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  • so who are the pats cb's?

    now that hobbs is gone?

  • #2
    Springs, Wilhite, Bodden, Butler, Mike Richardson, Terrence Wheatley

    #MoncriefArmy

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    • #3
      springs and bodden starting?

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      • #4
        I really don't get this trade at all.

        Hobbs (our #1 corner last year) for a late round Guard.

        Considering Wheatley and Shawn Springs both have a history of injuries.... I don't like this trade at all. Hobbs is at worst, a very good nickel and top notch kick returner who couldve contributed to a SuperBowl run.

        This Guard we drafted won't contribute at all. I understand "the future" and all, but what about WINNING NOW

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        • #5
          It was for the salary hobbs was asking for. He wanted to get paid like a #1 corner and he isnt.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wo_oT88 View Post
            It was for the salary hobbs was asking for. He wanted to get paid like a #1 corner and he isnt.
            We wouldve still had him for this year atleast... and considering we are Super Bowl contenders THIS year, it doesnt make sense to get rid of your best returner and lose depth at CB where you have two players with bad histories of being injured.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by HellonEarth84 View Post
              We wouldve still had him for this year atleast... and considering we are Super Bowl contenders THIS year, it doesnt make sense to get rid of your best returner and lose depth at CB where you have two players with bad histories of being injured.
              Yea but overall we upgraded the secondary significantly in the offseason which made Hobbs expendable. I assume both Springs and Bodden will be the day one starters and if none of Wheatley, Wilhitie or Butler where able to nail down the nickel slot then that's bad drafting. As for the deal, two fifths for Ellis Hobbs is a pretty good deal no matter who it was spent on


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              • #8
                Hobbs is one of the best Kick returners in the league, and a solid #2 CB...top notch nickel.

                I wouldve kept him for the year atleast. Guards are dime a dozen. We couldve drafted a Guard next year.

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                • #9
                  I wouldn't call Hobbs one of the best kick returners in the league. He's pretty good, but not amazing. Tate will be even better.

                  I really don't like that trade either, but I think it was sort of necessary. Hobbs was part of a pretty terrible pass defense last year and doesn't really fit in our new look defense. I would prefer a combination of a healthy Springs/Bodden/Butler as our starting three to playing Hobbs anywhere. It's a cap move, mostly. The only thing that really bites about it is that we SHOULD have been able to get a little bit more than 5th rounders.

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                  • #10
                    I completely agree with HellonEarth84 on this one. Hobbs has the most experience in the system, is our best return guy, and was not scheduled to make a ton of money this year. I think all 5 of the other DBs would beat him out for playing time, but when was the last time we finished a season without at least one DB on IR?

                    Trading an experienced CB w/good KR skills for an OG who may not even make the roster is dumb. The guys left on the roster are all question marks right now.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FlyingElvis View Post
                      I completely agree with HellonEarth84 on this one. Hobbs has the most experience in the system, is our best return guy, and was not scheduled to make a ton of money this year. I think all 5 of the other DBs would beat him out for playing time, but when was the last time we finished a season without at least one DB on IR?

                      Trading an experienced CB w/good KR skills for an OG who may not even make the roster is dumb. The guys left on the roster are all question marks right now.
                      The thing with this is Hobbs was due to make 2.545 mill(I think) next year and he would likely be at best the dime CB and kick returner. Now Hobbs was good returning kicks but not enough to keep him on the roster at that price.


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                      • #12
                        Plus he wanted even more money. I'm not saying anything in regards to the trade, but Hobbs was awfully cocky and probably thought he was a lot better than he actually was.

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                        • #13
                          2-point-anything million is not much. If he was going to hold out or pull some BS move about it that's one thing, but on the surface of it I just don't like it. Especially since Tate is expected to spend the year in rehab and potentially PUP/IR for the 09 season so he's not likely take over KR duties. Faulk & Welker at KR, I guess.

                          It's not that big a deal. I just don't see any sense in the move. I have visions . . . of December and January phone calls to the stand-by, mighty might, old men DBs . . .

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
                            I wouldn't call Hobbs one of the best kick returners in the league. He's pretty good, but not amazing. Tate will be even better.
                            How can you even say that? He might not be a threat to take it to the house every time but he consistently gets 25+ yards and starting at the 30+ yard line every drive is more important than a couple TDs a year.

                            http://www.pro-football-reference.co...ret_active.htm

                            Definitely not one of the best

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mix View Post
                              How can you even say that? He might not be a threat to take it to the house every time but he consistently gets 25+ yards and starting at the 30+ yard line every drive is more important than a couple TDs a year.

                              http://www.pro-football-reference.co...ret_active.htm

                              Definitely not one of the best
                              Hobbs never scared other teams the way a Justin Miller, Devin Hester, or Josh Cribbs did. He was really good at getting it out past the twenty but he very rarely takes it into opposing territory. Tate has a chance to be that caliber of a return man.

                              I don't know. I wouldn't call Hobbs an elite returner. If you're going by pure averaged yardage, then yeah. I never really thought of him that way though.

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