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  • #16
    some minicamp pics:

    Big Al:





    Orakpo:





    Barnes:





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    Colt:















    Devin:







    JC:







    CP:

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    • #17
      yahoo has a sweet gallery up too:

      http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/wa...9_redskins%3A1

      RAK looks good.

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      • #18
        Orakpo looks beastly as heck!

        How's he looked in Mini Camp so far?

        BTW, I'm really looking forward to Week 2 :)
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        • #19
          http://realredskins.com/2009/05/mini...uick-hits.html

          A few observations from today's Redskins minicamp:

          * As most of you know, I'm not much of a Colt Brennan guy but I have to say that I was impressed during seven-on-seven and 11-on-11 drills. He fired a few intermediate passes over the middle with great accuracy and authority and showed good touch on deep passes. I'm not ready to anoint him as a future star or anything but after today I'll be a lot less surprised if it does happen.

          * Brian Orakpo worked with the linebackers earlier in the session and with the defensive line later on. In the 11-on-11 he displayed a quick first move and good speed around the edge from a three-point stance. I'm a bit concerned about throwing too much at him with the two positions.

          * D. J. Hackett, the former Seahawk and Panther that the Redskins tried to sign as a free agent last year, was in for a non-roster tryout. He looked sharp, although he did have the advantage of having a good base of knowledge of Zorn's offense.

          * The best-looking receiver out there was Devin Thomas. He certainly seems to be in excellent shape and he's running sharp routes. It appears that, unlike last year, he "gets it".

          * I had a good chat with Zorn with just a couple of other reporters after the main media session had broken up. He walked us through the process of sorting out the tryout players. "First we identify the ones who are going to hurt themselves or hurt someone else. They're gone today," he said, smiling. "We didn't have any of those," he added.



          I love hearing good things about Colt and Devin. I have some real high hopes on Devin this season. Hopefully the coaches are right and Orakpo can handle getting reps at both spots so soon.

          Also heres an interview with Colt from mini camp:
          http://skinscast.com/redskins/2009/minicamp/BRENNAN.WMA

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          • #20
            Sounds like a few early position battles going on already in mini camp. One that I think will be quite interesting is the battle for the final running back/return specialist spot. Rock Cartwright, Dominique Dorsey, Anthony Aldridge, and Marcus Mason will probably see the majority of the preseason snaps as well as split time doing returns. I read some impressive stuff about Dorsey and Aldridge this weekend and obviously Mason and Rock have some experience already so it will be interesting. Aldridge is an interesting prospect out of Houston last year that had a good preseason with Denver but then was put on IR. I think he ran like a 4.36 40 time. Dorsey is out of the CFL. Another speedster who apparently specializes in kick returns more so than at RB.

            Another one that I am happy to see is the competition at WR. Obviously Moss is a shoe in, Randle El and Devin Thomas were said to be the two most impressive guys at camp, which should make up our primary three guys but after that there are a handful of players all pushing for a spot on the roster. DJ Hackett, if he can stay healthy, may be the front runner based on his experience with Zorns offense in Seattle. He's said to have looked really good so far in camp. Another guy getting some love from camp is Kelley Washington. Not a guy who has had a lot of success in the NFL but could be a good 5th or 6th option. Rookies Jaison Williams, Tommy Breaux, and Marko Mitchell have also impressed here and there throughout the weekend and the Skins just brought in Trent Shelton, another young ex Seahawk. Also in that mix is James Thrash fighting to keep his spot on the team and Malcolm Kelly still rehabbing his knee. When its all said and done I think the Skins will keep 6 WRs and Im pulling for Moss, Thomas, El, Hackett, Kelly, and Mitchell.

            To my surprise, it looks like a few guys fighting for playing time/roster spots on the offensive line as well. Big Mike Williams apparently is really playing hard out there even at 400 lbs...I'm not sure that hell make the roster but if he does, he will have earned it. Rineheart has apparently looked really good so far, and the Skins have also signed Jeremy Bridges who started 28 games in Carolina the last 3 seasons. With Jansen and Heyer also battling for time at RT this should be an interesting one to watch as well through OTAs and preseason.

            One other guy who apparently stood out this weekend specifically was Fred Davis, which is great to hear.

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            • #21
              I really hope Fred Davis somehow gets more playing time this year. He's a very good receiving TE and could be a great target in the redzone but for some reason he didn't see the field hardly at all last year.

