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  • *NEW* Updated Bucs Mock Offseason

    Resign:
    -Barrett Ruud to long term Deal
    - Donald Penn to Long Term Deal
    - Caddalac williams for 3 years
    - Maurice Stovall for 3 years
    - Corey Lynch for 3 years

    - Give an extension to Davin Joseph for 6 years
    - Extension to Tanard Jackson for 6 years

    Trades:
    - Trade MLB Barrett Ruud to Oakland for Mlb Kirk Morrison, who was also locked up long term.

    - Trade 3rd Round pick to San Diego for CB Antonio Cromartie

    DRAFT:

    1st round- With both SUH and McCoy off the board, the bucs trade the 3rd overall pick to buffalo for #9 and their 2nd round pick.

    At #9 overall, the Bucs select Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State

    Back in the 1st round, it seems like Brian Price is still around at #27, where dallas is open to trading down. Bucs trade #35 and #41 overall to dallas for the #27 overall pick. BUCS SELECT Brian Price DT UCLA.

    In the 2nd round, Tampa takes DE Everson Griffen USC. I think he is going to suffer a slide because guys like Brandon Graham, who tore up the senior bowl are going to move up and St. Piere will tear up the combine, and they are all base 4-3 DE's ,so i see griffen sliding a bit.

    In the 4th round, I see getting the steal of the draft in SS Larry Assante from Nebraska. Great Pick.

    5th round, we take T Kyle Calloway to compete with Jeremy Trueblood at RT

    6th round, Stafon Johnson RB USC

    6th round (f/ Jack) Rico McCoy OLB Tennesee

    7th Round- Terrell Hudgons WR ELON* this guy is big and could be a nice steel for the Bucs

    7th- Andrew Quarless TE Penn State Again, i like this guy as a 2 TE in the passing game behind Winslow. Nice 2nd goaling/redzone option from the TE position.

  • #2
    Some issues I have with this:

    - Why in the world would we sign Ruud to a long term deal and then trade him for another MLB?

    - Antonio Cromartie is not a good fit for this defense. He had a good rookie season, but has packed it in since. He puts no effort into tackling, which is a key skill a cornerback needs to be successful in the Tampa 2 (or any zone scheme, for that matter).

    - I do not like Dez Bryant... at all. I don't think he's going to end up being a good #1 receiver in this league.

    - Trading up for Price is ok. Sitting tight with 3 picks in the 2nd round and drafting Tyson Alualu with one of them might be the better option, though.

    - Kyle Calloway will likely not make it out of the 4th round unless he bombs at the Combine.

    - I think you have Stafon Johnson and Rico McCoy rated a round later than they'll actually be taken.

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    • #3
      1. Cromartie sucks.

      2. Trade an MLB for an MLB? Ruud > Morrison in my opinion.

      3. Brian Price will go top 20 easily.

      4. If Everson makes it to the 2nd round he is a huge steal, but I doubt he does.

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      • #4
        Morrison wasn't locked up long term either. Both he and Rudd are restricted free agents this offseason. And as Caddy said Rudd is twice the player that Morrison is.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Legacy View Post
          Some issues I have with this:

          - Why in the world would we sign Ruud to a long term deal and then trade him for another MLB?

          - Antonio Cromartie is not a good fit for this defense. He had a good rookie season, but has packed it in since. He puts no effort into tackling, which is a key skill a cornerback needs to be successful in the Tampa 2 (or any zone scheme, for that matter).

          - I do not like Dez Bryant... at all. I don't think he's going to end up being a good #1 receiver in this league.

          - Trading up for Price is ok. Sitting tight with 3 picks in the 2nd round and drafting Tyson Alualu with one of them might be the better option, though.

          - Kyle Calloway will likely not make it out of the 4th round unless he bombs at the Combine.

          - I think you have Stafon Johnson and Rico McCoy rated a round later than they'll actually be taken.
          I actually think McCoy will go undrafted. He doesn't impress me at all.

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          • #6
            Alright, now reading about it, i think that was pretty dumb to have the ruud del, but cromartie i think is a solid pick up. In the 3rd round, i wouldn't mind trading the pick for a proven CB who is 25 years old and is a solid cover corner to team with Talib. Tackling could be worked on, but i think for a 3rd round pick, its a steal.

