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  • Originally posted by Forenci View Post

    And finally, I hate trying to be reasonable when it comes to "defending" LeBron because he's a douche bag, but the amount of stupidity people try to create regarding LeBron because they don't like him is more annoying than LeBron himself is.
    Which is why I'm forced to pretty much like the guy. Even though I hate his bitchy persona.

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    • They got a little help from the Heat, but yeah, that was the 2nd largest come back win in Orlando history. I'm still giddy. They're actually proving to be a team very capable of making late runs. They did the same thing against the Knicks recently. I like, I like. Gotta love teams that dont get demoralized when in the hole, that def. shows some, dare I say...True Grit.
      Last edited by M.O.T.H.; 03-04-2011, 12:51 PM.

      Thanks BoneKrusher^

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      • Originally posted by Forenci View Post
        This is Knicks fans code for: "I didn't hate him until he decided not to play on the Knicks, because if he came to the Knicks I'd think he was the greatest player ever."

        Also, for as much as I may dislike LeBron (have disliked him before he went to the Heat, fwiw) calling him a coward is pretty weak. Maybe it's just me, but calling someone a coward is about the worst thing you can do, and tossing it around in this situation seems unnecessary.

        I also think it's funny how people like to make up story lines in their heads about how LeBron has to be the guy to take the last shot, and would be offended if it wasn't him. If anything, he's one of the most unselfish superstars the league has. In fact, I remember when people would use to ***** at him in Cleveland when he would DEFER the last shot to a wide open teammate. Hilarious how things have changed in such a short time span.

        Also, maybe the reason Dwyane Wade isn't shooting last second threes is because he's ******* atrocious at shooting threes. Just a thought, though.

        And finally, I hate trying to be reasonable when it comes to "defending" LeBron because he's a douche bag, but the amount of stupidity people try to create regarding LeBron because they don't like him is more annoying than LeBron himself is.
        Of course I was upset he didn't come here. But that's not the reason why I hate him. I hate him bc he took the easy way out. If he went to Chicago, or stayed in Cleveland, I'd respect him. When he went to Miami, I lost all respect for him.

        But I always thought he was the best player in the league. Even when he went to Miami I thought he was. But it's become clear that all the knocks on him are valid. The guy lacks the mentality you need to be a Jordan or a Kobe.

        I always thought he just needed good players around him. Well he has that now, and he still can't come through in big moments.

        Lebron doesn't pass it up in those big moments bc he's unselfish, Lebron passes it bc he's scared to take the last shot. He can't handle the criticism.

        He's passed on wide open shots himself in the clutch to pass it to someone else. He can't handle the moment.

        His personality is just cowardly. He's a front runner. He grew up a Bulls fan, a Cowboys fan, and a Yankees fan. Why? Bc they all won. They were the easy team to root for.

        Now he takes the easy way out in FA. Why? Bc it's the cowardly thing to do, just like being a front runner.

        So yes, I have no problem calling him a coward. It's his personality.

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        • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
          If they gave it to Bosh, it's a unique original play that shows how "unselfish" they are!

          But if they gave it to Wade, LeBrick would get butt hurt.

          Get it?

          LeBrick's mental weakness will be the downfall of the Heat.
          Is it LeBron getting butt hurt or LeBron knowing that if he doesn't take the last shot people will talk about him as Wade's side kick as a way to diminish how incredibly beastly the guy is for the vast majority of the game despite having some terrible basketball fundamentals?

          LeBron's not Kobe or Jordan, but that doesn't mean he can't be an absolutely amazing player who's better than either one. He'd just be a different type of dominant force if instead of focusing on becoming that final shot assassin he focused on becoming that guy who'll get Robert Horry open for the buzzer-beater that he can't hit himself.

