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  • My Final Mock

    My first mock (dated March 13th)

    1(4) DT Amobi Okoye
    2(35) C Ryan Kalil
    2(64) S Eric Weddle
    3(68) LaMar Woodley

    My second mock (April 2nd)
    1(4) WR Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
    2(35) S Brandon Meriweather Miami
    2(64) DE Victor Abiamiri Notre Dame
    3(68) DE/DT Ray McDonald Florida
    4(98) OG/C Josh Beekman Boston College

    My Final Mock (April 26th)

    1(4) OT Joe Thomas, Wisconsin - I may be the only one on this draft board rejoicing after this selection, but with CJ and Brady Quinn both going top 3, JT is a no-brainer at #4. Unless Arizona gets desperate for JT, and offers up their 2nd round pick to move up one spot, the Bucs should stay put and make this selection. The #4 pick is too early for Okoye, and the depth at DE in round 2 takes Adams out of the running.

    2a. DT Justin Harrell, Tennessee - injury concerns push this first round talent into early round 2. Following Okoye and Branch, Harrell is clearly the most talented DT in the draft.

    2b. DE Victor Abiamiri, Notre Dame - was solid at the Senior Bowl, is sculpted, and comes from Notre Dame; all three deciding factors for Gruden. Not to mention that Kiffin will get the young pass rushing DE he has long needed.

    3. CB/S Tanard Jackson, Syracuse - physical player with good tackling ability. Could play safety or corner in the Tampa 2

    4. DE Dan Bazuin, Central Michigan - big time character player with great small school production

    5. WR Yamon Figurs, Kansas State - a very popular pick in Buc mocks for obvious reasons. Figurs may even get a look in round 4, given the premium placed on Hester-esque type players. If drafted, look for Figurs to return that first kickoff for a TD in Bucs history.

  • #2
    I really like it but am not sure if everyone will be around. I would love Harrell in round 2 but I get the impression his injury is becoming less of a concern and he'll go end of round 1. Also I've seen Tanard Jackson at the end of round 2 before. The only pick I don't really like is Figurs. For some reason I'm intrigued by Johnnie Lee Higgins there.

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    • #3
      Decent mock but I question the Jackson pick. Do you really think he has the ability to play safety in the league? I think we would be better off going after an actual safety somewhere, someone like a Wendling, Rouse, Merriweather, Weddle etc.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 24cadillac24 View Post
        Decent mock but I question the Jackson pick. Do you really think he has the ability to play safety in the league? I think we would be better off going after an actual safety somewhere, someone like a Wendling, Rouse, Merriweather, Weddle etc.
        Fair comment, but I like Jackson over Wendling and Rouse.

        I would take a long look at somebody like Meriweather or Griffin if they were still available at #35, especially if we go DL in round 1.

        In my opinion, the value of a DE is higher at #35 than Weddle, and I think that he will be gone by #64. I love the guy, but we may have to trade up in to the middle of round 2 to get him.

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        • #5
          The only pick I would dislike is the Harrell selection. He's a good player but not the kind of UT for our defense. He projects as more of a NT like Hovan. I like Ray McDonald a lot more and I know you like him as well, Booger.

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          • #6
            I like the Thomas Harrel and abiamiri combo with the first three picks,the game is won and lost in the trenches, not a big fan of jackson though

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            • #7
              Originally posted by etk View Post
              The only pick I would dislike is the Harrell selection. He's a good player but not the kind of UT for our defense. He projects as more of a NT like Hovan. I like Ray McDonald a lot more and I know you like him as well, Booger.
              I like Harrell and while his scouting reports will say he's not a sack artist, everytime I've watched him he gets penetration into the backfield. As nice as it was having Warren Sapp notch double digit sacks from the inside, it's a rarity. He was the only tackle in the league last year in the top 25 for sacks. I think a player like Harrell would still help the defense by collapsing the pocket and letting the ends get the actual sacks.

