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  • UCSC Banana Slugs vs. Texas State Bobcats

    This is a college draft. Which team has the better college talent. Nothing to do with NFL talent but how well they play at the college level. Any player that was injured in the first two games are not in this.



    QB - Colt McCoy
    RB - Kenny Irons
    WR - Jeff Samardizja
    WR - Desean Jackson
    WR - Steve Smith
    WR - Percy Harvin
    LT - Joe Thomas
    OG - Manuel Ramirez
    C - Ryan Kalil
    OG - Steve Rehring
    RT - Levi Brown

    DE - Ray McDonald
    DT - Justin Harrell
    DT - Brandon Mebane
    DE - Tim Crowder
    OLB - Paul Posluzsny
    MLB - Ray Maualuga
    OLB - Phillip Wheeler
    CB - Marcus McCauley
    S - Myron Rolle
    S - John Wendling
    CB - Tarell Brown




    QB Drew Stanton, Michigan State
    WB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma
    FB Brian Leonard, Rutgers
    WB Ian Johnson, Boise State
    TE Matt Spaeth, Minnesota
    SE Chansi Stuckey, Clemson
    LT Alex Boone, Ohio State
    LG Kasey Studdard, Texas
    C Dan Mozes, West Virginia
    RG Corey Hilliard, Oklahoma State
    RT Chris Messner, Oklahoma



    RE Dan Bazuin, Central Michigan
    NT Amobi Okoye, Louisville
    UT Marcus Thomas, ex-Florida
    LE Brian Robison, Texas
    WLB Xavier Adibi, Virginia Tech
    ILB Justin Warren, Texas A&M
    SLB Keith Rivers, Southern Cal
    CB Aaron Ross, Texas
    CB Fred Bennett, South Carolina
    S Kenny Phillips, Miami
    S Tom Zbikowski, Notre Dame

    Head Coach: Gene Chizik


    In case it's not obvious, Texas State will be running the triple-option out of the wishbone formation. Drew Stanton is a tough runner who can take a pounding, so I am confident with him as my quarterback. His first option will be to give it to the fullback, Brian Leonard. He can fake that instead and keep it himself. Depending on which side he goes to, he will have the option of pitching it to Adrian Peterson or Ian Johnson. Both are tough, touchdown machines. Matt Spaeth is a great blocker, as well as being very productive catching the ball and won the best tight end award this season. Chansi Stuckey is a burner who will be used to stretch the field occasionally to keep defenses honest, as well as on reverses. My offensive line has 3 of the Big XII's finest as well as a damn good LT in Alex Boone, and the best center in college football Dan Mozes. My defense is led by Justin Warren, a physical specimen and force against the run. He's flanked by Keith Rivers and Xavier Adibi, two physical FREAKS who are always around the ball. My line is perfectly balanced with a great 4-3 nose in Okoye and THE best 4-3 under tackle in Thomas. Bazuin is an elite pass rusher, while Robison is an underrated and well-rounded end in his own right. Aaron Ross is the most polished player out of a talented Texas secondary, and Fred Bennett is often overlooked because of the lack of talent on his defense. Kenny Phillips and Zbi are absolutely killers. Zbi will stay more in the box, but both are flexible enough that I don't need either to be a true free or strong safety.

