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  • As expected, the two year $12m contract for Boldin is more like a one year deal. Granted, the team would take a cap hit of just over $2.72m next year but they would save $6m in cap room. Unless Boldin copies 2013, I will be shocked to see him on the roster come April 1st, 2015.

    Year
    Base/Prorated bonus/Roster bonus/Workout bonus/Other bonus/Cap number/Dead money/Cap savings

    2014
    $955,000/$2,272,500/$500,000/$0/$0/$3,727,500/$5,500,000/($1,772,500)

    2015
    $5,500,000/$2,272,500/$500,000/$0/$0/$8,727,500/$2,272,500/$6,000,000

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    • So Harbaugh and the 49ers put Eastern Illinois QB Jimmy Garappolo (sp) through a private workout today.

      I wonder if its a smokescreen or if they're actually looking at QB's that high (i think he's around a 2nd rounder). For example, i don't think a team like the Panthers or Seahawks (other teams with young QB's) would put a high draft pick QB in a private workout...or perhaps its just due diligence and not a big deal at all.

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      • Due diligence.

        Harbaugh already said his release can be "too quick" and he'd like him to "use the full motion."

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        • Originally posted by 49ersfan_87 View Post
          So Harbaugh and the 49ers put Eastern Illinois QB Jimmy Garappolo (sp) through a private workout today.

          I wonder if its a smokescreen or if they're actually looking at QB's that high (i think he's around a 2nd rounder). For example, i don't think a team like the Panthers or Seahawks (other teams with young QB's) would put a high draft pick QB in a private workout...or perhaps its just due diligence and not a big deal at all.
          Originally posted by phlysac View Post
          Due diligence.

          Harbaugh already said his release can be "too quick" and he'd like him to "use the full motion."
          Question -

          Doesnt each team have a limit in regards to scouting players and bringing them in for a visit?

          If so, I dont see wasting a visit on a QB as im expecting a veteran t be signed and thats it.

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          • The schedule is out. We get the late Thanksgiving game hosting Seattle. Then two weeks later we are back in Seattle. Facing the Raiders on the road in-between.



            Overall this is the best looking schedule we've had in two years. Largely because we're playing the NFC East and AFC West. I'm guessing 11-5 record if our key players stay healthy. Our losses will be at Denver, at Seattle, at New Orleans, vs Philadelphia, and at Arizona.

            "Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
            -San Francisco 49ers: Five Time Super Bowl Champions-
            Originally posted by Borat
            Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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            • Originally posted by dan77733
              Considering how much bad PR this team has had this off-season, would it really matter if they pick up his option? Seriously, for under $10m for 2015, it would be stupid not to. Also, the fifth year option isnt guaranteed until either the first day of the 2015 league year or opening kickoff Sunday (dont know which since I have read different articles mentioning both) so at the very least, the 49ers have 9 months to decide to keep him for 2015 or not. Also, if he doesnt go to jail, he'll most likely be suspended but im guessing that it would be a four game suspension as it would be his first suspension by the league. Even if its an eight game suspension, you have to wonder if some other team would be interested in trading for him especially at under $15m for 2014 and 2015 combined.

              Bottom line is that NOT picking up his option has a far greater chance at backfiring as opposed to picking up his option. I'm not happy with Aldon (among others) but his option needs to be picked up so the team can control his rights. What happens if he avoids jail time, misses eight games but in the eight games he plays, gets a total of eight sacks or better?

              Then what? Franchise tag which would cost a lot more than the under $10m option. Let him walk for free? Hell no. There's no risk to picking up the option which in turn means that you do it regardless of how it looks PR wise because in the long run, the PR could be far worse if he leaves as an UFA in 2015 and does awesome with a new team and more importantly, stays out of trouble.
              I agree that they they should pick up the option unless they feel that they don't want him on the team anymore. That seems to be the reasoning behind taking the gamble of not picking it up, with him proving that he deserves a new contract. The school of thought on this is that if he knows he has $9M+ more coming to him, that he'll let down his guard and maybe make more poor decisions; however I've read that the option is not guaranteed if he is suspended by the team or the league. We'll see what happens in the next week.


              #thestruggleisreal with Tomsula in as HC after the "Harbacle"
              Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


              "He who thinks he knows it all has the most to learn"

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              • Regarding the sked, I like the mid-season bye-week placement. It'll be tough to go against the Hawks on Thanksgiving on a short week after facing the Redskins but at least both those games are at home. Another tough month to start a season but this team is battle-tested and used to it. I'll be attending the Week 3 game so I'm pumped about that!


