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  • Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
    I dont see anything disturbing in his work...How can you claim that Charlie Kaufman is ****** up, when you have all kinds of horror movies out there like Saw? Kaufman is an intellect. Instead of expressing his fear of death, sickness, dying, existentialism, religion, and all the other thoughts Synechdoche encompasses through a stupid movie or by "going to therapy" as you said, he produced a piece of art which touched me, and I know others, in a way that few pieces of art can. I think before you call Charlie Kaufman messed up, look around Hollywood. Hes unique, imaginative, and not afraid to blend fantasy with reality, but I would not call him messed up. Other then Synechdoche, which admittedly is a dark film, has lead you to believe he is ****** up?
    Everyone is ****** up in one way or another. Find me one great artist who isn't ****** up. They all are, it is almost a prerequisite to making great art. Not that there is anything wrong with being ****** up. Hell, I think ****** up people are by far the most interesting, intelligent, awesome people I have ever met.

    I honestly believe that if you have a great intellect you are going to be ****** up. You can't be an incredibly smart person and be ok with what happens in the world, you always believe you can figure out a way to help fix it.
    I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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    • Originally posted by JHG722 View Post
      All of his other movies? I believe he said something about part of his life being written into his movies. The fact that he's never in the public. Something related to his life growing up.

      I'm not sure, but the guy can write damn well, so I really dont care if he's messed up or not haha
      I dont see anything wrong with him not wanting to be in the public eye. There is nothing wrong with wanting to retain privacy and some sense of security.

      And of course part of him is written into his movies. Adaptation is based on his own experiences. Hell, the lead character's name in Adaptation is Charlie Kaufman. I still dont see how that makes him a messed up individual. I admire him for not adhering to the boring, formulaic style of filmmaking that is everywhere nowadays.

      Being John Malkovich, Adaptation, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind dont make me think messed up, or disturbed, or in need of therapy. I can understand how Synecdoche may make you think he is disturbed, but if you think about it rationally, many of the fears that are displayed in Synecdoche are very real fears, Kaufman just expresses them in an extreme way. I know I share many of his fears and opinions on many of the things he expressed in the film. I think he expressed very real fears that many so called normal people see and feel everyday. But hey, you can call him weird. I admire him.

      Originally posted by The Peefs View Post
      blah blah blah blah. Im a film douche, my opinion on films & directors is law. I study film. Disagreeing with me ABOUT film is morally wrong and unacceptable.

      Did I mention blah blah blah?
      Thank you for contributing something wholly intelligent to the discussion. In fact, I feel so much more knowledgeable after reading your pathetic spiel...But I'm glad you took time out of your day to attempt to insult me.

      Originally posted by someone447 View Post
      Everyone is ****** up in one way or another. Find me one great artist who isn't ****** up. They all are, it is almost a prerequisite to making great art. Not that there is anything wrong with being ****** up. Hell, I think ****** up people are by far the most interesting, intelligent, awesome people I have ever met.

      I honestly believe that if you have a great intellect you are going to be ****** up. You can't be an incredibly smart person and be ok with what happens in the world, you always believe you can figure out a way to help fix it.
      I just think its sad that a great artist like Charlie Kaufman is referenced to as ****** up, when in reality, I think the world needs alot more people like him around.
      Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
      The APS is strong in this one.
      Originally posted by killxswitch
      Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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      • That last sentence isn't really contradictory, HST was ****** up was a great boon to humanity, a lot of our greatest people are "****** up" abnormality just comes with the territory when we're talking true and genuine genius.

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        • Originally posted by Mr. Hero View Post
          That last sentence isn't really contradictory, HST was ****** up was a great boon to humanity, a lot of our greatest people are "****** up" abnormality just comes with the territory when we're talking true and genuine genius.
          Exactly, being ****** up isn't necessarily a negative thing. You pretty much have to be ****** up to make art that touches people. Read a book written by someone who doesn't have emotional issues, I would be willing to bet you find it boring and tedious. No read a book by someone who is fighting their own mind everyday, I bet you will enjoy it a hell of a lot more.
          I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
          Hunter S. Thompson

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          • Originally posted by The Peefs View Post
            blah blah blah blah. Im a film douche, my opinion on films & directors is law. I study film. Disagreeing with me ABOUT film is morally wrong and unacceptable.

            Did I mention blah blah blah?
            Haha, and you asked why we like you around here?

            Pick the Winners Champion 2008 | 2011

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            • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
              Dreadul movie. yuck. I didnt even care for Van Wilder, though.
              I agree, Van Wilder was bad. They haven't had a good National Lampoons movie in a long time :(

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              • Originally posted by Brent View Post
                Haha, and you asked why we like you around here?
                I dont see it...
                Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
                The APS is strong in this one.
                Originally posted by killxswitch
                Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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                • Moral of the story: ****** up people are way more interesting than normal people.

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                  • Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
                    I dont see it...
                    That's because you called you a 'film douche' and you took offense. I was sure you studied literature or some BS like that, but regardless, I find Peefs to be funny at times.

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                    • Originally posted by Brent View Post
                      That's because you called you a 'film douche' and you took offense. I was sure you studied literature or some BS like that, but regardless, I find Peefs to be funny at times.
                      This makes no sense. And I do study literature lol. That guy is more then welcome to defend his argument. I was just stating my opinion in an argumentative way to stimulate discussion. Apparently that guy isnt capable of contributing, so he just insults. Im sure hes funny at times though.
                      Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
                      The APS is strong in this one.
                      Originally posted by killxswitch
                      Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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                      • Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
                        This makes no sense. And I do study literature lol. That guy is more then welcome to defend his argument. I was just stating my opinion in an argumentative way to stimulate discussion. Apparently that guy isnt capable of contributing, so he just insults. I'm sure hes funny at times though.
                        YOU FORGOT THE APOSTROPHE! ^_^

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                        • lol APS, constantly playing up his HOLIER THAN THOU persona when it comes to movies.

                          Oh god, did i say movies? I meant "FILMS", please dont hate me for saying movies!

                          But really,

                          "Apparently that guy isnt capable of contributing, so he just insults. I'm sure hes funny at times though."

                          is hilarious. Since most of what you do APS, is just call people ******* idiots when they disagree with you.

                          And then you bring up how you study film.
                          Last edited by comahan; 04-08-2009, 12:46 PM.




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                          • Well in APS' defense, torture porn movies are annoying and worthless.


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                            • Originally posted by Brodeur View Post
                              Well in APS' defense, torture porn movies are annoying and worthless.
                              Pssh, says you. Just because I want to see celebrity snuff on my phone doesn't mean you have to diss the entire genre.

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                              • Originally posted by comahan View Post
                                lol APS, constantly playing up his HOLIER THAN THOU persona when it comes to movies.

                                Oh god, did i say movies? I meant "FILMS", please dont hate me for saying movies!

                                But really,

                                "Apparently that guy isnt capable of contributing, so he just insults. I'm sure hes funny at times though."

                                is hilarious. Since most of what you do APS, is just call people ******* idiots when they disagree with you.

                                And then you bring up how you study film.
                                Well to be fair, my argument almost always has some sort of backing to it...I rarely call people idiots and then dont defend what I say. And I just say film as a habit, it isnt like I have ever crucified you or anyone for saying movies. And i said nothing about studying film anywhere in this little exchange. In fact, that guy assumed it.

                                And thank you Brodeur. Really, who wants to watch Hostel? Really?
                                Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
                                The APS is strong in this one.
                                Originally posted by killxswitch
                                Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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