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  • Jim Bates should be let go.

    One week it's four pass plays for over 30 yards the next week he get run on for well over 200 yards. This guy was good about ten years ago in miami. Buc's fans are finding out why Den let him go two years ago. There's a reason why he was out of football last year. We might go 1 and 15 this year. Everything that ownership did this offseason has backfired in there face. The only thing that has worked out is the trade for K2. If they want to be a first class football team call your mistake get a new staff in here because Morris looks like Zone did last season, in over his head. Every thing that Morris has done has been wrong... Bates, Jags, zone blocking, not going for it on 4 and 2 at Was at the end of the game. It's crazy we went from back to back Great HC's to this.

  • #2
    Our Run D destroyed any chance we had of winning that game. It was disgusting.

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    • #3
      I hate this two gap stuff. Ruud over runs so many plays because he has to fill so many gaps. What I loved about Kiffen was everyone had a gap, just one. It let everyone on the D to play fast... Not read and react, just react. Our D plays slow. Teams can do whatever they want on us. It's been Qb's going for 300 on us or Rb's running for 150 plus. I think that our first two picks should be on the front 7. If not both second rounders.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bigbuc View Post
        I hate this two gap stuff. Ruud over runs so many plays because he has to fill so many gaps. What I loved about Kiffen was everyone had a gap, just one. It let everyone on the D to play fast... Not read and react, just react. Our D plays slow. Teams can do whatever they want on us. It's been Qb's going for 300 on us or Rb's running for 150 plus. I think that our first two picks should be on the front 7. If not both second rounders.
        I don't completely agree with 2 picks on the front 7 unless you are referring to DE and DT. Linebacker is not a concern at the moment considering the horrendous play we are getting in other defensive areas/pending retirement of Ronde.

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        • #5
          When you take over a team with a terrible D-line and want to change the system requiring bigger ones you need to get bodies. They don't have to be very good when your current ones are awful for the system you want. Thats on Morris too.

          2K has looked good so far. My big concern was how long would his knee hold up, won't know that for a while.

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          • #6
            I think our dline is the worst in the Nfl. The first two picks we should go to the Dline, only way we go backer with one of those is if he's a pass rusher backer. Wouldn't mind then. But that would only happen if we start to mix in some 3/4 looks. And that we don't know till we get a DC. Cause I'm going to take a shot and say. There's no way Bates will be back next year.

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            • #7
              Bates cannot be fired until after the season, because we'd run the risk of looking like a franchise in complete turmoil...... and we'd have zero chance at signing any free agents..... our own, or from other teams.


              So.... unfortunately, we're stuck with the staff as it is until the season ends.

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              • #8
                The last time he coached a good defense was 2003. His defenses have been horrible since.
                Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.

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                • #9
                  I agree.


                  But the fact remains that we can't make a move unless we want to scare talent away for a good long time.



                  And irregardless of who is on the sidelines, the Bucs FO and scouting department has to do a better job of getting talented players on the field for the coaches. We've really sucked at that for awhile...... and we won't get better until we get better scouting.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DeadEagle View Post
                    Bates cannot be fired until after the season, because we'd run the risk of looking like a franchise in complete turmoil...... and we'd have zero chance at signing any free agents..... our own, or from other teams.


                    So.... unfortunately, we're stuck with the staff as it is until the season ends.
                    So then what does it mean when we fired a coordinator BEFORE the season?

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