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  • #61
    Originally posted by bigbuc View Post
    Ok with no trades coming from the Bucs my dream draft would be.

    1.Ndamukong Suh- Big, strong and fast would give us a great player on the
    D line with him and Roy Miller as our Dt's maybe we won't see NFC South teams run for 200 plus on us anymore.


    2.Brandon Graham- Strong, just a bull of a man. Put him on the strong side and let him shut down the run and get into the Qb's face.

    2.Eric Norwood- Bigger backer than we in Tampa are use to, but fast and can get to the Qb. Put him at the SAM backer spot and let him do his thing.

    3.Alterraun Verner- Love the way this guy plays. Makes tackles in the run game. Been the best cornerback on a very good defense for two years now.
    Prefer McCoy to Suh, but that's just me.

    Graham is great.

    Norwood? What for? We have young LBs already, plus Norwood is not an ideal fit for our defense.

    Verner....since we're talking small Pac-10 corners, gimme Syd'quan Thompson instead. He's a much better athlete and great in run support.

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    • #62
      we better draft suh

      we betta

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      • #63
        also what do you guys think of marty gilyard in the second, he seems p. good

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        • #64
          I was kinda hoping for a bigger receiver, but I'd settle for Gilyard.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by etk View Post
            I was kinda hoping for a bigger receiver, but I'd settle for Gilyard.
            We need another DB more than another WR, IMO. Give Stovall the damn ball.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Tampa 2 4 life View Post
              We need another DB more than another WR, IMO. Give Stovall the damn ball.
              Oh yeah no doubt about that....CB is our #1 need IMO.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by etk View Post
                Oh yeah no doubt about that....CB is our #1 need IMO.
                4 picks in three rounds doesn't hurt though. We can afford a 2nd round receiver and still pick up our other big needs (DE, DT, CB)

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                • #68
                  Guys lets just say we pick 3 and the Rams and the Browns take Suh and McCoy... Who would you want us to draft? Do we take Eric Berry and move him to CB? Can he play CB? Do we go for and guy like Joe Haden who is a CB (ranked 4th overall player on espn) or do we take a guy like Derrick Morgan (who's ranked the 6 on espn)?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by bigbuc View Post
                    Guys lets just say we pick 3 and the Rams and the Browns take Suh and McCoy... Who would you want us to draft? Do we take Eric Berry and move him to CB? Can he play CB? Do we go for and guy like Joe Haden who is a CB (ranked 4th overall player on espn) or do we take a guy like Derrick Morgan (who's ranked the 6 on espn)?
                    We cry ourselfs to sleep...

                    Naah just draft Berry and put him at safety instead of Sabby. Maybe move Tanard to Strong and Berry to Free.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by bigbuc View Post
                      If we get Suh or McCoy in the first round would you guys be pissed if we traded our second rounder for Glenn Dorsey? I know Roy Miller been good but I don't think he could have an impact on a game like Dorsey could if he ever gets to play the 3tech in a one gap system. KC has had talks with other teams about moving him.
                      Id love the move.
                      A second seems steep but we have 2, so i'd offer the Chicago one.
                      Id love a Dorsey/Suh/Miller rotation, even if that does mean one less second round player at WR, DE or CB. Those needs can be addressed in free agency.

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                      • #71
                        1. Suh

                        2a. Use this and our 3rd to trade up in the first to get OLB Rolando McClain

                        2b. DE Brandon Graham or WR Jordan Shipley or WR Danario Alexander

                        3. Traded.

                        I am of the school of thought that we should invest in our defensive front seven early with next year's draft.

                        Suh, McClain and Graham would greatly improve that, IMO.

                        I also agree that a better WR can be had next year with the very talented crop of Juniors to-be.

                        I like our O-line the way it is, but would not be upset at nabbing a LT with one of the first 4 picks next year.

                        Think we can survive with Hayes and Black at OLB for another year, too, since trading up would be a dream scenario.

                        Definately need another CB.

                        Think that Ward is a bust and was a terrible pick up.



                        Would also like to throw Toby Gerhart's name out there as a Alstott ver 2.0. Thoughts?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by etk View Post
                          An outstanding 3 tackle rotation is a nice luxury to have. SEE THE BOLDED WORD. Our team needs help in a lot more areas than DT. We need multiple DBs, we need a pass rushing DE, and we need a WR. Of those 3 positions, the only one we can get away with ignoring is WR. We absolutely need at least 1 good CB and 1 pass rushing RDE. No room for 2 DTs with our first 2 picks. We have no business spending a high pick on a 20-25 snap player when we have pressing needs at other positions.
                          Btw etk from the guy who runs the number one defense in the league

                          "You need those big guys," defensive coordinator Dom Capers said Friday. "You can't ever have enough of 'em."

                          Talking about all four of his Dt's are on the injury report.

                          It's a long season my man... the big guys get beat up.

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                          • #73
                            How hard is it to realise we have about 109172937192783 needs and not just one at DT?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Caddy View Post
                              How hard is it to realise we have about 109172937192783 needs and not just one at DT?
                              Its not hard to see we have a lot of needs Caddy... I know we need a Dt,De,Cb,Wr(maybe two),S(Sabby not getting it). But you can't fix all your needs in one draft, I'm sorry just don't think it works that way. From years of not spending money on free agents and having very poor drafts we have a major lack of talent on this team. Its going to take more than one year to fix it. My school of thought is to make your biggest weakness a area of strength or pick areas on your team you want to be strong at. I myself happen to think that the D line is the weakest part of our team. If you go back and look when we had a poor O line Allen and Gurden made it a point to rebuild it and they did. Drafting O line in the first, second and third rounds for years. I just value D linemen a lot seeing over the years good linebackers and cornerbacks become very avg when there D line is poor. There's a reason the saying in football is " it all starts up front " because the big boys win you games. Also great D linemen don't become free agents very often. You usually have to draft them yourself or pay a high price to get them on your team. So if I were the GM and we had a chance to trade for a top 5 pick in Dorsey thats playing out of position in KC for a second rounder I would do it. Cause like Dom Capers said "You need those big guys," "You can't ever have enough of 'em." and I think he knows a little more about running an NFL defense than anyone on this forum, don't you?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by bigbuc View Post
                                Its not hard to see we have a lot of needs Caddy... I know we need a Dt,De,Cb,Wr(maybe two),S(Sabby not getting it). But you can't fix all your needs in one draft, I'm sorry just don't think it works that way. From years of not spending money on free agents and having very poor drafts we have a major lack of talent on this team. Its going to take more than one year to fix it. My school of thought is to make your biggest weakness a area of strength or pick areas on your team you want to be strong at. I myself happen to think that the D line is the weakest part of our team. If you go back and look when we had a poor O line Allen and Gurden made it a point to rebuild it and they did. Drafting O line in the first, second and third rounds for years. I just value D linemen a lot seeing over the years good linebackers and cornerbacks become very avg when there D line is poor. There's a reason the saying in football is " it all starts up front " because the big boys win you games. Also great D linemen don't become free agents very often. You usually have to draft them yourself or pay a high price to get them on your team. So if I were the GM and we had a chance to trade for a top 5 pick in Dorsey thats playing out of position in KC for a second rounder I would do it. Cause like Dom Capers said "You need those big guys," "You can't ever have enough of 'em." and I think he knows a little more about running an NFL defense than anyone on this forum, don't you?
                                I like this rationale a lot better.

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