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  • Originally posted by critesy View Post
    i pray to god/allah/buddha that bruce allen talks some sense into danny and leads him else where hahah.
    if the skins land shanahan then i do expect 1-2 FA Oline signings for sure and maybe not the guys you would expect. shanahan is notorious for finding olineman that fit his style that arent necessarily the big name guys.

    everything that i am hearing tends to side towards 2010 being uncapped. in which case i wouldnt be surprised to see bruce allen make some surprising cuts because i dont foresee many more if any uncapped years beyond 2010.

    Here are a few guys that could be in question, their 2010 cap hit, and their likelihood of remaining a Redskins IMO if there are no cap penalties in 2010:

    -Randy Thomas, $5.6 million - Out
    -Antwaan Randle El, $5 million - Out
    -Chris Samuels, $4.85 million - Out
    -Todd Collins, $3.5 million - Out

    -Clinton Portis, $12.1 million - Doubtful
    -Fred Smoot, $5.4 million - Doubtful
    -Casey Rabach, $3.5 million - Doubtful
    -Ladell Betts, $2.5 million - Doubtful

    -Cornelius Griffin, $2 million - Questionable
    -Rock Cartwright, $1.6 million - Questionable

    -Laron Landry, $5.7 million - Probable

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    • Originally posted by Dirty Thirty View Post
      if the skins land shanahan then i do expect 1-2 FA Oline signings for sure and maybe not the guys you would expect. shanahan is notorious for finding olineman that fit his style that arent necessarily the big name guys.

      everything that i am hearing tends to side towards 2010 being uncapped. in which case i wouldnt be surprised to see bruce allen make some surprising cuts because i dont foresee many more if any uncapped years beyond 2010.

      Here are a few guys that could be in question, their 2010 cap hit, and their likelihood of remaining a Redskins IMO if there are no cap penalties in 2010:

      -Randy Thomas, $5.6 million - Out
      -Antwaan Randle El, $5 million - Out
      -Chris Samuels, $4.85 million - Out
      -Todd Collins, $3.5 million - Out

      -Clinton Portis, $12.1 million - Doubtful
      -Fred Smoot, $5.4 million - Doubtful
      -Casey Rabach, $3.5 million - Doubtful
      -Ladell Betts, $2.5 million - Doubtful

      -Cornelius Griffin, $2 million - Questionable
      -Rock Cartwright, $1.6 million - Questionable

      -Laron Landry, $5.7 million - Probable
      I could see every one of these guys going in an uncapped year. Possibly trade Landry for a 2nd /3rd. I agree that we could see one or two Oline FA's but I would still draft at least 2 Olinemen in that scenario.
      Sean Taylor - You'll always be missed but never forgotten

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      • Guys to keep an eye on;

        Broncos;Guards ben Hamilton+chris Kuper
        Bucs;Tackles jeremy Trueblood+donald Penn

        If uncapped all except Hamilton would be restricted free agents but if we could trade using our 4th or 5th rounders and a pick from 2011 then worth looking at.

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        • From ESPN Insider

          If he's retained nothing else from his time at the University of Hawaii, at least Washington Redskins QB Colt Brennan still has a surfer's exuberance. Regarding a disappointing 2009 season where he was placed on IR in September, Brennan told the Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star, "I'm so glad that I'm a couple weeks from totally closing that chapter and moving on to something totally awesome." Totally.

          But in addition to picking up the valley girl lingo, Brennan also set NCAA records while at Hawaii, so there is some hope that he'll be a suitable NFL starter some day.

          Moving forward to 2010, Jason Campbell's future is up in the air, but many have speculated that he'll be elsewhere. Todd Collins -- who was born ten days before Intel released the world's first microprocessor on Nov. 15, 1971 -- is not the answer if this team is looking to the future. The options as we see it would be to retain Brennan (who is under a relatively-cheap contract through 2011), bring in a (younger than Collins) veteran, draft someone new, or some combination of the three.


