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  • Eh I am not upset with McCourty, coverage for the most part was fine, FLacco had all day to throw it.

    Now the play calling and the woodhead plays were what pissed me off the most.


    Originally posted by WMD
    Jesse realizing Walt was Santa Claus could really shake things up.
    Originally posted by gpngc
    I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

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    • Originally posted by Jvig43 View Post
      Eh I am not upset with McCourty, coverage for the most part was fine, FLacco had all day to throw it.

      Now the play calling and the woodhead plays were what pissed me off the most.
      He has to make that 2nd interception, has to. He played well for awhile, but he folded like a lawn chair in the 2nd half.

      Still Woodhead's new found emphasis in our offense is killing us. We're so productive in every other area besides when we give him touches. Throw it to freaking Gronk. Good things happen, I don't know why this is so hard.

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      • Don't know what to say... That game was brutal to watch.
        I will say that McCourty played well but his two biggest mistakes were game changers though. (dropped INT, PI)
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        • There is a fundamental flaw with this team in terms of finishing games out. We've found every way to lose for the most part recently, and the only games we win at the are when other teams **** the bed. Brady failing to read those all out blitzes, McCourty dropping interceptions, Danny F****** Woodhead.

          It's a big problem which has killed the Pats over their last 4 games.

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            • Originally posted by cmarq83 View Post
              He has to make that 2nd interception, has to. He played well for awhile, but he folded like a lawn chair in the 2nd half.

              Still Woodhead's new found emphasis in our offense is killing us. We're so productive in every other area besides when we give him touches. Throw it to freaking Gronk. Good things happen, I don't know why this is so hard.
              I don't think the Woodhead stuff is killing the offense. He's more effective as a receiver, so they used him more to disguise what they were doing. They weren't going to run much against the Ravens. Why have an inferior pass catcher in the backfield over Woodhead?

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              • Then Kyle Love posts in agreement... Lots of fines for the Pats coming.

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                • Originally posted by cmarq83 View Post
                  He has to make that 2nd interception, has to. He played well for awhile, but he folded like a lawn chair in the 2nd half.

                  Still Woodhead's new found emphasis in our offense is killing us. We're so productive in every other area besides when we give him touches. Throw it to freaking Gronk. Good things happen, I don't know why this is so hard.
                  Originally posted by Nalej View Post
                  Don't know what to say... That game was brutal to watch.
                  I will say that McCourty played well but his two biggest mistakes were game changers though. (dropped INT, PI)
                  Originally posted by cmarq83 View Post
                  There is a fundamental flaw with this team in terms of finishing games out. We've found every way to lose for the most part recently, and the only games we win at the are when other teams **** the bed. Brady failing to read those all out blitzes, McCourty dropping interceptions, Danny F****** Woodhead.

                  It's a big problem which has killed the Pats over their last 4 games.
                  I echo these sentiments. "Back in the day" one of the hallmarks of this team was finishing games in the fourth quarter. Now it feels to me as if no lead is too big. The referring in last night's game is Exhibit 1A why the lockout has to end, but I wouldn't pin this loss on that as both teams were victims. I know we've been spoiled as fans, but so far this year this has not been an enjoyable team to watch. So many critical errors, lack of execution, puzzling play calling (at one point late in the game Gronk had only been targeted twice. Really? Why?)

                  Sorry to *****.

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                  • The Woodhead plays were, without question drive killing plays virtually everytime we ******* called them. He got killed behind the los almost every single time we gave it to him.

                    For whatever reason we decided not to use two of our better weapons in Ridley and Gronk. Get McDaniels the **** out of here.


                    Originally posted by WMD
                    Jesse realizing Walt was Santa Claus could really shake things up.
                    Originally posted by gpngc
                    I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

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                    • That was a horrible display of defense last night. I simply didn't like the game plan defensively. It has always been a trait of Bill Belichick defenses that they take away the other teams number 1 option, see Chris Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald.