    That is correct comahan
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  • #2
    I'll take McCoy with that ridiculous 4 receiver set. That team just has better overall talent. I like the secondary of Texas St. though.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by duckseason
      I'll take McCoy with that ridiculous 4 receiver set. That team just has better overall talent. I like the secondary of Texas St. though.
      Yeah so he has an advantage with a 4 receiver set, but I have no advantage from running the option? Get over your bias.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ward
        Originally posted by duckseason
        I'll take McCoy with that ridiculous 4 receiver set. That team just has better overall talent. I like the secondary of Texas St. though.
        Yeah so he has an advantage with a 4 receiver set, but I have no advantage from running the option? Get over your bias.
        Bias? Just stating my opinion. The other team just looks to have more talent. With that offensive line, and those WR's, the passing game is nearly unstoppable. I like your secondary/overall defense though. I just think his offense outshines yours by more than your defense outshines his. Just a simple opinion on something completely trivial.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by duckseason
          Originally posted by Ward
          Originally posted by duckseason
          I'll take McCoy with that ridiculous 4 receiver set. That team just has better overall talent. I like the secondary of Texas St. though.
          Yeah so he has an advantage with a 4 receiver set, but I have no advantage from running the option? Get over your bias.
          Bias? Just stating my opinion. The other team just looks to have more talent. With that offensive line, and those WR's, the passing game is nearly unstoppable. I like your secondary/overall defense though. I just think his offense outshines yours by more than your defense outshines his. Just a simple opinion on something completely trivial.
          There are dozens of teams that run the spread, it's not that big a deal. Teams see it all the time. His offensive line is WASTED by not having a running game to speak of, and McCoy would be a JOKE going against any defense in this competition. Very few teams are prepared for the triple-option, and I have the perfect personnel to run it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ward
            Originally posted by duckseason
            Originally posted by Ward
            Originally posted by duckseason
            I'll take McCoy with that ridiculous 4 receiver set. That team just has better overall talent. I like the secondary of Texas St. though.
            Yeah so he has an advantage with a 4 receiver set, but I have no advantage from running the option? Get over your bias.
            Bias? Just stating my opinion. The other team just looks to have more talent. With that offensive line, and those WR's, the passing game is nearly unstoppable. I like your secondary/overall defense though. I just think his offense outshines yours by more than your defense outshines his. Just a simple opinion on something completely trivial.
            There are dozens of teams that run the spread, it's not that big a deal. Teams see it all the time. His offensive line is WASTED by not having a running game to speak of, and McCoy would be a JOKE going against any defense in this competition. Very few teams are prepared for the triple-option, and I have the perfect personnel to run it.
            Good for you. So when's the big game? I'm intersested to see if that triple option can keep up with the 50+ points that other team would put up on a weekly basis. How are his tackles being wasted when they're giving McCoy all day to choose which of his 4 stud WR's to throw to? A better question is- why do they need a running game? Oh, and you don't think Irons could gash through a spread out defense? Just chill out man. Are you going to jump all over every person who likes the other team better?

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            • #7
              Ward, yelling at a guy for having an opinion is a dick move. (and yes, I would argue this even if he voted for your team.)

              Secondly, you can delete my vote for my team. I'm tired, I clicked on the wrong thread. (that is, unless Ward boted for his team.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by duckseason
                Originally posted by Ward
                Originally posted by duckseason
                Originally posted by Ward
                Originally posted by duckseason
                I'll take McCoy with that ridiculous 4 receiver set. That team just has better overall talent. I like the secondary of Texas St. though.
                Yeah so he has an advantage with a 4 receiver set, but I have no advantage from running the option? Get over your bias.
                Bias? Just stating my opinion. The other team just looks to have more talent. With that offensive line, and those WR's, the passing game is nearly unstoppable. I like your secondary/overall defense though. I just think his offense outshines yours by more than your defense outshines his. Just a simple opinion on something completely trivial.
                There are dozens of teams that run the spread, it's not that big a deal. Teams see it all the time. His offensive line is WASTED by not having a running game to speak of, and McCoy would be a JOKE going against any defense in this competition. Very few teams are prepared for the triple-option, and I have the perfect personnel to run it.
                Good for you. So when's the big game? I'm intersested to see if that triple option can keep up with the 50+ points that other team would put up on a weekly basis. How are his tackles being wasted when they're giving McCoy all day to choose which of his 4 stud WR's to throw to? A better question is- why do they need a running game? Oh, and you don't think Irons could gash through a spread out defense? Just chill out man. Are you going to jump all over every person who likes the other team better?
                I apologize for defending my team and attempting to persuade people to vote for me. Clearly, that's not what this is about. :roll:

                McCoy is garbage compared to any other QB in this league. Stanton isn't the best, but he won't be throwing as much as he does in real life. If you don't understand that we didn't get to draft backups, then I can't help you and every spread team will win. None of us have 3rd or 4th corners. You're giving a spread team an arbitrary advantage because you live in Texas and probably like McCoy.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bigrick0016
                  Ward, yelling at a guy for having an opinion is a dick move.


                  Secondly, you can delete my vote for my team. I'm tired, I clicked on the wrong thread. (that is, unless Ward boted for his team.
                  Can't delete/add votes to polls. It's not an admin/mod power.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ward
                    Originally posted by bigrick0016
                    Ward, yelling at a guy for having an opinion is a dick move.


                    Secondly, you can delete my vote for my team. I'm tired, I clicked on the wrong thread. (that is, unless Ward boted for his team.
                    Can't delete/add votes to polls. It's not an admin/mod power.
                    assume I have 1 less vote then. If we end tied, you can have it. If I win by 1, we're tied. Or, you can just vote for your team and it'll be even

