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  • Draft Targets 08

    The Preseason is really boring me and we're lacking some good draft discussion. College season starts tonight so I figured we need a thread to target players we like who fit our system. Then we can "scout" their games and evaluate, fun! Seniors only for now. Here goes my current targets by position:

    OFFENSE

    QB

    Colt Brennan: No explanation necessary, other than how I think he's the best fit for our system of any QB in the draft. Spreads the ball well, makes quick reads and can scramble.

    Matt Flynn: Athletic and impressive in his short experience. Could really breakout, look out for him tonight against Miss St. 6'3 228.

    RB

    Kregg Lumpkin: Great size (6'1 222) and has produced consistently over 3 years. He would be a nice 2nd option to Caddy.

    Chauncey Washington: Similar to Lumpkin, only he has some injury concerns. Could be a steal if he loses time in their backfield.

    Jacob Hester: Good receiving option as a FB, and could replace Alstott as our TB in our heavy package. 6'0 230.

    WR

    DeSean Jackson: I'll break the underclassman rule here. Game-changing speed
    and improving receiver. Would replace Galloway. Could fix return woes as well.

    Andre Caldwell: In-state product has speed, hands and experience. Could play in the slot right away and be an eventual starter. Kick return experience as well.

    Harry Douglas: Underrated deep threat who never stops making plays. Undersized (5'11 170) but has great hands and reminds me of Galloway.

    Maurice Purify: I don't think we need another big target but he's an interesting guy to look at (6'4 220). He was inconsistent as a JUCO transfer last year but still managed to make some big plays.

    There's a million other solid WR prospects this year but I'm lazy so just keep your eyes open.

    TE

    Anthony Hill: Massive (6'6 265) and productive TE. Athleticism is a concern but he plays in a TE-happy offense and is a better prospect than TJ Williams IMO.

    OT

    We seem to be going after size and more size on the line, so King Dunlap is a guy to look out for (6'9 325). He's the anchor of Auburn's line and could surprise with his athleticism, which is underrated at this point.

    OG

    Andrew Bain: My homer pick of the day. Bain is massive at 6'3 330+ and has athleticism to boot. He squats 700 lbs too.

    C

    Fernando Velasco. At 6'4 328, he could provide depth anywhere in the interior. Saw action his entire career and was the team MIP last year, improving greatly as a Junior.

    I will add more as the season passes by and look for defense soon as well.

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    I always have to have the Bucs drafting one USF each year, so...

    CB: Mike Jenkins - Shutdown corner with the size and tackling ability to play in the cover two, Runs about a 4.5. I don't even think Louisville and WVU threw to his Side last year.

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    • #3
      He must run faster than a 4.5. He is the fastest player on USF. Trae Williams is also a decent prospect but doesn't fit our defense that well.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by etk View Post
        He must run faster than a 4.5. He is the fastest player on USF. Trae Williams is also a decent prospect but doesn't fit our defense that well.
        He ran 4.5 at his high school, I dunno what he runs now. I don't think he's the fastest player at USF, Trae has to be faster than him.

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        • #5
          According to my sources (magazine) he is.

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          • #6
            i would rather have Brandon Flowers

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            • #7
              Originally posted by zCaddyz View Post
              i would rather have Brandon Flowers
              Obviously, but why make this comment...

              1) Flowers is a Junior.
              2) He's first round caliber and not all targets here are that kind of caliber.
              3) We're talking about lesser known prospects and you bring in an ACC guy. If you like Brandon Flowers you can reword your comments so you're not undermining the players mentioned.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by etk View Post
                According to my sources (magazine) he is.
                Just checked it out, my bad, Jenkins runs about a 4.37, Williams a 4.4, Jenkins would still fit the cover two though, with his size and tackling ability.

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                • #9
                  where does it say anything bout lesser know players etk

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by zCaddyz View Post
                    where does it say anything bout lesser know players etk
                    The point is that we would all rather have Brandon Flowers, it was unnecessary for you to say that. We're talking about USF prospects and you mention one of the best corners in the nation. He's a great tackler and a great player but will he be available in the 2nd/3rd round? Will he even declare this year?

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                    • #11
                      DEFENSE

                      DE

                      Jameel McClain: Racked up 9.5 sacks last year after switching from LB to DE. He fits the mold we look for in our LDEs and then some...He has the stout build (needs to add to his frame a bit) and is very powerful in engaging blockers at the line. Plays with a motor and has athleticism and pass rush ability as a bonus. Very versatile.

                      Kenny Iwebema: Not as physical as McClain but has a great build and is a productive three year starter. He can rush the passer in a few different ways and makes tackles in pursuit. Could plays either side in our line.

                      Eric Foster of Rutgers is another possibility.

                      DT

                      Andre Fluellen/Paul Griffin. I love both FSU prospects. Fluellen is a three year starter with rare quickness in getting to the backfield. Griffin is more of a physical defensive tackle who can hold up the line at the point of the attack. He needs to bulk up a bit and stay healthy but he could interchange at Nose or Under in our defense.

                      Keilen Dykes. 4 years of starting experience as a NT on a 3-man line. Very disruptive with his use of hands and ability to diagnose plays. Would be a solid
                      replacement for Hovan in the future because he can stuff the run and make tackles at the line.

                      OLB

                      Nick Watkins: No brainer for me. 2 year starter at WLB at Clemson. He's fast and makes plays with desire. Tackling machine who's also solid in zone coverage. Look out for him breaking records this year and making FSU look stupid on Monday.

                      Bo Ruud: Barrett's brother disappointed me last year, getting outshone by his two LB mates, but I still think he has more potential than Barrett. He's a solid linebacker in all aspects of the position and will have a year of strongside experience this year after switching over to replace Bradley.