          Some other interesting ones:

          The Baltimore Sun had word this past week that Troy Smith wanted a chance to be a legit NFL starter, and by our calculations, that means he's subtly angling for a trade or a release.

          The demand for a trade may have already happened, and we learn about such things on Twitter from his agent Ralph Cindrich: "Ravens QB Troy Smith, Ohio State alum, native Heisman winner wants playing time. Ravens notified. Will seek trade after playoffs, SB run."


          ------------------------

          Mike Holmgren -- the Cleveland Browns czar of all things football -- and Matt Hasselbeck have a lot of shared history. If the speculation this week from NFC West blogger Mike Sando becomes more than just speculation, that shared history might continue in 2010.

          In discussing the three different options for the Seattle Seahawks related to Hasselbeck moving forward, Sando includes the possibility that the team could trade him; furthermore, Sando thinks that Holmgren and the Browns would be "a natural fit."

          If the rumors are true that Holmgren wants to install some version of his West Coast offense in Cleveland, Hasselbeck might be the perfect option. We'll be interested to hear more on this as it develops this offseason.
          Last edited by DiG; 12-29-2009, 03:58 PM.

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          • Man, I just hope you guys patch your OL in FA and the Draft then give Colt a chance.

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            • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
              Man, I just hope you guys patch your OL in FA and the Draft then give Colt a chance.
              Maybe but don't be surprised if he is cut by the new coach (likely Shanny), after FA/draft. He is Zorn's pet project and any film on him in the last 2 years won't provide a ringing endorsement. That being said he does deserve at least a chance somewhere.
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              • Originally posted by Canadian_draft_fan View Post
                Maybe but don't be surprised if he is cut by the new coach (likely Shanny), after FA/draft. He is Zorn's pet project and any film on him in the last 2 years won't provide a ringing endorsement. That being said he does deserve at least a chance somewhere.
                I won't be surprised by anything. I know Colt's chances are slim to none.

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                • Anyone watch Okung today? I caught bits and pieces of the game but I forgot to pay attention to Okung in the little bit that i saw. i know robinson played like crap but hunter ran the ball well. like i said i did not watch enough to know though how specifically okung played.

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                  • Originally posted by Dirty Thirty View Post
                    Anyone watch Okung today? I caught bits and pieces of the game but I forgot to pay attention to Okung in the little bit that i saw. i know robinson played like crap but hunter ran the ball well. like i said i did not watch enough to know though how specifically okung played.
                    I saw most of the game and really didn't see much from Okung. Didn't play bad in the run game but nothing special overall. Didn't strike me as a player the Skins had to have over the other tackles in this draft.
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                    • Originally posted by Canadian_draft_fan View Post
                      I saw most of the game and really didn't see much from Okung. Didn't play bad in the run game but nothing special overall. Didn't strike me as a player the Skins had to have over the other tackles in this draft.
                      Turns out Okung was playing injured in the bowl game. Could be why he maybe didnt stand out but on the year he has only 1.5 sacks allowed which is incredibly impressive. He ends his career with 46 consecutive starts and anchors a line that gave up only 10 sacks on the entire season.

                      I love Davis upside but I dont think that theres an offensive lineman in the draft that is as ready to immediately contibute like Okung and we all know that we need a rookie that can start right away.

                      With that said, I am very much liking what Im seeing in Davis as well.
                      Last edited by DiG; 01-03-2010, 12:14 PM.

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                      • Some of my recent position rankings. The "tiers" have nothing to do with rounds in the draft but are associated with where I see a drop-off in talent.

