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  • Originally posted by P-L View Post
    Can a Lakers fan explain to me what their accomplishments over the past two seasons has to do with this season?
    Nothing. At all.

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    • Originally posted by P-L View Post
      Can a Lakers fan explain to me what their accomplishments over the past two seasons has to do with this season?
      I just dont know how anyone can tag them as being overrated when they are playing as poorly as they are right now.

      Im a huge laker fan and im pretty ****** pissed with how they are playing right now, they arent the top dawg that they usually are....


      ....so instead of overrated, i would go more for the side of them being underrated right now. We will really find out more about the Lakers when they come back from the all star break.



      Originally posted by 49erNation85
      I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.

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      • Ok, just checking.

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        • It's a weird situation to look at. People calling them overrated are using the fact that they're the two time defending champs as reason why they're overrated (cause they're playing like ass right now). But if you call them the two time defending champs and say they're the top dogs until they're bumped off, it's all of a sudden an illogical argument.

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          • They're overrated because people were penciling them in as WC champs before the season and even now when they're not playing well at all.

            That is correct comahan
            I ******* LOVE YOU DG
            <3 dg

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            • As of right now or lately, who has penciled them in as WC champs? Cause i sure as hell haven't seen it.

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              • Meant now as in a few weeks ago before they lost to the Bobcats and Cavs. That might have just been the Laker fans on here and ESPN though.

                That is correct comahan
                I ******* LOVE YOU DG
                <3 dg

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                • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                  Devin Harris blows anyway...but I wouldnt trade him to the Blazers unless I was getting Patty Mills in there somewhere. Acquiring Miller would just be to clear more cap room.

                  If I'm trading a youthful PG, I wouldnt want to do it for cap room. I'd want some young/redeemable talent back, at least. That said, having his and Przy's expiring contracts wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
                  Actually Harris has been playing pretty well and I'd hate to give him away.
                  but I do love me some Patty Mills...mmm
                  We ALL bleed scarlet
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                  UNITED: I actually attend the college I root for
                  Originally posted by PalmerToCJ
                  BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.

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                  • So are the Heat overrated for people tagging them as winning the east this year and 7 championships, when they havent even beat the celtics, let alone even played for a championship yet?

                    And we are bowing down to the greatness of the heat?



                    Originally posted by 49erNation85
                    I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.

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                    • Originally posted by SickwithIt1010 View Post
                      So are the Heat overrated for people tagging them as winning the east this year and 7 championships, when they havent even beat the celtics, let alone even played for a championship yet?

                      And we are bowing down to the greatness of the heat?
                      They were at the beginning of the year for sure.(by myself included)

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                      • Notable tidbits from Bill Simmons' trade chart

                        49. Derrick Favors, Brook Lopez (tie)
                        It's all about Favors having an "NBA body" right now; we're not allowed to rush to a final judgment even though a 19-year-old lottery pick is forgettable night after night after night in a Kwame-ish way. I caught him twice in person: He bombed the "If I'm Seeing You Live, No Matter How Young You Are, I Shouldn't Be Able to Zone Out And Forget That You're Allegedly Doing Your Specialty In Front Of Me" test. (Important note: Same goes for Broadway actors, musicians, belly dancers, comedians, politicians and chefs at those Japanese restaurants at which they cook for 10-12 people at a time.) It's not like he's any younger than DeMarcus Cousins. Shouldn't Favors be showing something by now?

                        As for Lopez, he stopped rebounding (8.1 as a rookie, 8.7 in Year 2, 5.7 this season), stopped attacking the rim (6.6 shots at the rim last season, 4.3 this season) and plays with the enthusiasm of someone who just got dumped by his girlfriend and wants the game to end as soon as possible so he can go home and fill a pink iPod with sappy love songs for her. I would have bounced him off the list entirely, but there's a small chance Avery Johnson's voice is affecting him the same way Mary Hart's voice affected Kramer.
                        46. DeMarcus Cousins
                        So rarely in sports does someone live up to the hype. We thought Notorious D.M.C. could be a dominant scorer/rebounder AND a once-in-a-generation head case who immediately polarized fans and media members … yes and yes! In the past three weeks alone, he dropped a 27-10 on the Lakers, a 25-14 on Utah, a 19-15 on Dallas and a few punches on teammate Donte Greene's head, then subsequently got banned from a team plane and suspended. I want the opposite of a full refund for the DMC Experience. I'd like to pay twice. Let's run it back. And by the way? If I were a GM, I'd be calling Sacramento every day trying to get him. Repeat: Every day. You just never know when you might catch Geoff Petrie in a moment of weakness. It's coming.
                        What jumps out? First, the durable guys remained durable throughout their careers, with just one exception: McHale, who ruined the second half of his career by bravely (and some would say foolishly) playing on a broken foot in the 1987 playoffs. Second, anyone who missed more than 80 games and couldn't play in 90 percent of the games in at least four of their first six seasons went on to have injury-plagued careers. (That includes Shaq, who played more than 68 games in a season just six times and missed an average of 18 games per season.) And third, if you can't stay on the court at your youngest/healthiest/freshest/most energetic, it's a pretty safe bet that things won't change as you get older. It's straight DNA: Some dudes are structurally built for 82-game NBA seasons, others aren't. So if you make the argument "If Bynum can stay healthy, he's a franchise center," just make sure you also mention that we have 35 years of evidence that there's a tipping point when "If he can stay healthy …" becomes "… he's not going to stay healthy." We're there with Andrew Bynum. He's not going to stay healthy. If I were the Lakers, I would trade him right now.
                        9. Pau Gasol
                        A few weeks ago, Kobe explained Gasol's latest funk like this: "Even when [Pau] was in Memphis and he was the go-to guy, he was always very nice. Very white swan. I need him to be black swan."

