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  • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
    John Hollinger's take on the whole thing.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...PERDiem-090513
    Yet, all of those guys took more shots than Howard and nobody shot for a better FG percentage.

    Surprising, Hollinger being a stats guy missed that. Yeah... everyone else outside of Dwight was sooooo effective. Nice one.

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    • Lakers are so full of win.

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      • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
        Yet, all of those guys took more shots than Howard and nobody shot for a better FG percentage.

        Surprising, Hollinger being a stats guy missed that. Yeah... everyone else outside of Dwight was sooooo effective. Nice one.
        ugh...Howard is a center. He's always going to shoot at a higher percentage for the game. Because, he shoots so close and mostly dunks. But he was useless in one on one isolations. Meaning you cant go to him in late in the 4th quarter. He's just going to continue to get shut down. Hollinger nailed it so, if you cant see that coming from a guy like him, I dont know how else to convice you otherwise.

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        • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
          He doesnt take advantage of mismatches? What series are you watching? He has been doing just that with Rashard and Hedo. And Lee on House. Battie against their bigs. And yes Howard/Perkins. Perkins has been a mismatch for Howard. So, he doesnt deserve the ball. Hey we've tried to get the ball to him and he has been embarrassed.
          I take that back. He has done that. Everything else, he's guilty of.

          We all acknowledge that Dwight's offensive game is lacking, but that does not mean you don't give him the ball. Shots taken in the post are high percentage shots. 6 for 25 from 3 point land and Dwight should be the only one embarrassed??? Really? Somewhere Hedo Turkoglu is not saying a peep.

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          • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
            I take that back. He has done that. Everything else, he's guilty of.

            We all acknowledge that Dwight's offensive game is lacking, but that does not mean you don't give him the ball. Shots taken in the post are high percentage shots. 6 for 25 from 3 point land and Dwight should be the only one embarrassed??? Really? Somewhere Hedo Turkoglu is not saying a peep.
            But D, you've been watching. Dwight isnt taking high percentage shots. He's taking running hook shots from nearly the free throw line and there is no reason to believe that will change because, he cannot move Perk or Davis.

            Hedo has been off and on...mostly off but, he was actually very good yesterday. Poor from the 3 point line but, he was driving to the net beautifully and his passes were on point and he wasnt turning the ball over. He was fine yesterday. He shot 50% from the field and had 7 assists.

            We need him driving more late in games instead of jacking up threes. Rashard should be featured more and Lee/Pietrus should also be trying to get to the rim.

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            • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
              ugh...Howard is a center. He's always going to shoot at a higher percentage for the game. Because, he shoots so close and mostly dunks. But he was useless in one on one isolations. Meaning you cant go to him in late in the 4th quarter. He's just going to continue to get shut down. Hollinger nailed it so, if you cant see that coming from a guy like him, I dont know how else to convice you otherwise.
              We didn't go to him late in the 4th quarter. So how are you blaming Howard? He didn't get passed the ball at all in the entire 4th quarter. His only score was off a rebound. Oh wait..SVG finally called for him to get the ball on the final inbounds so that Boston could foul him... that was a good idea cause Howad is so good at FTs. LOL. Once again, brilliant coaching. You would've thought he would say give it to anyone except Dwight in that situation right? Oh nevermind that, he's a good coach.

              What are you trying to convince me of? That even when our outside shots aren't falling that we still need to keep shooting and should never under any circumstance at all pass the ball to Dwight?

              Do you know how frustrating it must be for Dwight to grab 17 rebounds and be the best defender on the team, yet never get the ball on the offensive side of the court? Anyone who has played basketball on any level can understand how much that sucks.

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              • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                We didn't go to him late in the 4th quarter. So how are you blaming Howard? He didn't get passed the ball at all in the entire 4th quarter. His only score was off a rebound. Oh wait..SVG finally called for him to get the ball on the final inbounds so that Boston could foul him... that was a good idea cause Howad is so good at FTs. LOL. Once again, brilliant coaching. You would've thought he would say give it to anyone except Dwight in that situation right? Oh nevermind that, he's a good coach.

                What are you trying to convince me of? That even when our outside shots aren't falling that we still need to keep shooting and should never under any circumstance at all pass the ball to Dwight?

                Do you know how frustrating it must be for Dwight to grab 17 rebounds and be the best defender on the team, yet never get the ball on the offensive side of the court? Anyone who has played basketball on any level can understand how much that sucks.
                Howard wasnt supposed to get that ball on the in bound obviously. The guys breaking just never got loose. They struggle to do so, like they always do. Rashard has had a bunch of fouls prior to the inbound because he runs guys over. It's always sloppy.

                As for Dwight...he has proven time and time again that he can not be counted on late in games. What makes you think anything would change with him getting the ball late? Perkins is just going to keep him out of the paint like he has done every time they play and force him to throw up junk.

                Dwight's defensive game is a lot better than his offensive game. And he was bad on both ends yesterday. With his offensive game being so poor...that should drive him to crank up the defense, actually.

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                • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                  But D, you've been watching. Dwight isnt taking high percentage shots. He's taking running hook shots from nearly the free throw line and there is no reason to believe that will change because, he cannot move Perk or Davis.

                  Hedo has been off and on...mostly off but, he was actually very good yesterday. Poor from the 3 point line but, he was driving to the net beautifully and his passes were on point and he wasnt turning the ball over. He was fine yesterday. He shot 50% from the field and had 7 assists.

                  We need him driving more late in games instead of jacking up threes. Rashard should be featured more and Lee/Pietrus should also be trying to get to the rim.
                  I love the driving Hedo. I hate the one jacking up empty 3s. Hedo is one of our best slashers.