          The problem with Miami is exactly that people are talking about how he can't hit that game winner, it's gotten into his head now. He needs to get over it and start focusing on what he can do to get Wade or Bibby the easiest final shot they can get, he can still be a force in the waning seconds without being the guy taking that final shot, especially on a team that has a guy who has a history of being that clutch, game-winner, but people have been comparing him to Jordan and Kobe for so long that I don't think he can accept that he's a different type of person than they are and so he needs to learn how to finish games differently than they did it. Hopefully in a year or two people will talk about him in a different light and we won't here him compared to Jordan and Kobe as much letting him maybe finally get out from that shadow.

          BK

          Originally posted by AcheTen
          JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
          Originally posted by abaddon41_80
          Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
          Originally posted by JBCX
          Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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          • The Heat should go after Jerry Sloan hard. Seems like an odd matchup, but it would be pretty awesome to see it unfold.

            Thanks to BoneKrusher Credit and Rep to him for the sig.

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            • according to 82games.com Lebron is the most clutch player in the NBA - everyone

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              • I see a fair number of Bleacher Report columns concerning Erik Spoelstra and whether or not he needs to be canned.

                The people who say he needs to be canned- and summarily blamed for the Heat not performing to expectations- either do not or can not name a coach who could succeed where Spo has failed... or they turn immediately to 65-year old Pat Riley.

                You'd think 65 Years Old would be a warning sign, even if you're Pat Riley. That's legit 'I lost my fastball and am about to lose my curve too' territory.

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                • Is he scared, or does he just realize that there are guys better suited for the role and that a contested shot from him is often times a much worse shot than wide open shot from someone else. I do think that it's started to get in his head now, but not because there's a fundamental fear of choking the game away, just that he knows that him forcing that shot isn't what's best for the team but people talk so much about that that he can't ignore it and is effecting his game.

                  BK

                  Originally posted by AcheTen
                  JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                  Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                  Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                  Originally posted by JBCX
                  Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                  • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                    Of course I was upset he didn't come here. But that's not the reason why I hate him. I hate him bc he took the easy way out. If he went to Chicago, or stayed in Cleveland, I'd respect him. When he went to Miami, I lost all respect for him.

                    But I always thought he was the best player in the league. Even when he went to Miami I thought he was. But it's become clear that all the knocks on him are valid. The guy lacks the mentality you need to be a Jordan or a Kobe.

                    I always thought he just needed good players around him. Well he has that now, and he still can't come through in big moments.

                    Lebron doesn't pass it up in those big moments bc he's unselfish, Lebron passes it bc he's scared to take the last shot. He can't handle the criticism.

                    He's passed on wide open shots himself in the clutch to pass it to someone else. He can't handle the moment.


                    His personality is just cowardly. He's a front runner. He grew up a Bulls fan, a Cowboys fan, and a Yankees fan. Why? Bc they all won. They were the easy team to root for.

                    Now he takes the easy way out in FA. Why? Bc it's the cowardly thing to do, just like being a front runner.

                    So yes, I have no problem calling him a coward. It's his personality.
                    Like I said, you're just making up story lines in your head. But that is sports these days, people like to believe they know what people are thinking and state it as if they have inside knowledge of the situation.

                    And how did he take the easy way out? He is a coward because he wanted leave his **** hole Cleveland team with a douche bag owner and play with his friends? Because he wanted to take less money, which is something we claim athletes NEVER do? Do people forget Kobe demanded a trade? I'm sure Kobe would have stayed with the Lakers all these years if they weren't constantly putting superb talent around him, too! Same with Jordan. The difference is the Cavs are ******* moronic and think Antawn Jamison and Mo Williams are somehow difference makers.

                    Are you really going to consider him a coward because he likes the Yankees, Cowboys, and Bulls? Do you know how many people like those teams because thats what was constantly shoved down their throats in the late 80's and throughout the 90's? I may not like it myself, but that doesn't mean I can't understand it too. When you're a kid and see you teams with legendary players winning it all it tends you leave an imprint on you.
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                    • Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
                      Is it LeBron getting butt hurt or LeBron knowing that if he doesn't take the last shot people will talk about him as Wade's side kick as a way to diminish how incredibly beastly the guy is for the vast majority of the game despite having some terrible basketball fundamentals?