                #thestruggleisreal with Tomsula in as HC after the "Harbacle"
                Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


                "He who thinks he knows it all has the most to learn"

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                • Scott Mac leaving the Seachickens for 'personal reasons.'

                  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...sonal-matters/

                  Dude has an eye for talent but he also has two for the bottle it seems. He's hoping to set his own scouting department up from home for consultations. Hopefully it all gets straightened out for him as he's helped build two great teams.


                  #thestruggleisreal with Tomsula in as HC after the "Harbacle"
                  Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


                  "He who thinks he knows it all has the most to learn"

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                  • Originally posted by Madirishman
                    I agree that they they should pick up the option unless they feel that they don't want him on the team anymore. That seems to be the reasoning behind taking the gamble of not picking it up, with him proving that he deserves a new contract. The school of thought on this is that if he knows he has $9M+ more coming to him, that he'll let down his guard and maybe make more poor decisions; however I've read that the option is not guaranteed if he is suspended by the team or the league. We'll see what happens in the next week.
                    Technically, he'll think that he has $9m+ coming but until the date comes that its guaranteed, he doesnt. Team could still release him before that due date. Also, he's been participating in the off-season workouts that started the other day and that's a risk for the team too because if he gets injured, his 2014 salary becomes fully guaranteed. Another week to go.

                    Originally posted by Madirishman
                    Regarding the sked, I like the mid-season bye-week placement. It'll be tough to go against the Hawks on Thanksgiving on a short week after facing the Redskins but at least both those games are at home. Another tough month to start a season but this team is battle-tested and used to it. I'll be attending the Week 3 game so I'm pumped about that!
                    Was hoping to kickoff the season in Seattle. Oh well.

                    Originally posted by Madirishman
                    Scott Mac leaving the Seachickens for 'personal reasons.'

                    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...sonal-matters/

                    Dude has an eye for talent but he also has two for the bottle it seems. He's hoping to set his own scouting department up from home for consultations. Hopefully it all gets straightened out for him as he's helped build two great teams.
                    Scot should go to the Rams for a few years and then the Cardinals. If he builds them up good enough, he could be the guy responsible for helping the entire NFC West. LOL.

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                    • Meh, I don't how much credit Scotty Mac deserves for anything Seattle has done. Schniner is defintely the man that has impacted that franchise the most, from a personnel standpoint.

                      A few things about our schedule compared to the other teams in the division:

                      - We're the only team without an early bye. The Rams, Cardinals and Seattle all have their bye on week 4. Ours isn't until week 8.

                      - The other three teams in the divison are at home before their bye week and then on the road. Not us. We're on the road before our bye and then at home.

                      - Arizona and Seattle have only one time when they have two home games in a row, St. Louis has two, and we have three.

                      - We have to travel to the east coast once, Seattle and St. Louis three times, and Arizona twice.

                      - In our final six game we never have to leave the Pacific time-zone, and with one of our away games in Oakland probably only going to be a simple bus ride, our only flight in that stretch is to Seattle.

                      Our schedule is very favorable out of all in the the NFC West.
                      Last edited by VAfy-ya; 05-03-2014, 04:27 PM.

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                      • Good observations on the sked. If the Niners start out hot in the first 4 games when their schedule is arguably the most challenging (opponents and travel considered), I think that they'll hit their stride and then the 2 games in 3 weeks vs Seattle late in the season will naturally be games that likely decide the division and playoff seeding.


                        #thestruggleisreal with Tomsula in as HC after the "Harbacle"
                        Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


                        "He who thinks he knows it all has the most to learn"

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                        • The "they weren't taught" quote from Dilfer is especially strong considering Baalke stressed that he wanted to hire a teacher as his next coach.

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                          • Originally posted by VAfy-ya
                            That's an opinion that isn't readily shared by all Niner fans. Me myself, and I know a few dozen Niner fans personally who feel excatly as I did, I wanted Mooch gone. I thought he was a mediocre coach that could do just enough but would never win a SB. I was relived when they fired him. I never saw that as York screwing anyone over. Just so happens the next coach inherited a talent-deprived team due to GM mis-management. If Mooch would have stayed, he would have done no better than Erickson with what he had to work with. It was more about no being to field a talented team than it was about who was on the sideline. That's my take on it. I understand some fans still hold it against the Yorks but they're greatest flaw was listening to Bill Walsh and leaving the organization in the hands of Donahue. He's the one that blew draft after draft on early round busts and brought the term "cap-hell" to life.

                            As far Harbaugh, things will soon come to light but some of you will never accept that he had a hand in this and that yes, no matter how many players embraced him, some did have an issue with him and his grinding ways...



