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  • Originally posted by MetSox17 View Post
    Lebron has always been a hack, i don't know why more people didn't hate him before.
    Eh, he tends to be a dominant, "godly" player for the first 47:30 or so of the game, and he was single handedly carrying an otherwise godawful, irrelevant team in Cleveland to being a championship contender.

    But he's got no clutch and looked like a total tool with the whole "decision" bull ****.

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    • Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
      Eh, he tends to be a dominant, "godly" player for the first 47:30 or so of the game, and he was single handedly carrying an otherwise godawful, irrelevant team in Cleveland to being a championship contender.

      But he's got no clutch and looked like a total tool with the whole "decision" bull ****.
      That's not what i meant, he has always been an amazing player that isn't very clutch, but his whole persona was just complete ********. It was so forced, and fake.

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      • Originally posted by MetSox17 View Post
        That's not what i meant, he has always been an amazing player that isn't very clutch, but his whole persona was just complete ********. It was so forced, and fake.
        I know what you meant, I was just saying why there were a lot of people who liked him in Cleveland.

        And his persona is killing his team. For most of the season I just assumed this year would be a growing year for the Heat and they'd need to use the offseason to creatively get some role players. But even if they do that, they aren't winning until they get the personality situation figured out. LeBron CAN NOT hit the last second shots. They need to stop giving him those, but I doubt they will. Can't piss him off....

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        • Funny thing is, last night the play wasn't designed for Lebron. So even when they tried protecting him from choking away another last second shot, he still got a chance to tie the game and bricked. Just watch the play, he's in such a panic that he doesn't even know that there's plenty of time on the clock for him to set up properly and he just rushes the shot and as a result it falls short. So chances are they hurt his feelings by giving the shot to bosh (again, wtf?!!?!), AND he still managed to choke. lol

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          • Originally posted by MetSox17 View Post
            Funny thing is, last night the play wasn't designed for Lebron. So even when they tried protecting him from choking away another last second shot, he still got a chance to tie the game and bricked. Just watch the play, he's in such a panic that he doesn't even know that there's plenty of time on the clock for him to set up properly and he just rushes the shot and as a result it falls short. So chances are they hurt his feelings by giving the shot to bosh (again, wtf?!!?!), AND he still managed to choke. lol
            If they gave it to Bosh, it's a unique original play that shows how "unselfish" they are!

            But if they gave it to Wade, LeBrick would get butt hurt.

            Get it?

            LeBrick's mental weakness will be the downfall of the Heat.

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            • Originally posted by JETS5128 View Post
              I've read through the last 10 or so pages of this thread and i thought i would throw in my 2 cents.

              What I've learned from this free agency is that Lebron James was not who we thought he was. During his 7 years in Cleveland he realized that he doesn't have the competitiveness and mental toughness to lead a team to a title. I think he's incredibly relieved to not be the guy on his team anymore because he learned that he was never going to be strong enough to shoulder that role.

              This is why Miami was able to land Lebron, because Riley and Wade are the only ones that truly understood Lebron's mind. Chicago and NY tried to challenge Lebron to be an all time great and lead their teams to championships. They tried to play to his competitiveness and desire to be great, but obviously Lebron is heavily lacking in both of those areas. He only wanted titles.

              I'm not upset that Lebron chose Miami because i understand he is desperate for championships. I'm more so disappointed that when it came time for the most hyped up and talented athlete of our generation to show his true colors, they were as far from a "King" as you can get. No matter how many rings he wins, Lebron will never go down as one of the truly great players this league has seen. This is unfortunate because the idea that he was going to be one of the greats has been shoved down our throats ever since he entered the league. Ever since he was on the map Lebron told us that he wanted to be the next MJ. I don't know if he was lying or if he had a change of heart, but from now on he will never be more than the 2nd coming of Scottie Pippen.

              Nothing stood out to me more than when Lebron said "Dwayne is unselfish for allowing me and Chris to come to his team." I can't think of one all-time great player that would ever say that. No one that says that sentence would ever be capable of leading a team to a title on his own.
              I still stand by basically everything I said then, dude is a ***** with a capital P



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              • Originally posted by JETS5128 View Post
                I still stand by basically everything I said then, dude is a ***** with a capital P
                You were so spot on it's not even funny. You nailed it.