                        OT

                        Tier 1
                        1. Russell Okung
                        2. Anthony Davis

                        Tier 2
                        3. Trent Williams
                        4. Bruce Campbell
                        5. Bryan Bulaga

                        Tier 3
                        6. Vladimir Ducasse
                        7. Charles Brown
                        8. Tony Washington

                        Tier 4
                        9. Ciron Black
                        10. Jason Fox
                        11. Kyle Calloway
                        12. Adam Ulatoski
                        13. Ed Wang

                        RB

                        Tier 1
                        1. CJ Spiller

                        Tier 2
                        2. Jahvid Best
                        3. Montario Hardesty
                        4. Noel Devine
                        5. Jon Dwyer

                        Tier 3
                        5. Ryan Matthews
                        6. Joe McKnight
                        7. Toby Gerhart

                        Tier 4
                        8. Ben Tate
                        9. Charles Scott
                        10. Dexter McCluster
                        11. Anthony Dixon
                        12. LaGarrette Blount

                        FS

                        Tier 1
                        1. Eric Berry

                        Tier 2
                        2. Earl Thomas
                        3. Chad Jones

                        Tier 3
                        4. Nate Allen
                        5. Larry Asante
                        6. Kim Chancellor

                        Tier 4
                        7. Kendrick Lewis
                        8. Barry Church

                        C

                        Tier 1
                        1. Kris Odowd
                        1a. Maurkice Pouncey

                        Tier 2
                        2. JD Walton
                        3. Matt Tennant

                        Tier 3
                        4. Ted Larson
                        5. Eric Olsen
                        6. Jon Estes
                        7. Joe Hawley
                        8. Chris Hall

                        OG

                        Tier 1
                        1. Mike Iupati

                        Tier 2
                        2. Jon Asamoah
                        3. Mike Johnson
                        4. Zane Beadles
                        5. Mike Pouncey

                        Tier 3
                        6. Sergio Render
                        7. John Jerry
                        8. Mitch Petrus

                        Tier 4
                        9. Shaun Lauvao
                        10. Chris Marinelli

                        QB

                        Tier 1
                        None

                        Tier 2
                        1. Jimmy Clausen

                        Tier 3
                        2. Sam Bradford
                        3. Ryan Mallett
                        4. Colt McCoy
                        5. Tim Tebow

                        Tier 4
                        6. Sean Canfield
                        7. Daryll Clark
                        8. Tony Pike
                        9. Dan LeFevour

                        Tier 5
                        10. John Skelton
                        11. Levi Brown
                        12. Jarrett Brown
                        13. Tim Hiller
                        14. Rusty Smith
                        Last edited by DiG; 01-07-2010, 08:35 AM.

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                        • Mock Offseason - Uncapped

                          Retire
                          QB Todd Collins
                          OT Chris Samuels

                          Cut
                          RB Clinton Portis
                          WR Antwaan Randle El
                          OG Randy Thomas
                          RB Ladell Betts
                          DT Cornelius Griffin

                          Tender
                          QB Jason Campbell (1st round)
                          CB Carlos Rogers (2nd round)
                          DT Anthony Montgomery (6th round drafted)

                          Resign
                          OLB Rocky McCintosh
                          DT Kedric Gholston
                          OT Levi Jones

                          Sign
                          OG Ben Hamilton - Denver
                          QB Sage Rosenfels - Minnesota (assuming cut)
                          RB Willie Parker - Pittsburgh
                          DT Tony Brown - Tennessee (experience playing with big al)
                          WR Antonio Bryant - Tampa (huge productivity with kyle shanahan)
                          OLB Keith Bullock - Tennessee (final chance to make a little cash)
                          OG Chester Pitts - Houston (experience with kyle and cheap depth)

                          Trade
                          Laron Landry to Minnesota for 2nd round pick

                          Draft
                          RD 1 - Eric Berry, FS, Tenn
                          RD 2 - Charles Brown, OT, USC
                          RD 2 - Montario Hardesty, RB, Tenn
                          RD 4 - Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
                          RD 6 - Justin Cole, OLB, San Jose State