                            Like I've said, two sides...

                            I found it very interesting that York intimated in the press conference that he wants his next coach to be a teacher, like Bill Walsh. Then Dilfer seperately speaks about how it will be revealed that some didn't think they were improving or getting better under Harbaugh. And then we as fans comment every year how the offense didn't evolve or use guy's skill-set to maximize mis-matches or play to their strengths. There's ALWAYS been a deeper issue than money and clashing personalities. These kind of revelations point more to the 'philosophical differences' York eluded to.
                            LMAO at the "teacher" card. Did you listen to the press conference? 5 minutes after that Trent said that Jim was an excellent "teacher". It's just PR ********. It's hilarious how you just slurp it all up. Jim wasn't a good teacher? Jim didn't help the 49ers go from being a perennial doormat to a Super Bowl contender every single season except one? He got results. End of the story. Hell it was a miracle that will all the front office and media garbage, player arrests, tough division, and injuries we even got to 8-8.

                            And really? Trent Dilfer is your ace in the hole? A guy that is NEVER around the facilities we'll believe compared to the dozens of players that have personally vouched for Harbs this year? Trent Dilfer, as usual, is a moron and doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't care if he has ties to the bay area just because he lives out here.

                            Oh and "philosophical differences" is completely ambiguous. We have no idea what that means or what it entails. So for you to sit there and claim what you believe York is talking about is conjecture based on nothing.

                            Sure there are two sides to every story. What we do know though is that for an entire year information has been consistently leaked from to the media that a price was on Harbaugh's head. Even before the season started. Not once did Jed come out and say that Harbaugh is here for the long term or whatever. All he said around October and then today was the "49ers are trying to win the Super Bowl" response. That's it. No public backing for Harbaugh other than saying "he's our coach" in a Rice Eisen interview and a tweet earlier in the year. But saying "he is our coach" doesn't mean "he is our guy and we support him 100%". Hell, if York would have simply lied to everyone and then pulled the rug from underneath folks today it would have been better than the year-long speculation that was a huge distraction.

                            Jed York has turned into a complete dirtbag like his pops. Which brings me to the Mariucci fiasco. It's so easy to sit there and say Mooch would have failed because of the cap problems or whatever. I could also easily say that due to coaching and continuity that a Mariucci-led team in 2003 makes the playoffs instead of a Dennis Erickson-led team. Just like a Harbaugh-led team in 2011 went 13-3 with most of the same players from 2010 when a Mike Singletary-led team couldn't finish better than third in the NFC West where the 7-9 Seahawks won the division. Taking Terry Donahue's side over Mariucci was ******** plain and simple. He was a puppet of Walsh and was never a major player in front office experience. York had to learn that the hard way of course. And instead of Jed realizing from his father's mistake, he's playing right into his hands and citing "philosophical differences" as a complete cop out.

                            You can drink the cool-aid bro. I won't have any part of it. I've been listening to the airwaves today and everyone is furious. Even the beat writers. To have no reasonable explanation at all is a complete cop out and a middle finger to the fans.

                            "Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
                            -San Francisco 49ers: Five Time Super Bowl Champions-
                            Originally posted by Borat
                            Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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                            • Originally posted by phlysac View Post
                              The "they weren't taught" quote from Dilfer is especially strong considering Baalke stressed that he wanted to hire a teacher as his next coach.
                              Which is funny because Colin K was apparently emotional in a media meeting the other day regarding Harbaugh and how influential he's been in helping him.

                              And now that I've said that, I'm sure folks will cite his bad year and all that other garbage while ignoring every other aspect of a team sport that failed to live up to expectations this year.

                              "Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
                              -San Francisco 49ers: Five Time Super Bowl Champions-
                              Originally posted by Borat
                              Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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                              • Originally posted by Ness View Post
                                Which is funny because Colin K was apparently emotional in a media meeting the other day regarding Harbaugh and how influential he's been in helping him.

                                And now that I've said that, I'm sure folks will cite his bad year and all that other garbage while ignoring every other aspect of a team sport that failed to live up to expectations this year.
                                I'm certain Harbaugh taught his QBs alot. There are other positions on the roster.

                                And to be fair to Dilfer... in 2012 and 2013 Dilfer consistently emoted how amazing and creative he felt the 49ers running game and utilization of pistol was.

                                They stopped being creative with it and didn't consistently run the ball in 2014.


                                http://49ersnews.com/2013/01/trent-d...lmstudy-49ers/
                                Last edited by phlysac; 12-30-2014, 12:46 AM.

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