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  • #16
    Originally posted by edge_V View Post
    Why not? Willis is a beast. Okoye is Claude Wroten again.
    How do you figure that? Ignoring the obvious maturity and off the field differences that make your comparison questionable from the get-go, Okoye at 19 years old is already an outstanding football player and has tremendous amounts of potential to get better as he continues to develop. Willis is the top MLB prospect and improved his stock this weekend, and though I think he'll be an excellent player in this league linebackers simply aren't valued as high unless they're among the elite ranks. Willis may be a beast, but I simply don't see how you can rank him over a prospect like Okoye at this point.

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    • #17
      Any thoughts on the Rams trading up for a Gaines Adams?


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      • #18
        I don't think trading up is much of an option, at least not unless we have a guy drop down into the 8-10 range where it's not going to cost an arm and a leg to move up.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by NGSeiler View Post
          How do you figure that? Ignoring the obvious maturity and off the field differences that make your comparison questionable from the get-go, Okoye at 19 years old is already an outstanding football player and has tremendous amounts of potential to get better as he continues to develop. Willis is the top MLB prospect and improved his stock this weekend, and though I think he'll be an excellent player in this league linebackers simply aren't valued as high unless they're among the elite ranks. Willis may be a beast, but I simply don't see how you can rank him over a prospect like Okoye at this point.
          i admit Okoye is a great fit playmakers like Willis wont come around often there isnt another LB in the draft even close to him he would be a great fit if he's gone to Buffalo then Okoye would be good pick

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          • #20
            Originally posted by KCJ58 View Post
            i admit Okoye is a great fit playmakers like Willis wont come around often there isnt another LB in the draft even close to him he would be a great fit if he's gone to Buffalo then Okoye would be good pick
            Playmakers like Willis don't come around that often? Look at the history of first round and early second round linebackers over the last couple of years. We had Hawk, Sims, and Ryans who all played well as rookies in 2006. The year before you had guys like Shawne Merriman, Thomas Davis, Demarcus Ware, and Derrick Johnson. In 2004 you had prospects like Jonathan Vilma, DJ Williams, and Karlos Dansby at the top of the second round.

            It would seem to me that there have been a number of playmaking linebackers available over the last couple of years, moreso than defensive tackles taken in the same range. To say these guys don't come around often doesn't seem to gel with history, and certainly doesn't strike me as the kind of justification one would need to take Willis over Okoye. Heck, if either of these two players fits into the description of "guys who don't come around often," it's Okoye.
            Last edited by NGSeiler; 03-02-2007, 02:00 AM.

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            • #21
              With what we have done so far I would say we are still staying with DT and OLB as the top of our draft list. Anyone think different.


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              • #22
                Originally posted by freebirdsrams02 View Post
                With what we have done so far I would say we are still staying with DT and OLB as the top of our draft list. Anyone think different.
                I don't think you can rule out DE even though we traded a fifth rounder for Hall. Neither he nor Little are spring chickens. I think the Rams would be willing to go DE if they like the guys still on the board.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by NGSeiler View Post
                  Playmakers like Willis don't come around that often? Look at the history of first round and early second round linebackers over the last couple of years. We had Hawk, Sims, and Ryans who all played well as rookies in 2006. The year before you had guys like Shawne Merriman, Thomas Davis, Demarcus Ware, and Derrick Johnson. In 2004 you had prospects like Jonathan Vilma, DJ Williams, and Karlos Dansby at the top of the second round.

                  It would seem to me that there have been a number of playmaking linebackers available over the last couple of years, moreso than defensive tackles taken in the same range. To say these guys don't come around often doesn't seem to gel with history, and certainly doesn't strike me as the kind of justification one would need to take Willis over Okoye. Heck, if either of these two players fits into the description of "guys who don't come around often," it's Okoye.
                  you make a very good point. But idk, Willis is a monster. Okoye also had me giddy for a while. I think its a toss up right now. considering we have "filled" a couple needs and will most likely be left with having to pick BPA. We might be able to take another good LB in the second. damn idk, we'll have to see with FA.

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                  • #24
                    I think the texans signing Peterson throws this thing off, as well as buffalo possibly trading Mcgahee. It should make tihngsvery interesting. If lynch falls to us we could bein a nice situation like last season
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                    • #25
                      What do you guys think of Stewart Bradley as a lateday one or early day 2 pick. He is a big body who projects on the strongside 6'4 255
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tom_23 View Post
                        What do you guys think of Stewart Bradley as a lateday one or early day 2 pick. He is a big body who projects on the strongside 6'4 255
                        I don't think he makes it to Day Two. My impression is that he impressed both at the Senior Bowl and at the combine. I would guess he could come off the board in the late second round or early to mid third.

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                        • #27
                          yea...I think we can snag him in the third. If we don't sign a real SLB and use our first on okoye and someone else in the second (like Woodley or Moses, or whoever. Although it might seem unlikely that we use all our first day picks on defense alone.) I think he'd be a good pickup in the third.

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                          • #28
                            I'd be fine with bradley in the 3rd, I am still for drafting for Ginn or Willis
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Tom_23 View Post
                              I'd be fine with bradley in the 3rd, I am still for drafting for Ginn or Willis
                              Why do we draft a first round receiver after spending $30 million in free agency on the position?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by NGSeiler View Post
                                Why do we draft a first round receiver after spending $30 million in free agency on the position?
                                its pretty clear that we won't be drafting a WR in the first, now that we have signed Bennett, especially not one who is 5'11" and 178lbs, Linehan is into bigger receivers

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