire. He reminds me of myself -- a lot, a lot, a lot. Not just on the field, but off the field. It would definitely have to be Pat.

                    At least one thing for sure we can be thankful for.
                    Originally posted by Babylon
                    It's called Karma for all the years with Montana and Young.

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                    • So if it comes down to Prince or Quinn, who do you want? I would probably go with Quinn. I think a passrusher would be more impactful, and we haven't had one for ages. I think it would take our 3-4 to the next level. Honestly though, I like Quinn so much because Mayock likes him so much.

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                      • Originally posted by binary View Post
                        Honestly though, I like Quinn so much because Mayock likes him so much.
                        Remember, he was a HUGE Robert Ayers fan a couple years ago. I think he had him as his #1 OLB...

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                        • Originally posted by binary View Post
                          So if it comes down to Prince or Quinn, who do you want? I would probably go with Quinn. I think a passrusher would be more impactful, and we haven't had one for ages. I think it would take our 3-4 to the next level. Honestly though, I like Quinn so much because Mayock likes him so much.
                          Personally, I've been thinking about this question for the last couple weeks. I too am influenced by Mayock, I trust him more than anyone else in the business.

                          With that said, when I watch Amukamara I think sometimes he may be the best corner in the draft - but Patrick Peterson is the best player.

                          I think the reason I still have Peterson and Amukamara as 1 and 2 on my board is because I feel like Fangio could manufacture pressure up front, if he knew he had someone to cover on the back end. And what I mean is, I'd rather send the front three plus Willis and Brooks ( or whatever combination ) and see what sticks to the quarterback, knowing Amukamara's coverage skills as opposed to rushing four hoping Quinn or Miller win one on one matchups.

                          With that said, Peterson, Amukamara, Quinn and Peterson, Quinn, Amukamara - it doesn't matter a whole hell of a lot, I'd be stoked with any of the three.
                          Originally posted by Babylon
                          It's called Karma for all the years with Montana and Young.

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                          • Originally posted by edgrenade View Post
                            Remember, he was a HUGE Robert Ayers fan a couple years ago. I think he had him as his #1 OLB...
                            But he also doesn't consider Quinn as a potential 3-4 OLB.

                            I agree with the growing assesment that Mayock both has difficulty with and doesn't like projecting 4-3 DE's to 3-4 OLB.

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                            • Originally posted by king2am View Post
                              Personally, I've been thinking about this question for the last couple weeks. I too am influenced by Mayock, I trust him more than anyone else in the business.

                              With that said, when I watch Amukamara I think sometimes he may be the best corner in the draft - but Patrick Peterson is the best player.

                              I think the reason I still have Peterson and Amukamara as 1 and 2 on my board is because I feel like Fangio could manufacture pressure up front, if he knew he had someone to cover on the back end. And what I mean is, I'd rather send the front three plus Willis and Brooks ( or whatever combination ) and see what sticks to the quarterback, knowing Amukamara's coverage skills as opposed to rushing four hoping Quinn or Miller win one on one matchups.

                              With that said, Peterson, Amukamara, Quinn and Peterson, Quinn, Amukamara - it doesn't matter a whole hell of a lot, I'd be stoked with any of the three.
                              I'm still hoping Peterson will fall but I can easily see him transitioning and being an All-Pro FS in a few years; perhaps like a bigger version of Antrel Rolle.

                              Prince does appear to be the second best CB available and has more the prototype size to play CB, however the big knock on him (which Mayock and others have noted) is that he didn't play his best games against elite competition, getting burned on a handful of occasions by NFL-caliber WR talent. Some evaluators think he actually is the best CB in the Draft. Quinn has great pass rushing skills, but him being a 4/3 DE is probably an ideal scenario. Him as a 3/4 OLB is risky (See: Lawson, Manny) as he is a great athlete but questions remain if he will be able to drop and cover in space.

                              It's a tough call between Quinn and Prince at 7, but I would lean toward Prince at this point, as I feel that the risk is less and there is overall less depth at the position later in the draft; a position that the Niners need to invest a couple of this year's draft picks in IMO.

                              If they do pass on a CB in the first round, then I would like them to target CB Brandon Harris (Miami) in the second. He apparently has a bit of a 'tude but he competes for the ball, has great balance and showed arguable the best mobility/footwork at the combine. Other players from "the U" have had attitudes as well coming out, but many have been hits because they are just passionate about the game.


                              #thestruggleisreal with Tomsula in as HC after the "Harbacle"
                              Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


                              "He who thinks he knows it all has the most to learn"

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                              • Originally posted by binary
                                So if it comes down to Prince or Quinn, who do you want? I would probably go with Quinn. I think a passrusher would be more impactful, and we haven't had one for ages. I think it would take our 3-4 to the next level. Honestly though, I like Quinn so much because Mayock likes him so much.
                                PRINCE without even thinking about it. I have no interest in Quinn and why anyone here would want to risk the 7th overall draft pick on a DE who'll become an OLB in the 3-4 and hasnt played in nearly two years by the time the season starts is beyond me. I do like Mayock the best and he probably is the best but is he high on Quinn as a DE or OLB in the 3-4? I take Prince because our secondary is in worse shape than our OLB core. Even if we loe Lawson and start Brooks/Haralson, thats still not as bad as our secondary which could lose Goldson, possibly Clements if he's released and ieven if he isnt, he's not worth half of what his 2011 salary is. Spencer is solid at best but better as a nickelback and Mays is only entering his second season. If anything, im far more concernced about NT and who'll our starting ILB will be next to Willis.

                                Originally posted by king2am View Post
                                Personally, I've been thinking about this question for the last couple weeks. I too am influenced by Mayock, I trust him more than anyone else in the business.

                                With that said, when I watch Amukamara I think sometimes he may be the best corner in the draft - but Patrick Peterson is the best player.

                                I think the reason I still have Peterson and Amukamara as 1 and 2 on my board is because I feel like Fangio could manufacture pressure up front, if he knew he had someone to cover on the back end. And what I mean is, I'd rather send the front three plus Willis and Brooks ( or whatever combination ) and see what sticks to the quarterback, knowing Amukamara's coverage skills as opposed to rushing four hoping Quinn or Miller win one on one matchups.

                                With that said, Peterson, Amukamara, Quinn and Peterson, Quinn, Amukamara - it doesn't matter a whole hell of a lot, I'd be stoked with any of the three.
                                Peterson is the better playmaker but Prince is the better cover guy. I want Peterson because we havent had a playmaker in the secondary in years but I would have no problem with Prince whatsosver.

                                I'm not even interested in Quinn especially if he's being converted from a college 4-3 DE to an 3-4 OLB in the NFL. We've done that with Lawson and Haralson. How's that worked out? Why keep doing the same stupid crap that hasnt worked and think that it eventually will?

                                And even in general, I dont want Quinn whatsoever. Amazing how people consider him to be good despite the fact that he missed an entire season plus he was suspended. I dont know what he was suspended for but whatever it is, no thanks.

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