            And yes, he would fit our defense because although we are back to tampa 2, with the blitz schemes raheem is installing, he needs corners to play both zone and man coverage.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bucfan12 View Post
              And yes, he would fit our defense because although we are back to tampa 2, with the blitz schemes raheem is installing, he needs corners to play both zone and man coverage.
              This assumes that Morris is using more blitz packages because he likes blitzing and not because our defensive line couldn't get adequate pressure if they were lined up against a bunch of turn-styles. Right now, we don't know either way and we won't until we get a decent defensive line.

              Either way, Cromartie would not be a good pickup. We don't need players this this:


              Last edited by Legacy; 02-03-2010, 05:48 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bucfan12 View Post
                Alright, now reading about it, i think that was pretty dumb to have the ruud del, but cromartie i think is a solid pick up. In the 3rd round, i wouldn't mind trading the pick for a proven CB who is 25 years old and is a solid cover corner to team with Talib. Tackling could be worked on, but i think for a 3rd round pick, its a steal.

                And yes, he would fit our defense because although we are back to tampa 2, with the blitz schemes raheem is installing, he needs corners to play both zone and man coverage.
                Our corners need to be able to tackle. Cromartie can't tackle...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bucfan12 View Post
                  Resign:
                  -Barrett Ruud to long term Deal
                  - Donald Penn to Long Term Deal
                  - Caddalac williams for 3 years
                  - Maurice Stovall for 3 years
                  - Corey Lynch for 3 years

                  - Give an extension to Davin Joseph for 6 years
                  - Extension to Tanard Jackson for 6 years

                  Trades:
                  - Trade MLB Barrett Ruud to Oakland for Mlb Kirk Morrison, who was also locked up long term.

                  - Trade 3rd Round pick to San Diego for CB Antonio Cromartie

                  DRAFT:

                  1st round- With both SUH and McCoy off the board, the bucs trade the 3rd overall pick to buffalo for #9 and their 2nd round pick.

                  At #9 overall, the Bucs select Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State

                  Back in the 1st round, it seems like Brian Price is still around at #27, where dallas is open to trading down. Bucs trade #35 and #41 overall to dallas for the #27 overall pick. BUCS SELECT Brian Price DT UCLA.

                  In the 2nd round, Tampa takes DE Everson Griffen USC. I think he is going to suffer a slide because guys like Brandon Graham, who tore up the senior bowl are going to move up and St. Piere will tear up the combine, and they are all base 4-3 DE's ,so i see griffen sliding a bit.

                  In the 4th round, I see getting the steal of the draft in SS Larry Assante from Nebraska. Great Pick.

                  5th round, we take T Kyle Calloway to compete with Jeremy Trueblood at RT

                  6th round, Stafon Johnson RB USC

                  6th round (f/ Jack) Rico McCoy OLB Tennesee

                  7th Round- Terrell Hudgons WR ELON* this guy is big and could be a nice steel for the Bucs

                  7th- Andrew Quarless TE Penn State Again, i like this guy as a 2 TE in the passing game behind Winslow. Nice 2nd goaling/redzone option from the TE position.
                  This is a lot going on here man, lets first start by trading Ruud. Its not going to happen. Also why in the world would you give Caddy ( love him ) a three year deal? Cro sucks and is living off of that 10int season he had and the sick one handed pick of Manning three years ago. Also when its all said n done I think Price will be a top 15 pick.

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                  • #10
                    Don't mind trading down with Buffalo and grabbing Dez at all. I don't know about trading back into the first round to get Price, from what i've seen of him I like, but I've heard a little chatter that Price takes plays off and what not, Mayock dosn't even have him in his top 5 for DTs and he is usually pretty good at ranking prospects. I'd rather keep the pick and take BPA..Also one of the DE's is going to slip imo as well, weather it is Griffen or Graham/Dunlap who knows but I think we will be able to get a good one at 2a.

                    With your senario I would rather see this:
                    1. Dez WR
                    2a. B. Graham DE
                    2b. Kyle Wilson CB
                    2c. L. Houston DT
                    3. Alex Carrington DE
                    4. Larry Assante S
                    5. Torrell Troup DT

                    Best Available rest of the way... Or atleast something similiar to this...

                    The combine will take care of some questions about Price I think...

                    If this mock actually went down, you would get 2DTs, 2DEs, a WR, SS and a CB in the frist 5 rounds and a good start to rebuilding the D and giving Freeman the best rated WR in this years draft...
                    Last edited by KennyG; 02-04-2010, 05:55 PM.

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