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  • Not gonna lie, I really do not want Ryan Mallet. I'm thinking we just say **** it and go BPA.

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    • If we take a QB, I want it to be Mallett. At #25, the risk is minimal. It's not like we're passing on obvious blue-chip prospects, especially in a weak draft.

      This could be a franchise-altering draft. If we take the wrong QB, we could become cellar-dwellers for the next few years. If we take the right one, we could get back to being a perennial playoff contender.

      And if we roll with Whitehurst and/or Hasselbeck, ignoring QB this year (probably not a terrible idea), we'll continue to be mediocre until we address the position (with the VERY slim chance that Whitehurst Kurt Warner's us).
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      • I'm thinking I'm going to try my hardest to trade down in the forum mock. Any objections ha?

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        • Originally posted by gpngc View Post
          If we take a QB, I want it to be Mallett. At #25, the risk is minimal. It's not like we're passing on obvious blue-chip prospects, especially in a weak draft.

          This could be a franchise-altering draft. If we take the wrong QB, we could become cellar-dwellers for the next few years. If we take the right one, we could get back to being a perennial playoff contender.

          And if we roll with Whitehurst and/or Hasselbeck, ignoring QB this year (probably not a terrible idea), we'll continue to be mediocre until we address the position
          If we don't get a different QB, that 7-9, 8-8 range is going to be our ceiling. not to mention our schedule is going to be harder next year due to making the playoffs.

          (with the VERY slim chance that Whitehurst Kurt Warner's us).
          Which would be awesome beyond all belief. But I think it's probably cruel of you even to suggest that could happen, because Whitehurst's got nothing.

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          • John Schneider hinting that he wants to trade out of the first round (there would be several takers i believe). Not sure that anything these guys say at this stage of the process is believable. If he means it as a blanket statement then it means he doesnt want to take a QB like a Locker or a Mallett that may fall to him. I find this rather curious and disturbing. Something tells me they are going about it the wrong way but will reserve judgement for draft day. If they pass on Locker to trade down and draft a guard in the second round Pete is going to look like the biggest idiot out there in a year or two.

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            • Schnieder admitted last year that they were planning on trading down form 14, but Earl Thomas fell to them and he was too good to pass up. I think it's the same thing in that the players that they want, they think are going to be gone before they pick.

              However if someone is there that is one of their first choices, then I don't see them trading down.
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              • If anyone wants to take a peak at the forum mock and give me some input on my upcoming pick, go for it!

                -- He said it was important for head coach Pete Carroll in his first year to make the playoffs, but also admitted to cringing a little after watching the Seahawks defeat St. Louis in the final game of the season -- a win that cost the Seahawks a drop from No. 8 to No. 25.
                http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seaha...ob/#more-10151

                I'm kinda surprised he admitted that haha but looks like we weren't the only ones.
                Last edited by Cicero; 04-19-2011, 01:58 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Cicero View Post
                  If anyone wants to take a peak at the forum mock and give me some input on my upcoming pick, go for it!


                  http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seaha...ob/#more-10151

                  I'm kinda surprised he admitted that haha but looks like we weren't the only ones.
                  GM types think a little differant than players and coaches, who try to win every game no matter what (cant blame them). Another issue with picking #25 as opposed to #9 is it takes effect in every round.

                  If the Seahawks had a top 10 pick what would the discussion be like in here. They might at the end of the day trade down anyways.

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                  • Originally posted by Babylon View Post
                    GM types think a little differant than players and coaches, who try to win every game no matter what (cant blame them). Another issue with picking #25 as opposed to #9 is it takes effect in every round.

                    If the Seahawks had a top 10 pick what would the discussion be like in here. They might at the end of the day trade down anyways.
                    I would most likely not want to trade down from #9. If we managed to snag Robert Quinn or AJ Green I would jump for joy. I wouldn't mind getting Tyron or Aldon Smith there either honestly.

                    It seems like too often by 25 the only guys left are DTs or OTs who don't belong in the first round but continue to be mocked there. Unless Mebane leaves our starting line is pretty solid and while we need depth, I don't think a backup for Cole, Mebane, or Bryant is where we need to go with our first round pick. If we could get Quinn or Smith I think it would be worth using more traditional 4-3 looks on running downs and we could do some 3-4 looks on passing downs because I think either one of those guys could play OLB and I know Clemons could.