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              • #22
                This is what Zorn has reportedly said

                "HOPEFULLY we're looking for one(?) sure starter out of these guys(the 3 2008 second rounders) and fred will not beat out chris cooley."

                If kelly and thomas keep missing time(hence the skins currently signing more wideouts) Zorn will be lucky to have one starter!

                Instead of using a second rounder on a t.e. who has no chance of starting our beloved front office passed up on;
                W.R. desean Jackson/limas Sweed
                D.E./L.B quentin Groves
                D.T. jason Jones
                R.B. ray Rice
                G./C. mike Pollak

                Already most of these players have been far more productive for their teams than fred.
                What is the betting that they will be even further ahead after this season?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by treyskins View Post
                  This is what Zorn has reportedly said

                  "HOPEFULLY we're looking for one(?) sure starter out of these guys(the 3 2008 second rounders) and fred will not beat out chris cooley."

                  If kelly and thomas keep missing time(hence the skins currently signing more wideouts) Zorn will be lucky to have one starter!

                  Instead of using a second rounder on a t.e. who has no chance of starting our beloved front office passed up on;
                  W.R. desean Jackson/limas Sweed
                  D.E./L.B quentin Groves
                  D.T. jason Jones
                  R.B. ray Rice
                  G./C. mike Pollak

                  Already most of these players have been far more productive for their teams than fred.
                  What is the betting that they will be even further ahead after this season?
                  Hindsight. You can say the same if we had taken Portis over Ramsey, if we had taken Anquan or Osi over Taylor Jacobs, etc. Anyways Malcolm Kelly if anything is the pick you should question after we had just taken Devin Thomas and Fred Davis. Also why do you list Djax and Sweed. So you would have wanted us to take 3 WR's???

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                  • #24
                    Huh,
                    so you think using a second rounder on a t.e. with no chance of unseating Cooley was worth it?
                    I'd like our second rounders go towards a player that will start,sooner rather than later.
                    i.m.o. the davis pick is just as bad as the risky kelly pick.

                    As was said after the 2008 draft no other team has used its first 3 picks on pass-catchers.
                    It was a poor year to take wideouts-none were taken until the second round so why not just take one and wait for a better draft for wideouts and use the picks on other areas?
                    Because, our g.m. wanted lots of toys to make up for not getting chad johnson.
                    Neglect of the lines(orakpo excepted-luckily).........................
                    and so it continues.

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                    • #25
                      Davis seems to be just another USC receiver gone by the wayside. USC is great for a lot of things, but receivers is not one of them. Though they have a TE there now that looks like he's going to be a beast.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                        Davis seems to be just another USC receiver gone by the wayside. USC is great for a lot of things, but receivers is not one of them. Though they have a TE there now that looks like he's going to be a beast.
                        Davis is a TE though. We should be running some 2 TE sets to get him involved. He does stretch the field vertically better than Cooley.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SeanTaylorRIP View Post
                          Davis is a TE though. We should be running some 2 TE sets to get him involved. He does stretch the field vertically better than Cooley.
                          Yeah, still a type of receiver... is what I was trying to lump together.

                          I don't know if Zorn's offense calls for a 2 TE set. I don't know the WCO enough to know if 2 TE set packages are apart of that offense. Do you know if Davis was drafted for that purpose?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                            Yeah, still a type of receiver... is what I was trying to lump together.

                            I don't know if Zorn's offense calls for a 2 TE set. I don't know the WCO enough to know if 2 TE set packages are apart of that offense. Do you know if Davis was drafted for that purpose?
                            He was drafted cause I'm sure Cerrato and Vinny thought he was BPA but Zorn did say after that they would try to include a lot of 2 TE set's to utilize Cooley and Davis. I think the learning curve of the offense for players and staff was overwhelming year one and we didn't get to see much of Fred. I don't recall Cooley or Davis playing together but I think this year you will finally see it implemented.


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                            • #29
                              I think it's pretty funny... Brennan, Orakpo.... the biggest fans of those players were/are Cowboys fans on this board.

                              God must be a Redskins fan cause he's doing a good job of punishing us.
                              Last edited by D-Unit; 05-04-2009, 04:23 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Skins just added more to that competition for the 5-6th wr spots signing Roydell Williams today. He started 14 games for the titans in 2007 with 55 catches for 720 yards and 4 tds but did not play in 2008 due to an ankle injury in January of 2008. Heck if Kelly doesnt figure that knee out soon he could be in trouble with all these wrs around.

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