                  Dwight take some ugly shots, but not all of them are bad. Fact is, he gets crucified much more because he's taking shots that are close to the rim. Hedo misses 5 3s and nothing is said. Had Dwight missed 5 shots around the rim, you'd see nothing but those misses all over sportscenter.

                  I have to take a second and hate on Rafer too. He's taken on the mindset that he's a key scorer recently and that's also hurt us. If Chris Paul was on this team, Dwight would be taking easy high percentage shots up the ying yang. Too bad we don't have that guy yet.

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                  • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                    I love the driving Hedo. I hate the one jacking up empty 3s. Hedo is one of our best slashers.

                    Dwight take some ugly shots, but not all of them are bad. Fact is, he gets crucified much more because he's taking shots that are close to the rim. Hedo misses 5 3s and nothing is said. Had Dwight missed 5 shots around the rim, you'd see nothing but those misses all over sportscenter.

                    I have to take a second and hate on Rafer too. He's taken on the mindset that he's a key scorer recently and that's also hurt us. If Chris Paul was on this team, Dwight would be taking easy high percentage shots up the ying yang. Too bad we don't have that guy yet.
                    nah. Nearly all of Dwights shots were awful. The others were dunks and he was the benificiary here, he wasnt creating his own shot. He cant even get close to the rim so, he is useless from that far out. He's also stubborn, though. So instead of finding the wide open Lee or Lewis for three, he'll continue to throw up brick after brick. He's bashing Stan for not trusting his players. How about Howard trust his teammates? He has no interest in passing anymore.

                    I have no problem with you hating on Rafer. The guy is taking bad shots. He's extremely streaky. Good at pushing the ball but, his shot selection and his lack of finishing skills have absolutely killed us.
                    Last edited by M.O.T.H.; 05-13-2009, 03:22 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                      Howard wasnt supposed to get that ball on the in bound obviously. The guys breaking just never got loose. They struggle to do so, like they always do. Rashard has had a bunch of fouls prior to the inbound because he runs guys over. It's always sloppy.

                      As for Dwight...he has proven time and time again that he can not be counted on late in games. What makes you think anything would change with him getting the ball late? Perkins is just going to keep him out of the paint like he has done every time they play and force him to throw up junk.

                      Dwight's defensive game is a lot better than his offensive game. And he was bad on both ends yesterday. With his offensive game being so poor...that should drive him to crank up the defense, actually.
                      So if Dwight does get the ball in that situation, I blame the coach. The guys not being able to get loose is just another poor example of coaching. He can't even call a play to get the ball inbounded correctly. Pathetic.

                      When am I saying get Dwight the ball late? I'm saying get him involved throughout the game. 10 touches isn't enough. I'm sorry. 12 isn't enough either.

                      Dwight's defense wasn't bad. It wasn't his usual self, but c'mon... Who was guarding Big Baby who was the game's highest scorer? I would like to hear you utter that player's name.

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                      • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                        nah. Nearly all of Dwights shots were awful. The others were dunks and he was the benificiary here, he wasnt creating his own shot. He cant even get close to the rim so, he is useless from that far out. He's also stubborn, though. So instead of finding the wide open Lee or Lewis for three, he'll continue to throw up brick after brick. He's bashing Stan for not trusting his players. How about Howard trust his teammates. He has no interest in passing anymore.

                        I have no problem with you hating on Rafer. The guy is taking bad shots. He's extremely streaky. Good at pushing the ball but, his shot selection and his lack of finishing skills has absolutely killed us.
                        If you only touch the ball 10 times, you really think he's going to want to pass?

                        But ok, if Dwight's not passing to the open guy and not hitting his shots... shouldn't there be someone, like a coach for example, telling Dwight to move the ball around? Or if Dwight is frustrated for not seeing the ball touch his hands, don't you think it's the coaches job to tell the players to move the ball around? Just piss poor coaching.

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                        • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                          So if Dwight does get the ball in that situation, I blame the coach. The guys not being able to get loose is just another poor example of coaching. He can't even call a play to get the ball inbounded correctly. Pathetic.

                          When am I saying get Dwight the ball late? I'm saying get him involved throughout the game. 10 touches isn't enough. I'm sorry. 12 isn't enough either.

                          Dwight's defense wasn't bad. It wasn't his usual self, but c'mon... Who was guarding Big Baby who was the game's highest scorer? I would like to hear you utter that player's name.
                          His defense wasnt bad? He was letting Big Baby and smaller players have a free shot to the lane. He was trying to avoid foul trouble. He didnt even put his hands up at all. He was playing so soft it was ridiculous. It's easy to tell when Howard isnt giving it his all and he was in no way giving it everything he had. He looks like he's reverting back to the guy who only cared about offense until Stan got him thinking defensively.

                          rashard was not always on Davis. The guy was all over the court. Rashard, Hedo, Battie, Gortat, Howard. They were all on him and Howard played him like a *****, for lack of a better term. I love Dwight but, to call the coaching staff out and make demands after how he's played this series is just so insanely hilarious to me.

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                          • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                            If you only touch the ball 10 times, you really think he's going to want to pass?

                            But ok, if Dwight's not passing to the open guy and not hitting his shots... shouldn't there be someone, like a coach for example, telling Dwight to move the ball around? Or if Dwight is frustrated for not seeing the ball touch his hands, don't you think it's the coaches job to tell the players to move the ball around? Just piss poor coaching.
                            How do we know Dwight even listens to SVG anymore? You cant place all this blame on SVG. I guess Howard really can do no wrong. geez.

                            And live broadcasts always go into the huddle. SVG always says the right things but, the players dont always respond. If he's lost them, he's lost them. It wouldnt matter how much he demanded or pleaded.

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                            • Originally posted by fenikz View Post
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                              • Originally posted by CC.SD View Post
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