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                    • Originally posted by Cicero View Post
                      I would most likely not want to trade down from #9. If we managed to snag Robert Quinn or AJ Green I would jump for joy. I wouldn't mind getting Tyron or Aldon Smith there either honestly.

                      It seems like too often by 25 the only guys left are DTs or OTs who don't belong in the first round but continue to be mocked there. Unless Mebane leaves our starting line is pretty solid and while we need depth, I don't think a backup for Cole, Mebane, or Bryant is where we need to go with our first round pick. If we could get Quinn or Smith I think it would be worth using more traditional 4-3 looks on running downs and we could do some 3-4 looks on passing downs because I think either one of those guys could play OLB and I know Clemons could.
                      They could have the Steel Curtain up front and they arent going anywhere till they get their QB situation straightened out and i dont mean by bringing back Hasselbeck.

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                      • I think I've swung back to wishing for Brandon Harris. I'm starting to be more and more convinced that any QB who's going to be available at #25 is a guy who's going to be a reach at #25. Take the solid DB. It's a need, and Harris would be a good value pick as well. And he bats balls into the air all the time, which is the way Earl Thomas likes it.

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                        • Originally posted by Calubflower View Post
                          I think I've swung back to wishing for Brandon Harris. I'm starting to be more and more convinced that any QB who's going to be available at #25 is a guy who's going to be a reach at #25. Take the solid DB. It's a need, and Harris would be a good value pick as well. And he bats balls into the air all the time, which is the way Earl Thomas likes it.
                          Not that familiar with Harris but i think corner is a major need. I'd even look at OT if one of the better ones were there at 25. the thing with the QBs is unless it's Locker or Mallett anything we take is probably reaching on a second round pick. Might as well just take one with their second and at that point it could be Kaepernick or Dalton and that is a realistic spot for those guys.

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                          • Final ([semi]realistic) first-round wish list:

                            1. Jake Locker
                            2. Cameron Jordan (Fully expect him to be gone.)
                            3. Brandon Harris
                            4. Greg Little (Not a need, per se, and most might call it a reach, but I've definitely got a first-round grade on him and we need some playmakers. He'd be a BPA pick.)
                            5. Gabe Carimi (He's a solid run-blocking RT, and that's what we need.)
                            Last edited by Caulibflower; 04-27-2011, 05:41 PM.

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                            • It is interesting the difference of opinions that we have. My feelings on your list:

                              Locker and Jordan will be long gone in my opinion.

                              I personally feel that Brandon Harris is overrated. I'd take him early second, but I have serious doubts about him ever turning into a franchise CB.

                              If you have a 1st round grade on Little thats great, but I think with the year off from football, I have serious doubts that he will go in the first. More likely a player we pick up in the second or third. Concerns about maturity are probably valid, which could make him available in the 3rd. At that point he becomes a steal if he turns out and nothing if he doesn't.

                              I actually like Carimi a lot. I think he could end up on the left side, but I kind of feel like we'd spend that pick on an OG or DT/DE before we spent it on a RT. I also think that there is a chance that he is gone depending on if there is a run on OT's somewhere in the draft.

                              I feel like the best option that Hawks have is to move back into the early second, pick up an extra third, and draft Kaepernick.

                              My QB rankings actually go like this:

                              Tier 1 (Most likely to succeed): Gabbert, Locker, Mallet
                              Tier 2 (Boom or Bust): Newton, Kaepernick
                              Tier 3 (Don't touch until R4): Ponder (he would be tier 2 if I didn't think he'd get injured if you blew on him), Stanzi, Dalton

                              Where I think Gabbert is at worst a career backup, Mallet is just too good to bust, Locker I'm 50/50 on if he's going to bust, it depends on what situation he gets put into. His work ethic and attitude are really the things that make me think he'll be a success though.

                              My other thought is that Newton is going to start to bust and then become David Garrard-ish. He likes being in the spotlight too much to completely bust.
                              Last edited by summond822; 04-27-2011, 06:54 PM.
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                              • So, I'm hearing that the Seahawks are interested in trading for Carson Palmer. From multiple sources it sounds like they could get him for a 5th and a conditional (likely 3rd) and that a deal is already in place, or at least has been talked about.

                                I think the thing that drove the price down was Palmer saying that he would only negotiate with Seattle.

                                I am all for this move and then drafting a young QB to sit behind Palmer for a couple of years and really groom them for being the QB of the future. Since we're less than a day away from the draft, might as well put it in the draft thread.

                                How do you think this affects the Seahawks draft and what is your opinion on this?
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