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  • http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?...od_ncf_xxx_xxx

    Interesting that the one name Patterson did mention as one of TCU's keys last year was Colin Jones. Baalke mainly spoke of him as a special teams demon, but we really need a safety to emerge from the depth charts that can make a differrence in pass defence.

    Just noticed the link is to an insider part of the site. Anyhow, Patterson credits Jones and his range with helping get the team off the field on third downs last year.

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    • Let's get some discussion in here. I know the Lockout has killed everything but let's start getting excited or worried, and put it down... Let's go 49ers!!!

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      • Of course Tampa Bay holds the cards but the Josh Johnson to 49ers talk seems to be a wish of Johnson as well.

        Q&A with Josh Johnson: Bucs QB talks Harbaugh

        Are you already sick of the new guy writing about Josh Johnson? It's OK. Tiptoe back in. I've included a transcript of my conversation with Johnson from Thursday below.

        Why? The Buccaneers' backup quarterback discusses in some interesting detail how Jim Harbaugh coached him up at the University of San Diego and, if you make it to the end, you'll also get a nice anecdote about Harbaugh vomiting (fair warning if you're reading on your lunch break).


        Away we go:


        Q: You weren't highly recruited out of high school. I assume part of that is because you were handing the ball to (Seahawks running back and high school teammate Marshawn Lynch) most of the time?

        Josh Johnson: Yeah, and I was about 5-9, too. I was a real late bloomer. But obviously (Jim Harbaugh) saw something no one else did. He came in the day after he was hired by the University of San Diego ... Coach (Alonzo) Carter from McClymonds (High) told him about me and he came up (to Oakland Tech) the next day. He watched my film and we talked. And from the moment we talked, it was like an instant bond. Just the love for the game that he has. Being able to just sit there. I love to talk Xs and Os ... and we were just talking about football.

        He was at my high school and he was pulling out pencils and started putting defensive fronts right in front of me. Just stuff like that. It got us connected because of our love of the game. It was a mutual thing that brought two distant people together.

        And then once I started playing for him, he was always honest, he was always truthful to me and I respected him as a man. He taught me a lot about being a man himself. And then from him being an NFL quarterback he taught me a lot about being able to play the game. And a lot of the reason I am who I am today is because of him.
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        Q: What are the biggest things Harbaugh taught you about playing the quarterback position?

        JJ: First and foremost he realized how smart I was about the game. And he just told me to trust my mind much more than what I was doing in high school. He made you feel real comfortable as a player to just get out and get it done. That's what he really showed me, to trust the offense that we had going and just be the player that I am. He doesn't try to mold you into a certain type of player. He takes what you have and he builds on it. And he makes your strengths become your greatness and makes your weaknesses become your strengths.

        And that's what he did. There were things I thought I shouldn't be doing and he'd say, 'No, do it.' And it would work. He teaches you to trust yourself as a player because he once was a player. A lot of coaches think it's all about Xs and Os, but at times you have to improvise as player. And that's where he's different from other coaches -- because he knows your going to have to improvise when you're out on the field.
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        Q: (Stanford quarterback) Andrew Luck has said Harbaugh taught him to be less robotic as a quarterback and to use his athletic instincts. I assume you know what he was talking about?

        JJ: Absolutely. The higher you go in the football and the more competition you face, the more teams are scouting you. And they're going to do everything they can ... whatever it is you like to do they're going to take it away from you. And if you're a robot, you won't ever be able to react to that.

        But when you let your instincts take over, you start doing things you don't always do because you're just reacting to what the situation is. And that's the thing about football. There's going to be different situations that are presented to you and you've got to be able to react within that situation and make a positive out of that negative play.
        __________________________________________________ _____________________________________

        Q: He really gave you freedom to let it rip?


        JJ: Exactly. He likes to put the foot on the gas. We were playing a team, Valparaiso and we already up maybe 28 points and I already had like three touchdowns. But the team just kept hitting me late. I remember walking to the sideline and he was yelling at the offensive coordinator, John Morton, 'Johnny, we're not running the ball for the rest of the half. Just let Josh throw it.' He was so mad because they kept hitting me late.

        That's him in a nutshell. He constantly wants to have his foot on the gas. He's an intense competitor and as a player you respect that. He gets results.
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        Q: It sounds like that USC game when he went for two.

        JJ: Exactly. I wasn't surprised at all. I was not surprised.
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        Q: Would it be OK with you if you ended up in San Francisco?

        JJ: Would it be OK? I think that questions kind of answers itself. I'll answer it in a politically correct way. If the opportunity presented itself, I'd get to come home, be with my family, play for a coach that changed my life and play for a team that I grew up loving.


        But the reality of the situation is this is a business and we're all seeing it with this lockout. So I'm a part of the Buccaneers and I have one year left. So if that's where I'll be, (Tampa Bay's) Raheem (Morris) is a great coach. I've enjoyed playing for him. It's hard when you're not on the field all the time, but you've got to make the best of the situation that you're put in. So any way I go, I'll be happy.
        __________________________________________________ _____________________________________

        Q: Given your experience, I assume you expect Harbaugh to make Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick better?