                          Depth Chart
                          QB - Campbell / Brennan / Rosenfels
                          RB - Parker / Hardesty / Ganther
                          FB - Sellers
                          WR1 - Moss / Bryant / Mitchell
                          WR2 - Thomas / Kelly
                          TE - Cooley / Davis / Yoder
                          LT - Charles Brown / Heyer
                          LG - Hamilton / Rhineheart
                          C - Rabach / Edwin Williams
                          RG - Dockery / Pitts
                          RT - Jones / Veldheer

                          DE - Carter / Alexander
                          DT - Haynesworth / Montgomery
                          DT - Brown / Gholston
                          DE - Orakpo / Jarmon / Jackson
                          OLB - Bullock / Wilson
                          ILB - Fletcher / Blades
                          OLB - McCintosh / Cole
                          CB - Hall / Tryon
                          CB - Rogers / Smoot / Barnes
                          FS - Berry / Moore
                          SS - Horton / Doughty
                          Last edited by DiG; 01-08-2010, 03:40 PM.

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                          • I wish we had around the 7th or 8th pick because damn I have loved Rolando McClain so damn much for so long. Drafting a LB though top 5 is risky. I will say though that even though his draft grade won't be a high, I like McClain more than Aaron Curry. I think McClain is a pro bowl candidate day 1.

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                            • Originally posted by Dirty Thirty View Post
                              Mock Offseason - Uncapped

                              Retire
                              QB Todd Collins
                              OT Chris Samuels

                              Cut
                              RB Clinton Portis
                              WR Antwaan Randle El
                              OG Randy Thomas
                              RB Ladell Betts
                              DT Cornelius Griffin

                              Tender
                              QB Jason Campbell (1st round)
                              CB Carlos Rogers (2nd round)
                              DT Anthony Montgomery (6th round drafted)

                              Resign
                              OLB Rocky McCintosh
                              DT Kedric Gholston
                              OT Levi Jones

                              Sign
                              OG Ben Hamilton - Denver
                              QB Sage Rosenfels - Minnesota (assuming cut)
                              RB Willie Parker - Pittsburgh
                              DT Tony Brown - Tennessee (experience playing with big al)
                              WR Antonio Bryant - Tampa (huge productivity with kyle shanahan)
                              OLB Keith Bullock - Tennessee (final chance to make a little cash)
                              OG Chester Pitts - Houston (experience with kyle and cheap depth)

                              Trade
                              Laron Landry to Minnesota for 2nd round pick

                              Draft
                              RD 1 - Eric Berry, FS, Tenn
                              RD 2 - Charles Brown, OT, USC
                              RD 2 - Montario Hardesty, RB, Tenn
                              RD 4 - Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
                              RD 6 - Justin Cole, OLB, San Jose State

                              Depth Chart
                              QB - Campbell / Brennan / Rosenfels
                              RB - Parker / Hardesty / Ganther
                              FB - Sellers
                              WR1 - Moss / Bryant / Mitchell
                              WR2 - Thomas / Kelly
                              TE - Cooley / Davis / Yoder
                              LT - Charles Brown / Heyer
                              LG - Hamilton / Rhineheart
                              C - Rabach / Edwin Williams
                              RG - Dockery / Pitts
                              RT - Jones / Veldheer

                              DE - Carter / Alexander
                              DT - Haynesworth / Montgomery
                              DT - Brown / Gholston
                              DE - Orakpo / Daniels / Jackson
                              OLB - Bullock / Wilson
                              ILB - Fletcher / Blades
                              OLB - McCintosh / Cole
                              CB - Hall / Tryon
                              CB - Rogers / Smoot / Barnes
                              FS - Berry / Moore
                              SS - Horton / Doughty
                              Good stuff. I'll provide more comments later but you forgot Jarmon @ De (instead of Daniels maybe?)
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                              • Originally posted by Canadian_draft_fan View Post
                                Good stuff. I'll provide more comments later but you forgot Jarmon @ De (instead of Daniels maybe?)
                                good catch. fixed it.

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