                      Last night was awful. I could live with Torrey Smith putting up numbers if Rice was limited. Likewise I could live with Rice putting up 100 if Smith did nothing. But for both to go off was a killer.

                      Offensively, aside from some ridiculous play calls I thought they looked very good. It has been a long time since I have seen Brady throw to the sideline as much as he did to Lloyd and he just ate up 1 on 1 coverage.

                      My biggest issue on offense is this stat line - 2 for 21 on 3 targets. That' Gronk. I don't care who the **** is covering him or how badly he is getting mugged downfield by Ray Lewis, throw him the ******* ball more than 3 times, he is the best offensive player outside of Brady.

                      They had chances to win this one comfortably. The Edelman drop in the first which forced them to settle for a field goal, a horrendous play call that resulted in a 3 yard loss in the red zone to Woodhead, Brady not seeing the blitz coming on second down on their last drive etc

                      The Pats let this one slip. It's way too easy to rip on the "refs", but I am going to anyway

                      In all fairness they were bad to both sides, however the big calls all went against New England.

                      Edelman for pass interference when Cary Williams is all over him and didn't even turn around?
                      Next play Cary Williams took 3 shots to Edelman's face on the opposite side of the field to the ball. Pretty sure that's a personal foul.
                      Ed Reed with a hit to a defenseless WR when he hit Edelman in the head o the TD drop. Wold have set the Pats up at the goal line when they settled for a field goal.
                      Pass interference on Mayo after a 3rd down stop. I seen absolutely nothing on that.
                      Holding call against McCourty when Torrey Smith did his best soccer impression.
                      Absolutely ridiculous holding call against Spikes to negate a Chandler Jones sack.
                      Missed holding call on Michael Oher against Ninkovich
                      Missed holding call on Ray Lewis when he clotheslined Danny Woodhead coming out of the backfield.
                      Missed holding call on Ray Lewis when he pulled Gronk to the turf.

                      Pretty sure that's all of them, so yeah...only 9 horrible calls went against the Pats. Oh yeah, the field goal wasn't good!!!!!!


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                      • The FG was good, it was close but it was certainly good. This team needs to learn how to put games away. Its plagued us for several seasons now that we get up and than the good teams make a come back and all too often the defense shits the bed and all of a sudden we can't make a first down.


                        Originally posted by WMD
                        Jesse realizing Walt was Santa Claus could really shake things up.
                        Originally posted by gpngc
                        I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

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                        • Originally posted by Jvig43 View Post
                          The FG was good, it was close but it was certainly good. This team needs to learn how to put games away. Its plagued us for several seasons now that we get up and than the good teams make a come back and all too often the defense shits the bed and all of a sudden we can't make a first down.
                          Here's the defense's problem as I see it. Against average to good running teams they can be very good with a seven man front which allows them to run a two deep shell and limit big plays. Against great running teams they need to rotate into cover 1 or cover 3 and bring Chung into the box. This is fine as most teams can't defend Ray Rice with a seven man box. The big issue is any time the Pats played in a cover 2 shell Flacco handed the ball off to Rice. Any time Chung came up to the line of scrimmage Flacco's first read was deep to Torrey Smith. That's a tough matchup combo for any defense, which is why I would have preferred them to play two deep all game and give Rice yards and hope to stop them when it got close. Playing cover 1 man from 30 yards out leaving Torrey Smith singled on Kyle Arrington is a TD more often than not.

                          For as bad as our CBs looked last year and in parts last night, they are really put in bad spots. Unless your Revis, one on one matchups favour the offense. McCourty was actually in great position for most of last night with the exception of the PI call. If they are going to continue in this fashion then they need bigger guys than Kyle Arrington on the boundary to use length to make up an disadvantage.

                          All in all, the defensive line didn't get much going so I think it would have been worth blitzing a few times to at least let Flacco know he can't stand all day. But you have to give the guy credit, he played a great game and managaed it well too. After the first quarter he actually took what the defense gave him


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                          • The problem last night is that the coaching staff didn't make the adjustment the Ravens did.