        JJ: Most definitely. They will have no choice but to get better. He's going to push you to that point. He used to run guys off in college that didn't want to get better. Literally. He would run them off the team. That's what he does. He forces you to get better as a player. It's just on you to take what he's teaching you and trusting it and doing something good with it.
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        Q: Obviously it's different for every player, but how much did Harbaugh work on your throwing mechanics?

        JJ: He doesn't change that. He believes you are who you are. Every guy throws the ball differently. It comes off everyone's hand different. It was just about getting the ball there. On time and accurate. That was his thing. The thing he teaches you is more about the rhythm of the game, the rhythm of the play. Each drop is different according to the route combination that you have on the play. That's what he taught me.

        It wasn't a five-step fast drop every time. It was, 'OK on a curl route, it's more of rhythm drop as opposed to a route that's a speed out.' There are different kind of drops and a different kind of feel that you have to have to where once you get back to the top of your drop, your feet are right on time with the play. And that's what he teaches. That's the big difference. In high school you just learn, this a three-step drop. This a five-step this is a seven-step. He teaches you to feel the game and the rhythm of it and how to feel it out. Then you are able to let your instincts and ability take over a lot more with that.
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        Q: Most successful NFL quarterbacks go into broadcasting or just kick their heels up after they retire. As an athlete did it give you more confidence knowing that (Harbaugh) had played 15 years in the NFL?

        JJ: It gives you confidence and there's a certain respect factor. Not to put down any other coaches ... but there's some coaches that never played the game. So they may not be able to understand with certainty what you're seeing or what you're going through. He has that. It makes it easier for you to respect what he's saying because he was under the fire for many years and successful as well. It makes it easy to trust what he's saying and to go out there and apply to it your game.
        __________________________________________________ _____________________________________

        Q: With the 49ers drafting Colin Kaepernick, it would seem to make San Francisco a less desirable spot for a young quarterback. Does it change how you view the situation?

        JJ: I will compete with anybody, any time, anywhere. Putting a title on anything is just a title. Titles can be changed. So however our situation plays out, I'm fine with competing. I've been doing it my whole life. I wouldn't have it any other way. I like to earn my keep. I don't really like to have anything handed to me anyway. So if a situation presented itself where I could compete, I feel like that would be great. It's not doing anything but making me better and getting me ready to play in the NFL, which is competition like no other.

        __________________________________________________ _____________________________________

        Q: Did you expect to eventually see Harbaugh in the NFL?

        JJ: I'm not surprised at all that he's in the NFL ... I knew he wasn't going to be at Stanford for long because he wants to win at the highest level. And I think he's going to do that because he's had success everywhere he's been. He works at it, he gets his player to buy in to what he believes in and that's the most important part. If your players will go and execute your plan, and you're a good coach, success happens ...

        He wants players that love football because he loves football. If you don't love football, you're going to think he's crazy. He used to get out there and practice with us. He gets into it. He used to run with us. I mean, one time he was running, and he was throwing up as he's running, and he kept running. That just sums him up. You love it. He's actually going out there through the grind with you. It makes it easy to go into battle with a guy like that. You respect that.
        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=92791

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        • I'll take any Quarterback over David Carr as backup.

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          • Johnson is still signed through this season and his play to this point doesn't warrant trading for his services. However, I'd be shocked if he didn't make be-line for 49ers headquarters as a FA after next season. He speaks glowing of Harbs and by that time Alex and Carr will be long gone. I think if we bring in another QB, it'll be a vet with experience in the WCO and some experience as a starter in the league.

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            • I think he has shown much better ability in limited action than David Carr. The 49ers desperately need a reliable, veteran option to protect Kaepernick should Alex Smith go down with injury or complete sucktitude. Will it be Johnson? Not highly likely, but he seems to fit the mold best.

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              • Originally posted by phlysac View Post
                I think he has shown much better ability in limited action than David Carr. The 49ers desperately need a reliable, veteran option to protect Kaepernick should Alex Smith go down with injury or complete sucktitude. Will it be Johnson? Not highly likely, but he seems to fit the mold best.
                I totally disagree. I watched Johnson play in Morris's first year as coach. Granted the team was horrible, but Johnson's play didn't inspire much confidence. I just dont think he's capable of holding down a starting position at this stage in his development. And I dont see how anyone can call him a veteran when he's started a grand total of 3 games in his NFL career. And he's defintely not worth losing a draft pick over when you can just wait a year and sign him outright.