                      Xavier Adibi fits well too but he really struggles to shed and deal with blockers
                      so I wouldn't want to spend a high pick on him.

                      MLB


                      A run stuffer like Brandon Miller or Rodrick Johnson would be nice for depth. How about Ben Moffit from USF ;)?

                      CB

                      Dejuan Tribble: He racked up another 3 INT game this week, but he might be pigeonholed as this year's Daymeion Hughes. That leaves us to jump on him as a playmaking replacement for Barber.

                      Dwight Lowery: Another huge playmaker that lacks the physical qualities to be a high draft pick. He might struggle adjusting to coverage in the NFL but his tackling ability will give him a chance to start down the road.

                      S

                      Darien Williams: Could get outshone by other safeties at Oklahoma, but I still like him as a solid FS prospect. Roams well in coverage and not afraid to help in run support. Solid but unspectacular.

                      Erick Wicks: Do-it-all safety who can play either side. He spends a lot of plays in the box and would be great in run support (and blitzing), but he can also defend in zone.

                      Please feel free to mention other players, especially those who are lesser known.
                      Last edited by etk; 09-02-2007, 10:20 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by etk View Post
                        How about Ben Moffit from USF ;)?
                        I would love that if we could get him in 3-5th rounds, He's a beast as a tackler but is only average everywhere else. The thing is, A couple of magazines have rated him top 100 and he's going to have a sick statistical year with Nicholas gone to steal his tackles, so we'll see if his stock rises, but I would love that pick.

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                        • #13
                          Team/Draft Needs 2 weeks into the season:

                          1. CB: No youth here. We may have to draft 2 in this year's draft. Signing a good fit is a distinct possibility.
                          2. WR: We will need speed to replace Galloway. A natural burner to stretch the field is essential in our current offense. Harry Douglas or bust is my philosophy ;)
                          3. QB: Garcia looks like the truth right now, but this is the year to groom his replacement assuming McCown & Grads never see the light. Brennan or Ryan in the 2nd would be nice. If not, it might not be worth it.
                          4. DL: Another man to add to our pressure rotation. Either a LDE, NT or UT. I really like our UT rotation right now so the first 2 are more likely.
                          5. OT: Petitgout is enough to get by, for the moment. He can only decline from now so a priority should be placed on drafting/signing someone.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by etk View Post
                            Team/Draft Needs 2 weeks into the season:

                            1. CB: No youth here. We may have to draft 2 in this year's draft. Signing a good fit is a distinct possibility.
                            2. WR: We will need speed to replace Galloway. A natural burner to stretch the field is essential in our current offense. Harry Douglas or bust is my philosophy ;)
                            3. QB: Garcia looks like the truth right now, but this is the year to groom his replacement assuming McCown & Grads never see the light. Brennan or Ryan in the 2nd would be nice. If not, it might not be worth it.
                            4. DL: Another man to add to our pressure rotation. Either a LDE, NT or UT. I really like our UT rotation right now so the first 2 are more likely.
                            5. OT: Petitgout is enough to get by, for the moment. He can only decline from now so a priority should be placed on drafting/signing someone.
                            CB - I agree. We definitely need some youth in the few drafts. I think P-Buc is more than capable of manning the #2 spot but him being the number #1 corner is a little optimistic.

                            WR - What would we do without Joey Galloway?

                            QB - If the Buc's continue to win a top flight QB will be out of range and I am definitely not a fan of a mid first round guy like Henne so Round 2 or 3 will probably be the place to draft our next QB.

                            DL - We obviously need a future LE but this could perhaps wait till Day 2 or the 09 draft. Our UT rotation has been decent, but I still think it could use an upgrade. If we have a chance at Dorsey we jump all over it.

                            OT - Like you said, Petitgout is a fine stop gap solution but we need a developmental guy for the future. I am however intrigued as to the play of Donald Penn.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 24cadillac24 View Post
                              WR - What would we do without Joey Galloway?

                              QB - If the Buc's continue to win a top flight QB will be out of range and I am definitely not a fan of a mid first round guy like Henne so Round 2 or 3 will probably be the place to draft our next QB.

                              DL - We obviously need a future LE but this could perhaps wait till Day 2 or the 09 draft. Our UT rotation has been decent, but I still think it could use an upgrade. If we have a chance at Dorsey we jump all over it.

                              OT - Like you said, Petitgout is a fine stop gap solution but we need a developmental guy for the future. I am however intrigued as to the play of Donald Penn.
                              Joey G is the truth. We have 52 guys making up one half of our team, and Joey makes up the other. He's our better half.

                              Henne is DEFINITELY not a mid-first candidate. That would fall to Matt Ryan & Colt Brennan, both of which have enough talent and production to warrant heavy consideration.

                              I love Greg Spires more than almost anyone, but Calais Campbell is my #1 guy on the "Bucs board". I'll elaborate another time as to why, but rest assured he would be a monster for us in many different ways. If he's unavailable, I'm still holding onto Jameel McClain as a major steal candidate. Think Elvis Dumervil but better at stopping the run and worse at pass rushing. I really like the idea of a UT rotation. Elite UTs don't grow on trees and the position produces a plethora of busts. Even if we did find the next Sapp, there would still be the issue of stamina. It's very difficult to play consistently at the position over the course of a full game. A rotation saves money and stamina, as well as creating intense competition for PT. The offensive line gets different looks too as they have to deal with different skillsets. Haye, Peterson & Carter all look like keepers so far. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

                              OT is not my favorite option, but it deserves consideration. There may be a scenario where the top prospects like Campbell, Dorsey, QBs, WRs etc. are all gone. That's when Barry Richardson would be the pick.

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