                Absolutely nailed it.

                NO great player would ever say that. Not a single one.

                I hope Knick fans start chanting "SIDEKICK!" everytime he comes to the line at the Garden.

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                • Completely agree with that, Jets. It seems to me he has the "ends and means" of greatness mixed up. He wants easy championships to validate his greatness, but it works the other way around.

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                  • It's funny listening to ESPN talk about making a coaching change as if that will solve the problem. No matter who they bring in, they're going to be hamstrung by not wanting to piss off Lebron.

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                    • I think Pat Riley would help, clearly a better basketball mind than Spolstra.
                      Originally posted by ATLDirtyBirds
                      Coples is that dude.
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                      • I ******* love LeBron.

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                        • Originally posted by thenewfeature06 View Post
                          I think Pat Riley would help, clearly a better basketball mind than Spolstra.
                          Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                          It's funny listening to ESPN talk about making a coaching change as if that will solve the problem. No matter who they bring in, they're going to be hamstrung by not wanting to piss off Lebron.
                          I think it's funny, too. After all, Spoelstra has been working under Riley since Riley's first year in Miami (1995). He's his hand picked guy. He's been grooming him for years.

                          Secondly, I think it's foolish to assume that the three amigos even want to play for him. Remember this article, anyone?

                          But from the Be-Careful-What-You-Wish-For Dept: Do they really want Riley?
                          If they don't like Spoelstra's two-hour practices, they should talk with Dwyane Wade about Riley's four-hour practices.


                          If LeBron James didn't like being called out by Spoelstra in the privacy of a practice, he should hear the story of Riley challenging Shaquille O'Neal to a fight in practice when Shaq didn't want to work.


                          If James thinks the "fun" quotient is missing - and who's to say it isn't for him? - no one takes basketball more seriously than Riley. Again, he and Alonzo Mourning are of the same mindset. Not he and Shaq.


                          Would Riley be an upgrade? Come on. He'd be an upgrade on anyone but Phil Jackson in basketball. Riley is a Hall of Fame coach. He's won everywhere. So you know his X's and O's are there, assuming at 65 he hasn't lost his fastball. And it's possible he has, considering the last time he coached the 15-win team a few years ago he couldn't wait to stop.
                          But the question to the Heat season isn't Spoelstra's X's and O's. And you have a staff with Ron Rothstein that is as good as you can have from a basketball standpoint.


                          So if LeBron, Wade and Chris Bosh aren't happy with the coaching, the first place they should like is in the mirror.

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                          • Can we just call LeBron the 'Evolutionary Wilt Chamberlain' now?

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                            • I like coward more. Bc that's what he is...a coward.

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                              • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                                He's afraid of missing his free throws. He's not a great free throw shooter.

                                The guy is a coward. I didn't realize it until this year, all the signs were there. He's not Jordan, he's not Kobe, he'll never be those guys. He's mentally weak.
                                This is Knicks fans code for: "I didn't hate him until he decided not to play on the Knicks, because if he came to the Knicks I'd think he was the greatest player ever."

                                Also, for as much as I may dislike LeBron (have disliked him before he went to the Heat, fwiw) calling him a coward is pretty weak. Maybe it's just me, but calling someone a coward is about the worst thing you can do, and tossing it around in this situation seems unnecessary.

                                I also think it's funny how people like to make up story lines in their heads about how LeBron has to be the guy to take the last shot, and would be offended if it wasn't him. If anything, he's one of the most unselfish superstars the league has. In fact, I remember when people would use to ***** at him in Cleveland when he would DEFER the last shot to a wide open teammate. Hilarious how things have changed in such a short time span.

                                Also, maybe the reason Dwyane Wade isn't shooting last second threes is because he's ******* atrocious at shooting threes. Just a thought, though.

                                And finally, I hate trying to be reasonable when it comes to "defending" LeBron because he's a douche bag, but the amount of stupidity people try to create regarding LeBron because they don't like him is more annoying than LeBron himself is.
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