                And I dont see the correlation between him and Carr. Carr is likely the 3rd string QB if he makes the team. He's also currently under contract, and does have the distinction of posting his best statsitcal year as a NFL QB with Greg Roman as his OC. Im not a Carr fan in the least but Im not willing just write the guy off because he stunk it up for a couple of series in Carolina. Just like Harb's isnt going to write-off Alex because he's pretty much stunk it up his whole career. He's the back-up to the back-up......right were I think he should be.

                Best case sceniro is we go into camp with Alex, CK7, and Carr as planned and then we bring in a veteran QB with starting experience in the WCO like McNabb or a under the radar guy like Sage Rosenfels. Have those four battle it out in TC for three roster spots. May the best three win.
                Last edited by VAfy-ya; 07-22-2011, 09:22 AM.

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                • I'm just not sure how you can be confident with CK as the backup. And as far as ignoring the porr play Carr had shown. Why only consider Johnson's missteps while ignoring Carr's?

                  I'm not saying Josh Johnson is "clearly" a tremendous backup who would step in should Smith go down and play exceptionally. What I'm sayin is that Josh Johnson is a veteran as far as what it means to be a professional QB and getting playing time. It's also intriguing to consider the success that he's had with Harbaugh as his HC and how much he'd love to be a 49er.

                  What we can agree on is that another veteran should be brought in. However, this is in opposition to the whispers that Frohman will likely be a 49er.

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                  • i like frohman.


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                    • Originally posted by hawkeye123 View Post
                      I'll take any Quarterback over David Carr as backup.
                      This. Bring back Jarrett Brown or Nate Davis even for that matter. Anyone but David Carr.

                      "Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
                      -San Francisco 49ers: Five Time Super Bowl Champions-
                      Originally posted by Borat
                      Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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                      • Backup QB wise, who could we possibly sign to replace Carr as the veteran backup? I dont know his salary but I wouldnt spend more than what he's getting for 2011 on someone else. And here's something that no one has considered....what if Alex Smith gets a better offer from another team and bolts to that team? I think thats a definite possibility because a team like SEA who'll most likely let Hasselbeck leave as an UFA will need someone to replace him. I see Smith beating out Whitehurst easily compared to beating out Kapernick.

                        No matter what, I wouldnt start Kapernick until 2012 unless he's the week one starter in 2011. I dont want a repeat of Rattay/Smith because that was ******* stupid. Rookie QB's who start mid-season rarely if ever workout. The rookie QB either needs to start from week one or sit on the bench for a year (ala Carson Palmer).

                        Of course, the way things are going, the only football we'll be seeing is via Madden for Xbox 360 or PS3.

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                        • I still think we'll bring in Froman but I doubt he's makes the squad. But he's a guy you can stash on the practice squad for a year. I think the short window between TC and cut-down day in this abbreviated off-season will see less player movement after final cuts. That's just my hunch anyway. So I think guy like Froman would be safe if we cut him and then signed him to the practice squad.

                          And Im not dismissing Carr's faults. And just don't believe in trading for a guy who isnt expontenially better than the one you have. And I dont believe JJ is that much of a upgrade from Carr at this point. Doesn't mean I don't think JJ has a bright future and wouldn't love to sign him as a FA in 2012. Like I said, I see Carr as a 3rd stringer and as 3rd stringers go, Carr would be one of the better ones. So yes, you could say I have alot of faith in Kaepernick. I have faith that he'll be better than Carr from jump......and ready to challenge Alex as the starter midway through the season. I know he's widely regarded as a "project" but I think CK7 will surprise some. Intially I felt he wouldn't sniff the field as a rookie but I've soften on that stance. Again, just a hunch.....only time will tell though.

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                          • Originally posted by dan77733 View Post
                            Backup QB wise, who could we possibly sign to replace Carr as the veteran backup? I dont know his salary but I wouldnt spend more than what he's getting for 2011 on someone else. And here's something that no one has considered....what if Alex Smith gets a better offer from another team and bolts to that team? I think thats a definite possibility because a team like SEA who'll most likely let Hasselbeck leave as an UFA will need someone to replace him. I see Smith beating out Whitehurst easily compared to beating out Kapernick.

                            No matter what, I wouldnt start Kapernick until 2012 unless he's the week one starter in 2011. I dont want a repeat of Rattay/Smith because that was ******* stupid. Rookie QB's who start mid-season rarely if ever workout. The rookie QB either needs to start from week one or sit on the bench for a year (ala Carson Palmer).

                            Of course, the way things are going, the only football we'll be seeing is via Madden for Xbox 360 or PS3.
                            No chance. Harbaugh gave him a playbook before the lockout and he has been running team practices/workouts with the team.

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                            • I'm still worried that Alex won't be able to pull it together with this season.Just bring in a vet.Still maybe there is some signs of hope.

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                              • I'd be shocked if Alex isn't our starter come September. I like the potential in Kaepernick, but really prefer he learn on the sideline for a while. I don't think much of Carr, so I wouldn't mind seeing a vet added to try and bump him from the roster. I think maybe bringing in Bruce Gradkowski might be the way to go.

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