                            Once the officials basically stopped calling offensive holding, you must blitz. The Ravens were more aggressive and won the game because of it. NE tried to play coverage but no one could pressure Flacco, because they were being held. The Ravens fixed that by just overload blitzing (which Brady routinely seemed to miss last night).
                            **** her in da *****!

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                            • This is the toughest loss regular season loss to swallow since the 4th and 2 game. Looking back it's just plain absurd that they lost considering how they played for most of the game. They were able to move the ball nearly flawlessly through the air against a very good Ravens defense, but a collection of terrible performances from weird spots lost the game for us. For my own benefit I'm going to assign blame based on who deserves it the most.

                              1) The Front 7
                              Ray Rice was able to take over the game for the Ravens. His success running the football dictated us having to move a safety into the box, and forced us into man to man on the outside. It's really unacceptable for our team, which is one of the few that starts 5 guys primarily because of their prowess against the run, to be unable to compete with just those 7. Wilfork played the worst game of his career and was constantly pushed out of the whole by Yanda. Love was double more than usual, but he should be able to hold against Birk and Harewoood. Jones was held a lot and the Ravens typically ran behind Yanda and Osemele, but he was very average last night. Ninkovich was worthless again.

                              Last night should have been Hightower's and Spike's game. Yes Vontae Leach is the best, but those guys are primarily downhill players. They were both reactive and beaten bad on multiple occasions. I realize that Ray Rice is going to get his against you, but the Pats should have cause some more negative plays. The front 7 is too talented to play like that.

                              2) The Refs
                              We're all aware of the bad calls, but it was the situations that they negated that was even more damaging than the calls themselves. Almost all of the bad calls negated a very positive play for the Pats, and in some cases changed the momentum of the game.

                              The Gronk hold and Edelman PI disrupted a drive that seemed destined for the end zone. Instead of going up 17 and maybe forcing the Ravens to go to the air more often, the Pats settled for a field goal and the Ravens calmly drove down the field to counter for 7.

                              The Mayo hold negated what would have been a 3rd consecutive 3 and out to start the game.

                              The phantom holds on Arrington and McCourty negated 2 would be 3rd and long situations.

                              The bad holding call on Spikes negated a would be sack.

                              That's too much to overcome, plain and simple. I usually don't like to blame the refs, but it was unavoidable after yesterday.

                              3) McCourty
                              I'm one of his harshest critics, but he deserves it after yesterday. That dropped INT is why we haven't won the big one recently. Ty Law would never let that one go, even Asante despite his big stage miss wouldn't have dropped that, nor would Ellis Hobbs. We needed that and he didn't deliver.

                              Joe Flacco really didn't play incredibly well last night. He gift wrapped the ball to us several times last night, we legitimately could have had 4 interceptions last night.

                              Also, on that last drive it was just like last year. Teams test McCourty because he's the easiest to move the ball on. He gave up 51 yards on the GW drive, and flat out failed tackling on Pitta. Just try Dowling out there. It's hard to get worse results than we've been getting from McCourty.

                              4) McDaniels
                              He drew up about 20 plays for Danny Woodhead, but only tries Gronk 3 times. That's inexcusable. We executed so well in every other facet of the game yesterday offensively, but we kept giving it to Danny and he did nothing with those touches, putting us in a bad situation. At least when we had BJGE we could count on at least 3 yards a pop. Danny had 2 decent runs, and either had 2 to negative yards on most of the rest.

                              5) Brady's Blitz Recognition Late in the Game
                              I could see those blitzes coming, but Brady was caught completely unaware. He's not a rookie, audible to shotgun and hit a hot out route. Taking negative plays on the last 2 drives cost us points and the game.

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                              • **** **** **** ****.

                                Revis tore his ACL too early... The Jets might get Jarvis Jones now... :/
                                **** her in da *****!

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