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  • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
    Defense is absolutely a problem, no doubt.

    I gotta give it to Hansborough though, it's not like they didn't defend him, he actually made some great moves and shots.

    The Knicks are just having such a hard time making switches. It's like a headless chicken. That's bad coaching. It's all mental mistakes.
    Thats why as long as you have D'Antoni as your coach, the Knicks will never be a serious threat to make a run. I cant imagine how dangerous the Knicks could be if they had a real coach coaching them or at least bringing a coach in who knows defense.

    Props to fenikz on the awesome sig

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    • Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a D'Antoni coached team one stupid application of the bench area rules away from making the Championship a few years back?

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      • Originally posted by yo123 View Post
        Not saying he should have been the #2 pick, but Turner has been playing better since his pathetic start to the year. I still think he's going to be a good player. But Cousins probably should have been #2, Monroe 3rd.
        I think Cousins vs Monroe is an interesting debate. I believe a significant number of NBA teams would prefer Monroe. He may not be quite the talent Cousins is, but he isn't a headache either. Cousins scores more, but Monroe shoots a higher FG%. Cousins is the type of guy who will be mad if he doesn't get touches. Monroe seems more like the kind of guy who will embrace whatever role is asked of him. A team can put scorers around a big man. Grabbing rebounds, preventing easy underneath baskets, blocking/altering shots, etc is the primary value Cousins and Monroe can bring.

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        • Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
          I was looking at some of the league's salaries and I found it interesting that the Bulls currently have the 5th lowest total in the league. And for a team that could easily compete for a championship this year, that mgiht end up being a huge deal.

          And most of their best players are locked up for the next 3 years. This could greatly play to their advantage as is, but it would especially help them if the new CBA institutes a hard cap, since a lot of the other best teams are in the bottom half.

          I hope they don't do something stupid and break it up though. It just seems to me that in the NBA, a lot of teams make moves just for the sake of making moves. The bulls have a really solid base with an emerging Superstar in Rose....if they use their available cap room wisely and add a shooter, there is no reason they can't turn into a dynasty, especially if the new CBA hurts teams who have most of their money tied up in a few stars. (Heat, cough, Heat...)

          they are right up against where the cap would be, it doesn't benefit them they will be using their MLE like everyone else. Kings would be the only team with any actually room to make moves.
          Last edited by fenikz; 03-16-2011, 02:32 PM.

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          • Originally posted by fenikz View Post
            they are right up against where the cap would be, it doesn't benefit them they will be using their MLE like everyone else. Kings would be the only team with any actually room to make moves.
            I meant more like if there is a change in the system, which there probably will be. They have the best situation of any contender if a hard cap is put in.

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            • Originally posted by fenikz View Post
              they are right up against where the cap would be, it doesn't benefit them they will be using their MLE like everyone else. Kings would be the only team with any actually room to make moves.
              Right, the difference is they are the only competitive team remotely near that number. If a hard CAP was instituted, the Bulls would likely not have to cut much, if anything, whereas 75% of the rest of the league and most contenders would.

              Granted, there's really no way they can say all of a sudden one season that everyone has to be under this number so all these contracts are void, but it's just the principle of the discussion. The Bulls, and their notoriously cheap owner, are succeeding with a really low payroll.

              Their payroll is higher than Sacramento, Minnesota, Cleveland, and LAC, and followed right after by OKC, NY (pre Melo), NJ, Washington, and Indiana. So I lied, OKC is in there right by the Bulls. But out of that list, they don't fit with the rest.

              But that's what happens when you have 2 starters on their rookie contracts (Rose and Noah), another pretty productive bench guy on his rookie contract (Gibson), and a last guy seeing significant backup minutes (Asik).
              Last edited by iowatreat54; 03-16-2011, 02:48 PM.

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              • not that any more is really needed, but more proof Donald Sterling is truly a merciless assh*le who doesnt give a sh*t about anything but his total worth in $.

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                • And that's why no big free agent will sign with the Clippers and why Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon, Deandre Jordan, etc, will leave town as soon as they can.

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                  • Originally posted by EvilMonkey View Post
                    not that any more is really needed, but more proof Donald Sterling is truly a merciless assh*le who doesnt give a sh*t about anything but his total worth in $.

                    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...?urn=nba-wp184
                    I had just read that and was thinking about posting it. Sterling and the Clippers are such a joke...

                    Blake Griffin needs to get out before the team's bad karma Shaun Livingston's him or something.

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                    • Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                      The one night I was bored at work and kept redoing the lottery until Cleveland had the top 2 picks. Probably took at least 100 tries.
                      Kyrie Irving lobs to Harrison Barnes for the jam. lol.
                      **** her in da *****!

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                      • Originally posted by descendency View Post
                        Kyrie Irving lobs to Harrison Barnes for the jam. lol.


                        I think the rankings needed updated.

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                        • Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post


                          I think the rankings needed updated.
                          Can Jimmer Fredette legally be drafted to any team other than the Jazz? Maybe the Pacers I suppose

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                          • Originally posted by senormysterioso View Post
                            Can Jimmer Fredette legally be drafted to any team other than the Jazz? Maybe the Pacers I suppose
                            He was drafted by the Jazz like 99% of the time with that pick, lol

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                            • Originally posted by Halsey View Post
                              I think Cousins vs Monroe is an interesting debate. I believe a significant number of NBA teams would prefer Monroe. He may not be quite the talent Cousins is, but he isn't a headache either. Cousins scores more, but Monroe shoots a higher FG%. Cousins is the type of guy who will be mad if he doesn't get touches. Monroe seems more like the kind of guy who will embrace whatever role is asked of him. A team can put scorers around a big man. Grabbing rebounds, preventing easy underneath baskets, blocking/altering shots, etc is the primary value Cousins and Monroe can bring.
                              In the draft you always, always go for the All-Star potential. Demarcus Cousins can be a dominant player and you just hope you can rein in his crazy attitude. Greg Monroe may embrace whatever role, but in the NBA you need stars. For the NFL Draft I am very conservative and I embrace known commodities, solid contributors and role players; but I have an entirely different view of Basketball.

                              Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                              Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a D'Antoni coached team one stupid application of the bench area rules away from making the Championship a few years back?

                              People assume that the Suns would have beaten the Cavs like the Spurs did, but we know that the Spurs could defend LeBron with Bruce Bowen and Tim Duncan. We don't know what LeBron James could've done in a series against Phoenix.

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                              • Originally posted by Shiver View Post

                                People assume that the Suns would have beaten the Cavs like the Spurs did, but we know that the Spurs could defend LeBron with Bruce Bowen and Tim Duncan. We don't know what LeBron James could've done in a series against Phoenix.
                                I did say "making" the Championship. Winning may have been a different story....but it would have proof that a D'Antoni coached team could make a championship.

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