                      LeBron's not Kobe or Jordan, but that doesn't mean he can't be an absolutely amazing player who's better than either one. He'd just be a different type of dominant force if instead of focusing on becoming that final shot assassin he focused on becoming that guy who'll get Robert Horry open for the buzzer-beater that he can't hit himself.

                      The problem with Miami is exactly that people are talking about how he can't hit that game winner, it's gotten into his head now. He needs to get over it and start focusing on what he can do to get Wade or Bibby the easiest final shot they can get, he can still be a force in the waning seconds without being the guy taking that final shot, especially on a team that has a guy who has a history of being that clutch, game-winner, but people have been comparing him to Jordan and Kobe for so long that I don't think he can accept that he's a different type of person than they are and so he needs to learn how to finish games differently than they did it. Hopefully in a year or two people will talk about him in a different light and we won't here him compared to Jordan and Kobe as much letting him maybe finally get out from that shadow.
                      I hate to break this to you... but he'll never escape that shadow. Ever.

                      More to the point, he'll never truly develop the facilitator role he so desperately needs to elevate his game beyond what it currently is. Best case scenario, it's going to take at least one, maybe several, failed trips through the playoffs to get it through his skull, but even then it's not so likely.

                      That's why I call him the Evolutionary Wilt Chamberlain- their skills and mental makeup seem eerily similar.

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                      • Oh good, this conversation again. I don't even really like the guy anymore but damn it's getting old.

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                        • Comes with the territory, my good friend. Every Sports 'super'star gets fellated repeatedly and ceaselessly.

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                          • Originally posted by Zycho32 View Post
                            Comes with the territory, my good friend. Every Sports 'super'star gets fellated repeatedly and ceaselessly.

                            It's just repetitive on here though, obviously people are going to talk about Lebron but bring something new come on. It's just post after post about how he's a *****, BBD calls him a coward a bunch of times, and a few guys come in here defending him using the same rationale over and over.

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                            • Originally posted by Forenci View Post
                              Like I said, you're just making up story lines in your head. But that is sports these days, people like to believe they know what people are thinking and state it as if they have inside knowledge of the situation.

                              And how did he take the easy way out? He is a coward because he wanted leave his **** hole Cleveland team with a douche bag owner and play with his friends? Because he wanted to take less money, which is something we claim athletes NEVER do? Do people forget Kobe demanded a trade? I'm sure Kobe would have stayed with the Lakers all these years if they weren't constantly putting superb talent around him, too! Same with Jordan. The difference is the Cavs are ******* moronic and think Antawn Jamison and Mo Williams are somehow difference makers.

                              Are you really going to consider him a coward because he likes the Yankees, Cowboys, and Bulls? Do you know how many people like those teams because thats what was constantly shoved down their throats in the late 80's and throughout the 90's? I may not like it myself, but that doesn't mean I can't understand it too. When you're a kid and see you teams with legendary players winning it all it tends you leave an imprint on you.
                              You don't think going to Miami was the easy way out?

                              Do you honestly think that Jordan, or Kobe would ever do something like that? Ever?

                              What LeBron did was the exact opposite of what any ultra competitive person would do. The greats want to beat everyone else, they don't want to join them.

                              This would be equivalent to Ewing and Jordan pairing up instead of going at each other in the 90s. It's a cowardly move.

                              Do you think it wasn't cowardly to quit on your team in game 5 like he did last year? Or to take a blatant shot at Cleveland while they were on their historic losing streak, then deny you were talking about Cleveland the next day?

                              The guy is filled with bitchassness. His true colors came out this year when he couldn't hide behind this manufactured aura that we've been sold by the media for all these years.

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                              • Originally posted by yo123 View Post
                                It's just repetitive on here though, obviously people are going to talk about Lebron but bring something new come on. It's just post after post about how he's a *****, BBD calls him a coward a bunch of times, and a few guys come in here defending him using the same rationale over and over.
                                True, true.

                                Just to shake things up a bit here, how's Love's passing ability?

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