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  • Your Top 5 at DT, DE, OLB and MLB

    Just wanted to see what everyone's opinions where in regards to the top 5 prospects at each front 7 position.

    Here's mine:

    DT

    Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska (6'4, 300)

    Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma (6'4, 295) RS Junior

    Authur Jones, Syracuse (6'4, 293)

    Jared Odrick, Penn St. (6'5, 296)

    Terrance Cody, Alabama (6'5, 365)


    DE

    Carlos Dunlap, Florida (6'6, 290) Junior has yet to declare

    Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech (6'4, 272) Junior has yet to declare

    Everson Griffin, Southern Cal (6'3, 265) Junior

    Corey Wootton, Northwestern (6'6, 280)

    Greg Hardy, Mississippi (6'4, 265)


    OLB

    Sergio Kindle, Texas (6'4, 255) DE/OLB Hybrid

    Sean Witherspoon, Missouri (6'2, 245)

    Eric Norwood, South Carolina (6'1, 252) DE/OLB Hybrid

    Jerry Hughes, TCU (6'3, 257) DE/OLB Hybrid

    Brandon Graham, Michigan (6'2, 263) DE/OLB Hyrbid


    MLB

    Rolando McClain, Alabma (6'4, 256) Junior has yet to declare

    Brandon Spikes, Florida (6'3, 258)

    Darryl Washington, TCU (6'3, 234)

    Sean Lee, Penn State (6'2, 236)

    Micah Johnson, Kentucky (6'2, 258)

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    Defensive Tackle
    - Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
    - Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma
    - Brian Price, UCLA
    - Arthur Jones, Syracuse
    - Jared Odrick, Penn State

    Defensive End
    - Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech
    - Everson Griffen, Southern Cal
    - Corey Wootton, Northwestern
    - Brandon Graham, Michigan
    - Ricky Sapp, Clemson

    Outside Linebacker
    - Sergio Kindle, Texas
    - Navorro Bowman, Penn State
    - Sean Witherspoon, Missouri
    - Eric Norwood, South Carolina
    - Jerry Hughes, TCU

    Inside Linebacker
    - Rolando McClain, Alabama
    - Daryl Washington, TCU
    - Brandon Spikes, Florida
    - Sean Lee, Penn State
    - Pat Angerer, Iowa

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    • #3
      Great list. Thanks for youy input.

      Your feelings on Tennessee OLB Rico McCoy?

      Never heard of the UCLA DT. Will do some research on him now.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ABoyNamedSuh View Post
        Great list. Thanks for youy input.

        Your feelings on Tennessee OLB Rico McCoy?

        Never heard of the UCLA DT. Will do some research on him now.
        I'm surprised you haven't heard of Brian Price. I think he's going to be a really good DT.

        I've only seen McCoy play a couple of times, but, from what I can tell, he's a solid tackler who defends the pass well. He sometimes struggles to locate the ball in the running game (saw him get fooled by simple misdirections a couple of times against Florida), but has good burst to run the ball carrier down when he does.

        I'm not really that interested in the LB prospects this year, though. I doubt we'll lose Ruud and we don't need to replace Hayes or Black unless we switch defensive systems again (which shouldn't happen unless Morris is fired). If we do pick a linebacker, I'd imagine it'd be a late round developmental guy for depth.

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        • #5
          I'm not really that interested in the LB prospects this year, though. I doubt we'll lose Ruud and we don't need to replace Hayes or Black unless we switch defensive systems again
          I don't want to be too hard on Hayes and Black because they are young, but I hold them in regards just like I do Sabby, their a liability at times... Hayes/Black will make a big play one series and then miss a tackle or just plain get ran over the next... I guess a good Dline would free them up more to make more plays and this year will give them valuable expierence... But I wouldn't mind if the Buc's spent a 3rd or 4th round pick on a LB...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KennyG View Post
            I don't want to be too hard on Hayes and Black because they are young, but I hold them in regards just like I do Sabby, their a liability at times... Hayes/Black will make a big play one series and then miss a tackle or just plain get ran over the next... I guess a good Dline would free them up more to make more plays and this year will give them valuable expierence... But I wouldn't mind if the Buc's spent a 3rd or 4th round pick on a LB...
            Hayes and Black will be fine given some time to work with the system. They're both intelligent and instinctive linebackers who have shown above average potential given the fact that the team completely switched defensive schemes halfway through their first year as starters.

            I'm not going to throw a temper tantrum if we bring in a guy to compete with them, but, at the same time, I think we have a lot more pressing needs than any of the LB positions.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Legacy View Post
              I'm surprised you haven't heard of Brian Price. I think he's going to be a really good DT.

              I've only seen McCoy play a couple of times, but, from what I can tell, he's a solid tackler who defends the pass well. He sometimes struggles to locate the ball in the running game (saw him get fooled by simple misdirections a couple of times against Florida), but has good burst to run the ball carrier down when he does.

              I'm not really that interested in the LB prospects this year, though. I doubt we'll lose Ruud and we don't need to replace Hayes or Black unless we switch defensive systems again (which shouldn't happen unless Morris is fired). If we do pick a linebacker, I'd imagine it'd be a late round developmental guy for depth.
              I work in retail (always work weekends) and only DVR'd Gator games this season. I have watched some USCw games out of boredom. lol

              UCLA football gets put on the back burners as far as media coverage goes out here.

              I am torn on if we need a OLB selected in the first 4 rounds of the upcoming draft. I get the impression that in the Tampa 2, it is preffered to have smaller faster OLBs. Is that correct?

