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  • #31
    first pick of the second has officially been clinched for the pats :)

    Thanks to BoneKrusher for this amazing sig!

    Go Gators/Pats/Celts/Red Sox!

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    • #32
      Sleeper alert; Thomas Keiser declared. I really liked him last year with his hand on the ground, but he had an adjustment year playing LB in Stanford's new scheme. He also dealt with some injuries. At 6'5 244 pounds, he has the type of size we look for in a OLB. He actually lost a lot of weight to play LB this year and looked much better close to 260 last year. With a good program, he could get up to that weight by this time next year and hopefully stay in good shape and retain the quickness he gained by playing 15 pounds lighter. Defiantly a buy low type of guy who has familiarity with playing in an NFL style system and program. Smart, high character guy like most Stanford player too. Will likely be available in the 4th or 5th round, but could rise a bit with good offseason workouts and depending on how he looks in drills.


      Also; looking at the center class, I'm not sure the guy we're looking for exists this year. The guy we need is pretty rare, actually. Given our emphasis on pulling, getting to the second level, and being light on your feet, I'm not sure there's anyone who can do all that and be a significant upgrade over Koppen in terms of dealing with NT's. Pouncey can do all that and be a strong interior presence, but his issues with snapping are well documented. Wisniewski is inconsistent with his initial punch and looks like he could be bull rushed a bit by bigger guys at the next level. O'Dowd is a guy I really like in terms of strength, but his injury history is something to be concerned about and he has some technical issues of his own.
      Last edited by ElectricEye; 01-08-2011, 12:46 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
        Sleeper alert; Thomas Keiser declared. I really liked him last year with his hand on the ground, but he had an adjustment year playing LB in Stanford's new scheme. He also dealt with some injuries. At 6'5 244 pounds, he has the type of size we look for in a OLB. He actually lost a lot of weight to play LB this year and looked much better close to 260 last year. With a good program, he could get up to that weight by this time next year and hopefully stay in good shape and retain the quickness he gained by playing 15 pounds lighter. Defiantly a buy low type of guy who has familiarity with playing in an NFL style system and program. Smart, high character guy like most Stanford player too. Will likely be available in the 4th or 5th round, but could rise a bit with good offseason workouts and depending on how he looks in drills.


        Also; looking at the center class, I'm not sure the guy we're looking for exists this year. The guy we need is pretty rare, actually. Given our emphasis on pulling, getting to the second level, and being light on your feet, I'm not sure there's anyone who can do all that and be a significant upgrade over Koppen in terms of dealing with NT's. Pouncey can do all that and be a strong interior presence, but his issues with snapping are well documented. Wisniewski is inconsistent with his initial punch and looks like he could be bull rushed a bit by bigger guys at the next level. O'Dowd is a guy I really like in terms of strength, but his injury history is something to be concerned about and he has some technical issues of his own.
        Damn you EE, I just edited my sig! ****, I'm too lazy to do it again. I really like Keiser but I thought he was only a sophomore for some reason. Also, he looks bigger than 244 lbs to me. Maybe I confused with their LB Skov, who also looks like a good prospect. On the matter of the centers, I agree. But I'd still take Wisniewski over Koppen right now. I've been critical of Koppen since the 2008 season, and even though he's played fine this year I want a new center. But I'm ready to let BB break my heart as he does every april.

        Originally posted by ElectricEye
        I'm a whiny little kunt. Feel sorry for me as I go masturbate to a picture of my mom dressed as a teletubby.

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        • #34
          i honestly think Pouncey will be looked at very hard by the patriots. he has documented versatility, which is HUGE, on our line, and can play G or C.... Pouncey does do everything we ask for, and does it very well. Remember, he has only been playing C for a year, and his bad snapping can be fixed once he starts working with Dante. I think we are all overlooking Pouncey. If you ask me, hes a slam dunk, and its not just that im a Gators fan. Watch the PennSt-Florida game. He was dominant, and he looked like a Pats OL pancaking people and leading the way on screens.

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          • #35
            I like Pouncey a lot....pending his ability to stick at center. He's a guy I could see gathering some late momentum in the post season.

            R.I.P. Junior Seau

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            • #36
              If Rodney Hudson can put on 15-20 lbs without losing his athleticism, pick 32/33 will be an easy one to predict: Rodney Hudson, OL, Florida State.

              Hudson is the most technically sound OL to come out of college in years. If he had Mike Pouncey's body, he'd be a top 15 lock and it wouldn't blow me away to see him in the top 10. Sadly, he's had weight conditioning issues and some minor injury concerns, not to mention his relatively small build (6-2, 285).

              He's an ideal ZBS G/C prospect who could easily replace any of our interior OL.
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              • #37
                Pouncey's shotgun abilities scare me. He needs to step his snapping ability if he wants to start
                If Hudson shows up with more weight and still produces well at the combine drills, then I'd like him.
                ...but so will 31 other teams as well
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                • #38
                  As much as Patriots fans won't want to hear it (if he puts on the weight and still performs the drills), he would be the 17th overall pick if he is available.

                  edit: He fits all of the Patriots requirements for a first round pick if he receives the first round grade (his size may hold him back). Pouncey is a work in progress at snapping the ball and he's not the best pass protector. He will likely receive a late first round grade or a 2nd round one.
                  Last edited by descendency; 01-14-2011, 08:22 PM.
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                  • #39
                    Who? Hudson or Pouncey? Because both of those would be significant reaches.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
                      Who? Hudson or Pouncey? Because both of those would be significant reaches.
                      Hudson with some extra weight.
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                      • #41
                        I think the question to ask every time is if he's truly better than Koppen. We shouldn't be looking for a similar player who is younger, but someone who can handle the large NT's who currently dominate the AFC East. I know Hudson gets fantastic leverage and is strong for his size. Heck, I'm even confident he can get up to 290+ before the draft...but can he stick in the AFC East? I'm not sure. The value at 17 is pretty horrible too.

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                        • #42
                          I give in. **** OLB, we need a DE. **** my life...

                          Originally posted by ElectricEye
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Razor View Post
                            I give in. **** OLB, we need a DE. **** my life...
                            Yep we need some depth on line, DE is a huge need. I bet Mankins walks still as well after this game which leaves some O-line issues.


                            Originally posted by WMD
                            Jesse realizing Walt was Santa Claus could really shake things up.
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                            I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

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                            • #44
                              What do you guys think of Marcus Cannon in the first?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by diabsoule View Post
                                What do you guys think of Marcus Cannon in the first?
                                There are better players at that position for the system.
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