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  • #46
    I dont think we are going to sign anyone else. I think right now I have my heart set on a DE (English) or a WR (Harvin, Maclin, Nicks). But I definitley think we should go defense.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Me Likey Rookies View Post
      I dont think we are going to sign anyone else. I think right now I have my heart set on a DE (English) or a WR (Harvin, Maclin, Nicks). But I definitley think we should go defense.
      At the moment I am leaning towards either a corner, defensive lineman or a quarterback. We all know about the corner backs who might be available and I think they could all definitely help. Corner is however the one position I could see us making a move for in free agency looking for a nickel/dime backer. As far as QB goes, if Freeman was there I would like him on our team. I know the majority of Bucs fans don't, but I honestly don't care what everyone else wants. I find it relatively hard to project what we will target with the defensive line as far as which sort of players will best fit our scheme, but we definitely need some help.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Me Likey Rookies View Post
        I dont think we are going to sign anyone else. I think right now I have my heart set on a DE (English) or a WR (Harvin, Maclin, Nicks). But I definitley think we should go defense.
        We're not gonna sign a WR??

        Bryant
        Clayton
        Stovall
        Jackson
        Campbell/Hankton, other scrubs
        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by etk View Post
          We're not gonna sign a WR??

          Bryant
          Clayton
          Stovall
          Jackson
          Campbell/Hankton, other scrubs
          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          That makes me :(

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          • #50
            Can Michael Clayton catch more than 40 balls? Can any of those other guys catch more than 10? Can a 3rd/4th rounder really step in and have an immediate impact? Neither Stovall nor Jackson have done as much.

            We need to sign a FA WR. There's absolutely no reason not to. Holt or Harrison would be nice for the short term.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by etk View Post
              Can Michael Clayton catch more than 40 balls? Can any of those other guys catch more than 10? Can a 3rd/4th rounder really step in and have an immediate impact? Neither Stovall nor Jackson have done as much.

              We need to sign a FA WR. There's absolutely no reason not to. Holt or Harrison would be nice for the short term.
              Maybe we should just bring back Chas Gessner (I wonder if I still have my Gessner sig) or promote Paris Warren to #2.

              Sound like good plans to me!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by 24cadillac24 View Post
                Maybe we should just bring back Chas Gessner (I wonder if I still have my Gessner sig) or promote Paris Warren to #2.

                Sound like good plans to me!
                Chas looked like such a stud when I watched him at training camp. He made a sweet one handed catch and looked so smooth running across the field. Too bad he can't play when someone's trying to cover him.

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                • #53
                  I'm probably going to get bashed for it, but I hope that we don't draft a DE with the 1st rounder because I want Selvie next year

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by dabul-master View Post
                    I'm probably going to get bashed for it, but I hope that we don't draft a DE with the 1st rounder because I want Selvie next year
                    We can draft a DE in the 1st and still get Selvie.

                    We don't need to spend a 1st on another edge rusher. We could get Ayers, Jackson or Gilbert. Then next year we could hope for Selvie in the 2nd. I'm a big fan of his but Adams should solidify himself as our top pass rusher this year and White should contribute off the bench. We really don't need any 250-ish pound DEs (Larry English, Aaron Maybin), but Selvie would be too hard to pass up.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by etk View Post
                      We really don't need any 250-ish pound DEs (Larry English, Aaron Maybin), but Selvie would be too hard to pass up.
                      I wouldnt group together English and Maybin like that. There may be only a 6 lb difference in their listed weights but English plays much bigger than Maybin and is solid vs the run. Maybin (and Everette Brown), I cant see playing anything other than 34 olb. English however I think can definitley be a RE in a 43. He also got a 36 on his wonderlic (I know not too important, but damn impressive).
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Me Likey Rookies View Post
                        I wouldnt group together English and Maybin like that. There may be only a 6 lb difference in their listed weights but English plays much bigger than Maybin and is solid vs the run. Maybin (and Everette Brown), I cant see playing anything other than 34 olb. English however I think can definitley be a RE in a 43. He also got a 36 on his wonderlic (I know not too important, but damn impressive).
                        Fair enough. English is worlds better than Maybin against the run and definitely profiles as a RE in a 4-3. I know that, however I group them together because neither fit the profile of what I think we need.