              It always seemed to me that our SAM was a different guy every year. (Brooks was WILL, no?) Rudd, Gold, Webster, etc....

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              • #8
                The Tampa 2 does place an emphasis on smaller, faster players in general, so, yes, the linebackers are generally smaller players who have sideline-to-sideline speed.

                It does seem like we've had a different SAM every year, which is why I'd prefer to give Black a shot there. Geno should do just fine at WILL. Both are capable players. They simply need some time to settle into the system. I really don't feel like recycling players year-in and year-out just because we have the option of choosing a good player in the draft is the right way to go here.

                The 4 positions we absolutely need to address in the first four rounds are DT, DE, CB and WR.

                And, yes, Derrick Brooks was the WILL here.

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                • #9
                  So you are happy with Penn and Trueblood at both Tackles?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Legacy View Post
                    I'm not really that interested in the LB prospects this year, though. I doubt we'll lose Ruud and we don't need to replace Hayes or Black unless we switch defensive systems again (which shouldn't happen unless Morris is fired). If we do pick a linebacker, I'd imagine it'd be a late round developmental guy for depth.
                    I agree that we have much more pressing needs than adding another LB in the 2-4th rounds that may not be any significant improvement over the young mid-round LBs we currently have. However, Morris has mentioned that he does like to use 3-4 packages to mix things up. If that does continue, a hybrid DE/OLB may be worthy of a 1st/2nd round pick. We do desperately need a speed rusher and whether he puts his hand on the ground or not is irrelevant.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ABoyNamedSuh View Post
                      So you are happy with Penn and Trueblood at both Tackles?
                      Penn - YES! Penn is extremely underrated. We should have locked him up long term last season. He is going to cost us a fortune in the near future.

                      Trueblood - Meh. Flozell Adams part II. Decent, but could certainly be replaced. Maybe Demar Dotson or Zuttah?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ABoyNamedSuh View Post
                        So you are happy with Penn and Trueblood at both Tackles?
                        I still have high hopes for Penn. He's far exceded the expectations I had for him, given that he was an undrafted player. With that said, he's looked like absolute crap at times this season. The Falcons defensive line abused him yesterday up until the point where he got hurt.

                        Jeremy Trueblood has got to go though. I checked the news when I got home hoping to hear that we had cut his sorry butt, but, alas, my hopes were dashed. There are times when I watch him play and say to myself "Who let Kenyatta Walker back on this team?" When he's not getting beat by DEs, he's committing false starts (he lead the league in false starts this season) or getting some stupid drive-killing personal foul just as the offense starts moving the ball.

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                        • #13
                          Jeremy Trueblood has got to go though. I checked the news when I got home hoping to hear that we had cut his sorry butt, but, alas, my hopes were dashed. There are times when I watch him play and say to myself "Who let Kenyatta Walker back on this team?" When he's not getting beat by DEs, he's committing false starts (he lead the league in false starts this season) or getting some stupid drive-killing personal foul just as the offense starts moving the ball.
                          Penn is definitely a keeper... And agreed about Trueblood..... I do like his nasty demeanor though.. The O line in general is overrated imo. Hopefully Sears gets his act together cause he is a stud..
                          Last edited by KennyG; 01-04-2010, 10:43 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Legacy, boynamedsuh, caddy you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about this years draft, got a question and pardon but I didn't want to start a new thread...
                            Every year there are teams who reach for someone or suprise everyone with who they choose. If you had to predict or guess for this years draft what teams do you see reaching or pulling a shocker pick in the first round?

                            Josh Freeman by Kenbo Slice

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                            • #15
                              First off, Hayes is a perfect fit for what we're trying to do here on D now and will be around as the WLB for many, many years. As for Quincy, jury is still out on him. He could definitely be improved upon, but bigger needs should be filled first.

                              Penn is good, but he's much better in pass protection than in run blocking. He's also kind of let himself go and gained some weight this year, which is a little worrisome for the future if we're committing a long term deal to him. Trueblood IMO has to be replaced.

                              Middle linebacker, Im not even going to worry about that. Ruud isn't going anywhere.

                              DE
                              1. Derrick Morgan
                              2. Everson Griffen
                              3. Brandon Graham
                              4. Sergio Kindle
                              5. Greg Hardy
                              HM: Willie Young

                              Ricky Sapp's potential is intriguing, but am I the only one that is a little scared of the Gaines Adams similarities? I think Hughes will be a 34OLB. I want to avoid Dunlap at all costs.

                              DT
                              1. Ndamukong Suh
                              2. Gerald McCoy
                              3. Brian Price
                              4. Dan Williams
                              5. Jared Odrick
                              Sleepers: D'Anthony Smith & Vince Oghobaase

                              Luckily for us, there's some talent here throughout the draft. I'd love to get Price somehow if we miss out on McCoy, but I dont think he'll last pass the 15th pick considering his scheme versatility and upside. I like D'Anthony Smith and Vince Oghobaase if we could get them in the late 2nd/3rd, respectively.

                              LB
                              1. Sean Weatherspoon
                              2. Eric Norwood
                              3. Daryl Washington
                              4. Roddick Muckelroy
                              5. AJ Edds
                              Sleeper: Dekoda Watson

                              I would love to pickup Washington if everything fell into place, I just don't think LB is big enough of a need to take one in the first 3 rounds. Dekoda could slip a bit because of his size, but would be a nice fit.

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