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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jay View Post
    I don't like what he is becoming, and I think he'd be easier to replace. Jarvis Green did great while Seymour was out. I think we could easily get a first for Seymour and replace him with a cheaper, younger part with better knees.

    The secondary is what killed us. It wasn't the LB's. Ellis Hobbs is a great player. He is not a #1 or #2 corner in this league. He's a great nickel guy. But the Giants converted on third down at will, and they weren't the only team. The secondary is flawed, and losing Asante would kill us. Parting with Seymour is the best way to improve this defense from the bottom up, and there would be little drop off with in house candidates.
    Fair enough. That is pretty good reasoning. Especially if we are able to nab Chris Long in the 1st, then we could rotate him in with Warren and Green. I def think we need a DB whether it be CB or Saefty. I would prefer a CB, unless Asante stays. Either way, we still do need a DB in there.

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    • #32
      You all need OL help ASAP wow Brady got his ass kicked

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      • #33
        We need offensive line help with three guys going to the Pro Bowl and the offensive line having one average game all year? Really?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Jay View Post

          I'm curious to see if we get any compensation picks for losing Graham or Banta-Cain. That may change things a little as well. That is essentially playing with house money and I could see them dumping some late picks to move up in earlier rounds...
          Why would they? Pats signed a lot of FA and lost a few. I don't expect compensation.

          Thanks to BoneKrusher

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jay View Post
            We need offensive line help with three guys going to the Pro Bowl and the offensive line having one average game all year? Really?
            See Jay, thats the stuff that pisses me off the most. Granted the SB is the biggest of them all, but to be honest, it is one game out 19 that they played, and they had that ONE game which they underperformed. Everyone jumps on NE now, saying BRady is a top 15 QB at best, the OL is garbage and so on...please, lol, this stupidity makes me laugh.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Handel View Post
              Why would they? Pats signed a lot of FA and lost a few. I don't expect compensation.
              They did sign two big ones, but who knows...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Billingsley26 View Post
                See Jay, thats the stuff that pisses me off the most. Granted the SB is the biggest of them all, but to be honest, it is one game out 19 that they played, and they had that ONE game which they underperformed. Everyone jumps on NE now, saying BRady is a top 15 QB at best, the OL is garbage and so on...please, lol, this stupidity makes me laugh.
                That's just the reactionary nature of the NFL fan. People are laughing at the Patriots, but unless they are Giants fans, their team watched the Super Bowl on TV like you and me, so I don't put much stock into it. Brady played the game clearly hurt. What can you do?

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                • #38
                  I second the Seymour move. He is under delivering on his contract. He is backed up by a true pro and the drop off would be minimal. His stock will only continue to drop. Too bad, trades don't happen much in the NFL.

                  How is this for a possibility. Seymour to Miami and the big tuna for Jason Taylor and a two ? You are mainly looking to get out from under the contract, you get a pass rusher that you need ( can someone tell me where the Pro Colvin stuff is coming from ? He has done little to nothing sack-wise and is Terrible setting the edge in run protection), and another earlly round pick to rebuild with or utilize to move up for a targeted player. Tuna wants those big bodies.....

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                  • #39
                    I am indifferent. I wonder if they would even consider something outside the box like trading Seymour. The way I see it, they will be in a position to get any one of these four: Glen Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, Chris Long and Vernon Gholston, whereas 7 is way too early for a corner. But 12-22 is much better territory for one like Jenkins, McKlevin, Rogers-Cromartie or Talib. If the Pats can get a first and maybe a second the in 2009 for Seymour, they take one of the DL early and a corner mid first and then go LB 2nd or 3rd.

                    Asante Samuel is the key to the defense. They are going to lose Eugene Wilson and Randall G.ay, there is no doubt about it. Who is our fourth corner right now? Willie Andrews? He's gone too. Asante HAS to come back. DLine has depth and the ability to get more.

                    It's unfortunate, but he's the guy that needs to move. They can have five picks in the first three rounds and go D, D, D, D, D and let these guys develop together. But that's just me...

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                    • #40
                      in the second would you take Antoine Cason, Justin King, or Brandon Flowers?

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                      • #41
                        Cason no doubt. Production matters greatly to BB. If you have produced but draftniks are knocking your triangle numbers, he is more apt to take you than the kid (King) who has all the upside and potential to be a hall of famer. If you have not produced you have no shot of getting picked early here and given valuable cap $$

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