                        I thought this was funny for a variety of reasons, mainly that Kobe thought it was a good idea to compare his best teammate to a psychological ballet thriller that features an explicit lesbian sex scene, but also because you could tie it to Nassim Nicholas Taleb's book "The Black Swan." Taleb considered a "black swan event" an impact event that came by surprise, but that after it happened, everyone tried to rationalize that they knew it was coming (or that they should have known it was coming) by going backward and reexamining the available signs. Taleb believes most major events in history are unexpected, but humans can't accept that: We can't control random events, and when things are out of our control, we get nervous. We'd rather think we could control them. You know, kind of like Kobe and Jackson with Gasol. They think they can control his funks by lighting a fire under him, questioning his energy, pushing for MORE from him … and invariably, they're right. He's averaging a 21-9 and shooting 60 percent this month. There is nothing random about Pau Gasol: He averages an 18-10 and shoots 52 percent year after year, and at least once a season he needs to be kicked in the butt. He's neither a black swan nor a black swan event. By the way, don't mix Red Bull and Zithromax.
                        4. Derrick Rose
                        I still have him as the MVP. If you disagree, go look at the standings, try to find me 10 games in which Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah played together, then watch Keith Bogans play for 10 minutes. Derrick Rose did more for that team through the first 50 games than anyone else did for their team; doesn't make him the best player, just the most valuable. At least so far. Of course, we can't sleep on this scenario, courtesy of Tim in Troy:

                        "I think we could have a Hakeem Olajuwon/David Robinson situation brewing with the 2011 MVP: What if Rose gets presented with the trophy in front of LeBron before a Bulls-Heat Round 2 playoff game? I picture a standard LeBron Eff You game (40, 10 and 10, five mean dunks, sits for the fourth quarter) making Hakeem's shakedown of The Admiral look like a birthday present."

                        Great call. Yet here's the difference between Rose and Robinson: Rose would get ticked off by the Eff You performance, try to match it … and then it would be on like Donkey Kong. Have I mentioned how excited I am for the 2011 playoffs? I've mentioned that, right? We're definitely getting Boston-Chicago, Boston-Miami or Chicago-Miami in Round 2. Round 2!!!! Any one of those three matchups will be old-school, '80s-style, no-handshaking bloodbaths. I can't wait for the refs to get overprotective and screw it up.
                        3. Kevin Durant
                        With LeBron splitting shots with the other MoHeatos, it's hard to foresee a situation in which KD's 30 a game wouldn't take the scoring title year after year after year until he got bored … and that's assuming 30 is his ceiling, when actually -- if Oklahoma City added a low-post threat and Durant bumped up his 3-point shooting (34 percent right now) -- he could climb to 33-34 pretty soon. (The record: MJ and Wilt both won seven straight scoring titles.) So worst-case scenario, barring injury, he'll be a rich man's George Gervin.

                        And with that said …

                        Remember this past September. Turkey? The Baster Game? Why did so many Team USA guys make a leap afterward (Rose, Westbrook, ***, Love, Chandler, Odom, etc.) and Durant went sideways? Am I picking nits? Were my expectations too high? Are his teammates worse than we realize? Did he already HAVE his leap, and that's as far as we're going? You'd think Westbrook's leap would have facilitated a second mini-leap from Durant, right? And further--

                        (Oh, that's right … he's 22. I forgot.)

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                        • There's still no reason for Melo to be so low.


                          RIP TheManInBlack

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                          • He's charting their value right now. No one will want him because only 2 or 3 teams in all of the NBA could get him to sign an extension.

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                            • plenty of teams will make offers without a extension on the table just for a rental

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                              • Originally posted by Brodeur View Post
                                There's still no reason for Melo to be so low.
                                Length of contract and perceived desire to play only for the New York Knicks.

                                Oldie but a goodie.

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