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  • #16
    For a MLB instincts trumps athleticism. The NFL is littered players who were college stars but didn't seem to do enough at the Combine to warrant high picks - DeMeco Ryans, Lofa Tatupu, Curtis Lofton, Jon Beason (late 1st), Paul Posluszny, David Harris, D'Qwell Jackson, Karlos Dansby, and EJ Henderson, among others.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by StaticGator View Post
      For a MLB instincts trumps athleticism. The NFL is littered players who were college stars but didn't seem to do enough at the Combine to warrant high picks - DeMeco Ryans, Lofa Tatupu, Curtis Lofton, Jon Beason (late 1st), Paul Posluszny, David Harris, D'Qwell Jackson, Karlos Dansby, and EJ Henderson, among others.
      But when you have great Instincts and Athleticism you get guys like Willis or Ray Ray... All I was trying to say that I like my MIB to blow up FB in the hole and make plays in the backfield. Ruud is better dropping back in coverage not moving down hill.

      I want a guy like David Harris or Curtis Lofton as my MIB in Tampa.

      Maybe we can trade Ruud for a Pass rusher... Osi comes to mind.

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      • #18
        Kelvin Sheppard in the 2nd/3rd round.

        I think this guy has playmaker written all over him.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by bigbuc View Post
          But when you have great Instincts and Athleticism you get guys like Willis or Ray Ray... All I was trying to say that I like my MIB to blow up FB in the hole and make plays in the backfield. Ruud is better dropping back in coverage not moving down hill.

          I want a guy like David Harris or Curtis Lofton as my MIB in Tampa.

          Maybe we can trade Ruud for a Pass rusher... Osi comes to mind.
          I agree. I'm just saying there are a lot of prototypical in the box MLB's who don't seem like they should be able to play coverage but since they have the right instincts can still make plays in the passing game.

          And don't forget Ray Lewis was considered undersized coming out of college. That's why he didn't get picked until #26. He wasn't the super prospect Willis was.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by lowlife View Post
            Black might be a good Mike. Pick up a Sam later on or in FA.
            This is what I've been saying all year. Black is the type of speedy kamikaze we need at Mike... if Dakota Watson is up-to-speed, then he should get first crack at Sam with Black moving to Mike.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by brasho View Post
              This is what I've been saying all year. Black is the type of speedy kamikaze we need at Mike... if Dakota Watson is up-to-speed, then he should get first crack at Sam with Black moving to Mike.
              Co-sign, sir.

              "I don't do Pro Days, we send our scouts to those. I would rather spend my time watching film. The eye in the sky never lies. Functional Strength and athletic ability are the first things we look for in a college prospect." - Mark Dominik, Buccaneers GM

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              • #22
                Black at MLB is interesting but it would have to wait untill the offseason and then he would have to learn a new position after getting used to OLB the past 2 years. I think we'll just draft a new MLB.
                save Freeman

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                • #23
                  Black is really good. I don't know if he can play middle though. The staff would know, but they probably wanna keep him at the spot he learned and grew into.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by etk View Post
                    Black is really good. I don't know if he can play middle though. The staff would know, but they probably wanna keep him at the spot he learned and grew into.
                    Actually, I was reading on Pewter report the other day in their draft section and they mentioned how they may not keep both Black and Ruud and will only keep 1. The article menitioned how Black during the early stages of his career was being groomed as the backup MLB behind Ruud, but then was moved outside because the team needed to find a way to get him on the field.

                    With that said, I think the move to MLB is possible and Black is fast and aggressive enough to shoot through the gaps. The Bucs like Watson , so I could see the move happening.

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                    • #25
                      I'd love for that to happen. I know Black has the skillset for MLB (or any LB position tbh) but I was wondering whether our staff thinks he can handle the switch. OLB and MLB are very different roles in our system and Black wasn't a fast learner to begin with.

                      If Black can handle the switch mentally than it would be an instant upgrade imo. I liked the Watson pick and he can't be any worse than Ryan Nece.

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                      • #26
                        Totally want to see this at least tried. Even if I have to wait till 2011 mini camps and OTAs. Nothing wrong with trying it out. Hell maybe even at the end of this year so we can see how long it might take for Black and Watson to adjust before the draft. Then again, I think we should be drafting a LB regardless, if it is believed that we will be losing one starting LB anyways.

                        "I don't do Pro Days, we send our scouts to those. I would rather spend my time watching film. The eye in the sky never lies. Functional Strength and athletic ability are the first things we look for in a college prospect." - Mark Dominik, Buccaneers GM

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                        • #27
                          The guy I wish Ruud played like is coming to town this week...James Laurinaitis. Dude is crazy good.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by etk View Post
                            I'd love for that to happen. I know Black has the skillset for MLB (or any LB position tbh) but I was wondering whether our staff thinks he can handle the switch. OLB and MLB are very different roles in our system and Black wasn't a fast learner to begin with.

                            If Black can handle the switch mentally than it would be an instant upgrade imo. I liked the Watson pick and he can't be any worse than Ryan Nece.
                            Actually, according to Monte Kiffin, if an LB can play the Sam in our system then he can play any of the other two spots. How would Quincy NOT be better than Ruud? Considering Quincy played the same Lobo position at New Mexico that Urlacher did and Urlacher has been a Mike for almost his entire (his first preseason he was a Sam) career, there is no reason whey he couldn't do it.

                            In the Bucs' system, the Sam normally takes on far more blocks than the other LBs and the the Mike and Will are usually playing in far more space, something I would think that a player with 4.42 speed, like Black, would do pretty well with.

                            Dakoda played almost the entire 2nd half vs the Falcons after Black went down with an ankle injury while rushing the passer. He played very well. We need to get them both in there... unfortunately it doesn't appear Raheem wants to bench the QB of his defense even if he stinks. Ruud could always get hurt, but stats have shown that players are less prone to injury when they are consistently not near the ball, fall on the ground instead of taking on blocks, and are generally lost on most plays.

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                            • #29
                              lol 10 char

                              "I don't do Pro Days, we send our scouts to those. I would rather spend my time watching film. The eye in the sky never lies. Functional Strength and athletic ability are the first things we look for in a college prospect." - Mark Dominik, Buccaneers GM

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