              I have serious questions about Ray Mac being an every down 4-3 tackle.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by StaticGator View Post
                I like Harrell and while his scouting reports will say he's not a sack artist, everytime I've watched him he gets penetration into the backfield. As nice as it was having Warren Sapp notch double digit sacks from the inside, it's a rarity. He was the only tackle in the league last year in the top 25 for sacks. I think a player like Harrell would still help the defense by collapsing the pocket and letting the ends get the actual sacks.

                I have serious questions about Ray Mac being an every down 4-3 tackle.
                good post that I agree with, why do you have negative rep?

                we cant expect any DT we take to be a double digit sack master. Even Amobi Okoye would not be some elite rusher like Sapp was.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by -black View Post
                  good post that I agree with, why do you have negative rep?

                  we cant expect any DT we take to be a double digit sack master. Even Amobi Okoye would not be some elite rusher like Sapp was.
                  Somehow the Buccaneers need to find an impact UT. Whether that be through Harrell, or MacDonald remains to be seen, but we definitely need someone who is going to wreak havoc in the pocket.

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                  • #10
                    wrecking havoc in the pockett does not neccesarily mean double digit sacks. We Need a UT that will dominate the inside and let our ends rush the passer.


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by -black View Post
                      wrecking havoc in the pockett does not neccesarily mean double digit sacks. We Need a UT that will dominate the inside and let our ends rush the passer.
                      I never said it did, all I said was we need an impact at UT which we do not currently have.

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                      • #12
                        then I agree

                        although Whyms is servicable (he isnt some bum). We could live without a UT this year and go for one next year. Hovan and Whyms are both under 30 and Carter should be decent. We need two DE's though, since I belive Both Spires and Rice will be gone next year

                        get our two DE's now, recoop cap from Rice and Spires, then go after an impact UT next year (preferably Demario Presseley)


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by -black View Post
                          then I agree

                          although Whyms is servicable (he isnt some bum). We could live without a UT this year and go for one next year. Hovan and Whyms are both under 30 and Carter should be decent. We need two DE's though, since I belive Both Spires and Rice will be gone next year

                          get our two DE's now, recoop cap from Rice and Spires, then go after an impact UT next year (preferably Demario Presseley)
                          Yup. That's what I said in my mock thread.

                          Originally posted by StaticGator View Post
                          Basically I just don't like the defensive tackles that will be slotted to the Bucs. I think Mebane stinks and I only see Ray Mac as a 3-4 end. The only one I'm kind of interested in is Antonio Johnson. So I'd rather capitalize on a strong DE class and not reach on some weak DTs. Next year looks pretty good with Okam, Pressley, Ellis, and Dorsey off the top of my head. I feel this is a sounder strategy for long term success.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by -black View Post
                            then I agree

                            although Whyms is servicable (he isnt some bum). We could live without a UT this year and go for one next year. Hovan and Whyms are both under 30 and Carter should be decent. We need two DE's though, since I belive Both Spires and Rice will be gone next year

                            get our two DE's now, recoop cap from Rice and Spires, then go after an impact UT next year (preferably Demario Presseley)
                            Maybe we could swindle Chicago out of Tommie Harris :)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by -black View Post
                              then I agree

                              although Whyms is servicable (he isnt some bum). We could live without a UT this year and go for one next year. Hovan and Whyms are both under 30 and Carter should be decent. We need two DE's though, since I belive Both Spires and Rice will be gone next year

                              get our two DE's now, recoop cap from Rice and Spires, then go after an impact UT next year (preferably Demario Presseley)
                              There's a lot of gray areas when it comes to our UT position right now. Wyms is a solid starter and Carter could potentially provide a nice rotation. The problem is that Wyms has major durability concerns and Carter is aging. We don't need a young stud at UT, but we need to take one in the 4th at the very least. Depth is minimal and once again Wyms cannot handle full-time duty with his aggressive style. Ray McDonald or Kareem Brown would suffice for the moment, and even a guy like Marcus Thomas is a possibility with Gruden's history of liking talented players with problems.

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