Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Free Agency/Trade Market

Collapse
This is a sticky topic.
X
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #76
    I'm skeptical of how well Peppers would translate to OLB. Plus it would be a lot to give up. A bit too much of a gamble for my tastes IMO.

    R.I.P. Junior Seau

    Comment


    • #77
      I think he could make the transition. One of our OLB's almost exclusively rushes the passer every play anyways, so his time in coverage could be limited in that regard. He is a physical specimen and a great athlete so I think he could make the transition. I do agree that the price may be too high, but if we give up one of the 2nds, or maybe even the first, that is a need we would probably have drafted anyways, so why not take Peppers?
      Patriots, Red Sox, Celtics, Bruins, Texas Longhorns

      Comment


      • #78
        It would probably cost us our 1st rder but I'd be okay with that.
        He's freakishly athletic. He wants to go 3-4. Larry English would be trying to make the same transition.
        I say I rather take the chance of Peppers over anyone we draft.


        All talk aside... as much as I'd like to see Peppers in a Pats uniform
        there's no way we land him. I just can't see it happening.
        -Boston Red Sox-New England Patriots-Boston Celtics-

        Comment


        • #79
          Originally posted by ESPN Rumors
          Cassel trade setting Pats up for Peppers?

          Julius Peppers | Panthers | Interested: Patriots?

          With one big weekend trade, the New England Patriots went from being a team struggling to fit under the salary cap to one that has some space to play with. The Matt Cassel trade returned a second-round draft pick, but it also may have set the Pats up to bring in an even bigger prize this offseason, Carolina Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers.
          The Boston Herald speculates that in clearing Cassel's monster salary off of their roster, the Patriots - who may be the "mystery AFC team" that was amongst the four teams listed by Peppers as acceptable destinations in a trade - will now make a strong move to inject some youth into their defensive scheme with perennial Pro Bowler Peppers.

          While the North Carolina alum will likely draw a huge compensation package in return, Peppers would be a dominant component of the Patriots' 3-4 scheme, and a player of his caliber is not often available. Peppers finished 2008 with 51 tackles and 14.5 sacks, the latter of which was good for a tie for fifth in the NFL.
          Just saw this on espn...
          -Boston Red Sox-New England Patriots-Boston Celtics-

          Comment


          • #80
            Eh. It might be a stupid reason, but Peppers is 6'7 280+. There hasn't been a guy like that playing OLB in a 3-4 yet. I'll buy it when I see it.

            R.I.P. Junior Seau

            Comment


            • #81
              Adalius Thomas is 270+
              Plus, Peppers is just a ****** freak
              I don't think there's anything he can't do
              I believe it
              -Boston Red Sox-New England Patriots-Boston Celtics-

              Comment


              • #82
                Yeah, I'll take the chance on Peppers for 23. A number 2 would be even better.

                Sig img shamelessly stolen from teh interwebs

                Comment


                • #83
                  Any rumors on Dre Bly? I can't even find info on which teams he's talking to after being cut by Denver. He seems like the type of old vet BB tends to favor. He could be a nice stop gap/insurance policy for a year or two while we develop the young CBs.

                  Sig img shamelessly stolen from teh interwebs

                  Comment


                  • #84
                    Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
                    Eh. It might be a stupid reason, but Peppers is 6'7 280+. There hasn't been a guy like that playing OLB in a 3-4 yet. I'll buy it when I see it.
                    Peppers is a different breed though, he is a freak in the purest form. His height does scare me a little but he is only one inch taller than McGinnest and a lot more athletic.

                    The height issue scares a lot of 3-4 teams because they think they will be too stiff to drop back and coverage and will not be able to get under the OT's pads. Peppers has showed he can drop back into coverage and make plays in a 4-3, I think he would be super in coverage when he was dropped back. As far as getting under the pads, Peppers has freakishly long arms that would help him immensely coming at an OT. Plus Pep is ridiculously quick off the line. Ordinarily, I would not want a guy over 6-6 in our defense (unless they are a DE like Seymour) but Peppers is in his own class when it comes to ability matched only by Mario Williams in my opinion. Mathias Kiwanuka has a ton of 3-4 potential as a taller DE/OLB, but other than that I don't see too many guys who can do it.

                    Comment


                    • #85
                      He has looked EXCELLENT in coverage when he's been asked to drop back on zone blitzes, but I question how fluid he'll be on a consistent basis. Dropping back once or twice and and beating your man to the spot and using your height is one thing. Moving laterally on 20+ plays a game is another thing entirely. He's far and away one of the best athletes in the game right now and is the original freak of nature defensive end, but he's such an idyllic defensive end that he might not make such a good fit at OLB. Once again, could be the best move ever, but I'll believe Peppers can play 3-4 OLB when I see it.

                      R.I.P. Junior Seau

                      Comment


                      • #86
                        Come on guys. Comments like "i'd take him for #23 or one of our seconds", are why other teams fans hate us. It would take atleast our first, one of the seconds and something else to get him. Don't get me wrong, I would do it. But if anyone truly thinks he can be had on the cheap, guess again.

                        Comment


                        • #87
                          It's a statement of value. If he cost a 1st & 2nd or more I would rather not see it happen. I'm not saying Peppers is not worth more than that, I'm saying I don't want the pats to give up more than that in a trade. A draftee @23 should suffice, so why give up a potential S, CB or whatever the 2nd round pick would yield?

                          The is very similar to what Chiefs fans said about Cassel. I don't hate any of them for saying so, why should it be any different?

                          People hate the Patriots organization b/c they win. All the other stuff is just fuel for the fire and "evidence" that supports their theories.

                          Sig img shamelessly stolen from teh interwebs

                          Comment


                          • #88
                            Originally posted by luckyjackaubrey View Post
                            Come on guys. Comments like "i'd take him for #23 or one of our seconds", are why other teams fans hate us. It would take atleast our first, one of the seconds and something else to get him. Don't get me wrong, I would do it. But if anyone truly thinks he can be had on the cheap, guess again.
                            It's not really possible to say what it would take to get him.

                            If NC can't keep him and no one else wants to pay his salary, then he may be very cheap. NE didn't want to keep Cassel, so he went for a 2nd instead of much more. NC doesn't want to keep Peppers as he costs them 17M. They may pay someone to take him off their hands if it gets bad enough for them.

                            Comment


                            • #89
                              The cost is too great. If we can get him for our first rounder, maybe a go...But I doubt that's all it would take. Just doesn't make much sense overall to me.

                              R.I.P. Junior Seau

                              Comment


                              • #90
                                I think I'd be ok w/a 1st/3rd. Not sure that would even be enough, but I agree w/Hannah that 'value' is all relative.

                                Considering the amount of money he would make on top of the draft picks needed to get him, I really don't like any deal requiring a 1st & 2nd.

                                Sig img shamelessly stolen from teh interwebs

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X

                                Debug Information