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    Here are a few points of contention we can discuss:

    Buy or Sell the following:

    1. Chris Simms will be the opening day starter
    2. Gaines Adams was the right selection at #4 overall
    3. In 3 years, this will be the draft we look back on as the re-birth of our defense.
    4. Keyshawn will be brought back to Tampa Bay this season (as per Schefter's report that Key would gladly re-join the Bucs if Gruden gave him a call).
    5. Jon Gruden will be fired if the team doesnt finish with at least 7 wins.

    1. Sell - Garcia was brought in to start; see recent Gruden comments about protecting Garcia.
    2. Buy - while Okoye must have been tempting, it spoke volumes to me that Petrino passed him up at #8 as well.
    3. Buy - I trust Kiffin's eye for talent much more than all of you haters of this draft. We drafted speed and potential, let the re-moulding of the D begin.
    4. Sell - at the vet min, bringing back Meshawn would make some sense to mentor Clayton and Stovall. But I can't see a Johnson/Gruden reunion happening.
    5. Sell - I think that Gruden/Allen made all of the right moves this offseason, adding a vet QB, some o-line help, and a lot of defensive help (experience and youth) without sacrificing our cap situation. I think that improvement over last year will be enough to keep his job.

  • #2
    1. Buy

    2. Buy

    3. Sell

    4. Buy

    5. Sell


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    • #3
      1. Sell
      2. Buy
      3. Sell
      4. Sell
      5. Buy

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      • #4
        buy
        buy
        buy
        buy
        sell

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Booger View Post
          Here are a few points of contention we can discuss:

          Buy or Sell the following:

          1. Chris Simms will be the opening day starter
          2. Gaines Adams was the right selection at #4 overall
          3. In 3 years, this will be the draft we look back on as the re-birth of our defense.
          4. Keyshawn will be brought back to Tampa Bay this season (as per Schefter's report that Key would gladly re-join the Bucs if Gruden gave him a call).
          5. Jon Gruden will be fired if the team doesnt finish with at least 7 wins.
          1. Sell-batted balls r' us
          2. Buy - he would have been the right selectoin at 3 with Thomas still on the board. Monte needs a pass rush. I think Adams will have a better career than Rice.
          3. Buy (no I am going with the 2006 draft [/sarcasm])
          4. Sell-Gruden doesn't want him and we are already deep at WR
          5. Sell - The Glazers know how good a coach Gruden is in a tough division, but I am confident we will get at least 7 wins)

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          • #6
            how are we deep at WR????????????????????????????


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            • #7
              1: Buy
              2: Buy
              3: Buy
              4: Sell
              5: Sell (If the Glazers see improvement, Gruden will stay.)

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              • #8
                1. Sell - I just don't seem him beating out Garcia
                2. Buy - Addressing the pass rush was the #1 priority
                3. Sell - I don't think that will be accomplished in 1 offseason
                4. Sell - Why bring in KJ, they need to see who the real Clayton is and if Stovall can be a solid WR in the league
                5. Sell - I think the Glazers said they wanted to see improvement, not a specific win total. I'm still not sure there is a better alternative for HC right now.
                "If everyone liked the same thing everyone would be after your grandmother."

                My Grandfather

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                • #9
                  why bring back Meshawn? because he is a competitive and productive player and this is something our WR core needs. If we can bring in David Boston then we can bring in Key. If we can sign 1000 QB's, then we can bring in Key. If we can sign another TE (giving us 4 potential starters or producers) then we can bring in Key


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by -black View Post
                    why bring back Meshawn? because he is a competitive and productive player and this is something our WR core needs. If we can bring in David Boston then we can bring in Key. If we can sign 1000 QB's, then we can bring in Key. If we can sign another TE (giving us 4 potential starters or producers) then we can bring in Key
                    I agree he is competitive and produces on the field, but all reports were he was a problem in the locker room, and I don't see why a 4-12 would look to add a known or even potential problem in the locker room.

                    There is also the financial aspect to KJ, his contract with CAR was something like 4 years $14M with a $5M signing bonus. Now if KJ wants to sign a contract like Stevens just did that could be another thing, but again the potential of a locker room issue is still there and an unnecessary risk in my mind.
                    "If everyone liked the same thing everyone would be after your grandmother."

                    My Grandfather

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                    • #11
                      he wasnt a problem in the locker room. He just had differences with Gruden. Key is NOT a T.O type where he disrupts teamates. He is not like Randy Moss where he stops working hard. Key is a competitor and loves football and his personality was high strung. Gruden did not like that, he wants to be the most high strung personality in the huddle.

                      winning can cure everything, and at that point we were not winning. Im sure if Gruden and Key talked they could reconcile their differences. But Key was NOT a cancer to the team....


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                      • #12
                        If the Bucs were 12-4 then I'm sure KJ and Gruden would be fast friends. But this won't be a 12-4 team, with or without KJ.
                        "If everyone liked the same thing everyone would be after your grandmother."

                        My Grandfather

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                        • #13
                          Sell

                          Buy

                          Buy

                          Sell

                          Sell - I think too much water has passed under the bridge, Key embarrassed himself and the whole organisation with his sideline brain-fart!
                          I wouldn't want him back.

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                          • #14
                            1. Sell. I think it will be a good training camp battle but i have a feeling Garcia is in the box seat at the moment.

                            2. Buy. If he can get enough support from the inside of the DL

                            3. Sell. Hopefully the start but will take a lot of luck for them all to make an impact.

                            4. Sell. I believe the Giants are in the box seat for Keyshawn at the moment

                            5. Sell. I think the Glazers will support Gruden for the long run - we gave up too much to kick him off this early.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by -black View Post
                              how are we deep at WR????????????????????????????
                              Joey Galloway, Michael Clayton, Maurice Stovall, David Boston, Paris Warren, Ike Hilliard, Chas Gessner and Chad Owens (more of a return specialist but he will operate as a reserve WR).

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