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ward
                      Originally posted by duckseason
                      Originally posted by Ward
                      Originally posted by duckseason
                      Originally posted by Ward
                      Originally posted by duckseason
                      I'll take McCoy with that ridiculous 4 receiver set. That team just has better overall talent. I like the secondary of Texas St. though.
                      Yeah so he has an advantage with a 4 receiver set, but I have no advantage from running the option? Get over your bias.
                      Bias? Just stating my opinion. The other team just looks to have more talent. With that offensive line, and those WR's, the passing game is nearly unstoppable. I like your secondary/overall defense though. I just think his offense outshines yours by more than your defense outshines his. Just a simple opinion on something completely trivial.
                      There are dozens of teams that run the spread, it's not that big a deal. Teams see it all the time. His offensive line is WASTED by not having a running game to speak of, and McCoy would be a JOKE going against any defense in this competition. Very few teams are prepared for the triple-option, and I have the perfect personnel to run it.
                      Good for you. So when's the big game? I'm intersested to see if that triple option can keep up with the 50+ points that other team would put up on a weekly basis. How are his tackles being wasted when they're giving McCoy all day to choose which of his 4 stud WR's to throw to? A better question is- why do they need a running game? Oh, and you don't think Irons could gash through a spread out defense? Just chill out man. Are you going to jump all over every person who likes the other team better?
                      I apologize for defending my team and attempting to persuade people to vote for me. Clearly, that's not what this is about. :roll:

                      McCoy is garbage compared to any other QB in this league. Stanton isn't the best, but he won't be throwing as much as he does in real life. If you don't understand that we didn't get to draft backups, then I can't help you and every spread team will win. None of us have 3rd or 4th corners. You're giving a spread team an arbitrary advantage because you live in Texas and probably like McCoy.
                      Well, I thought you were the one who lived in Texas, but that is irrelevant. It's cool that you're defending your team, it just kinda seems a bit too fierce. You sounded like you were responding to somebody who was attacking the quality of your team, when in fact I complimented both squads in my initial post. There are things I like about your team, but I just think the other squad would be a tougher matchup for the average college team. My opinion wasn't based on the fact that they run the spread either. It's based on the personnel involved. I just think that team is more talented.

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                      • #12
                        It is tight, definitely a close game. With Adrian Peterson, Brian Leonard AND Ian Johnson though, that is pretty crazy. It would be really hard to defend all three, and I'm not exactly sure about the Slugs upfront. That being said, the O-lines for the Slugs is really good in comparison to Texas State. Both defenses are pretty good, and Texas State definitely has the secondary to keep up, and the DTs to keep Irons in definite check. I give a slight slight edge to texas State based on the running talent (combined with Spaeth,) as well as me thinking that the Slugs would be a bit one dimensional passing the football. I'm not a huge Irons fan, so that may have swayed me. It's tight, I like Ward and Rick/Sarf a lot though, both had good drafts.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JBond93
                          With Adrian Peterson, Brian Leonard AND Ian Johnson though, that is pretty crazy. It would be really hard to defend all three
                          Technically 4 since Stanton is the second option to run. The progression is this:

                          1: Stanton decides to keep or give to Leonard
                          2: If he keeps, he runs it himself
                          3: Depending on which side he goes to he'll have the third option to pitch it to either 24 TD Ian Johnson or "All Day" Adrian Peterson.

                          That is the basic play that our offense would use. Now of course you have the occasional option pass to Spaeth or Stuckey, reverse to Stuckey, etc. But that is basically what we're running all the time. It's why Navy is still competitive, because most teams have no clue how to defend it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ward
                            Originally posted by JBond93
                            With Adrian Peterson, Brian Leonard AND Ian Johnson though, that is pretty crazy. It would be really hard to defend all three
                            Technically 4 since Stanton is the second option to run. The progression is this:

                            1: Stanton decides to keep or give to Leonard
                            2: If he keeps, he runs it himself
                            3: Depending on which side he goes to he'll have the third option to pitch it to either 24 TD Ian Johnson or "All Day" Adrian Peterson.

                            That is the basic play that our offense would use. Now of course you have the occasional option pass to Spaeth or Stuckey, reverse to Stuckey, etc. But that is basically what we're running all the time. It's why Navy is still competitive, because most teams have no clue how to defend it.
                            I'm bamboozled just thinking about it.

                            That is correct comahan
                            I ******* LOVE YOU DG
                            <3 dg

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                            • #15
                              Edge To Ward -

                              Ward's defense has enough power to keep that offense in check, honestly lemme guess, you're gonna pass it; i'm right aren't I ? One dimensional offenses get destroied by phoenominal defenses (for phoenominal defenses see above defense of Ward). Ward has two of the premier safety's at the collegiate level, and the best corner also. Not that Slug's o-line is bad, but if they're going to be seeing aggressive blitzes from smart football players, it's not going to be an easy game. Not to down Slug's D, it's decent, but the only bright spot is his secondary, and I don't see him being able to stop the triple-option, at all. Brian Leonard + Adrian Peterson = headache.
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