                        So i rephrase: We really don't need any 250-ish pound DEs (Larry English and especially Aaron Maybin).

                        I'm gonna have to disagree on Everette Brown. It's unfair to group him with Maybin. Brown does his best damage off the line as a RDE. He's better suited for that athletically as opposed to standing up where he may be exposed in coverage standing up. Brown (Cody Brown as well) is very good with using his hands and striking the OT. He can hold up against the run (better than Maybin worse than English) and he can be a physical pass rusher if need be.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by etk View Post


                          I'm gonna have to disagree on Everette Brown. It's unfair to group him with Maybin. Brown does his best damage off the line as a RDE. He's better suited for that athletically as opposed to standing up where he may be exposed in coverage standing up. Brown (Cody Brown as well) is very good with using his hands and striking the OT. He can hold up against the run (better than Maybin worse than English) and he can be a physical pass rusher if need be.
                          I hate picking just a few plays to show but watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN1rK8D4o8I and focus in on Brown getting engulfed in the run game most of the time. He will get killed by NFL OT's if he plays DE.
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                          • #58
                            Also etk, I know you are a Tyson Jackson fan, but if he is off the board, who would you like at 19?

                            Also, I think Darius Butler is gaining some steam and is considered a great man cb, I probably should have added him to the poll.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by etk View Post
                              We can draft a DE in the 1st and still get Selvie.

                              We don't need to spend a 1st on another edge rusher. We could get Ayers, Jackson or Gilbert. Then next year we could hope for Selvie in the 2nd. I'm a big fan of his but Adams should solidify himself as our top pass rusher this year and White should contribute off the bench. We really don't need any 250-ish pound DEs (Larry English, Aaron Maybin), but Selvie would be too hard to pass up.
                              I'm glad you see things my way.


                              Honestly, I see us getting some D in the first, followed by a Hakeem Nicks type guy in the 2nd.I'm pretending I don't know the name Josh Freeman as well, since that pick would make me very sad.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Me Likey Rookies View Post
                                I hate picking just a few plays to show but watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN1rK8D4o8I and focus in on Brown getting engulfed in the run game most of the time. He will get killed by NFL OT's if he plays DE.
                                I don't see a problem with that video. Brown shows good use of leverage and pop in the run game. He's 6'2 260 and will have no problem setting the edge in the NFL. With his lack of length he may be a risk to get engulfed if you run right at him, but that doesn't take away from his ability to play RE for a lot of teams.

                                I'm not the only person who thinks his best fit is in a 4-3....most scouts agree.

                                Originally posted by Me Likey Rookies View Post
                                Also etk, I know you are a Tyson Jackson fan, but if he is off the board, who would you like at 19?

                                Also, I think Darius Butler is gaining some steam and is considered a great man cb, I probably should have added him to the poll.
                                I don't have a favorite at 19. If I had to pick I'd probably take Alphonso Smith or Tyson Jackson. I just saw Jackson running drills on NFLN running pro day drills and he's one of the most athletic 295 pounders I've ever seen. You can't overstate the value he would bring to our defensive front.

                                Darius Butler is not a 1st round talent IMO. He's too finesse for our defense anyway.

                                Originally posted by Tampa 2 4 life View Post
                                I'm glad you see things my way.


                                Honestly, I see us getting some D in the first, followed by a Hakeem Nicks type guy in the 2nd.I'm pretending I don't know the name Josh Freeman as well, since that pick would make me very sad.
                                We don't have a 2nd round pick lol. But I agree that D is our likely direction in round 1.

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