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  • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
    The Thunder could make an offer with some of their young talent, but it may not be the most enticing offer. They could offer Serge/Harden +, but Harden hasnt looked all that good in the league. Maynor and Aldrich offer potential as well.
    I'd assume you would get Perkins as well

    Perkins, Harden and Maynor trumps Bynum and anything the Lakers have imo.

    plus Harden is a lot better than the haters here lead you to believe, he plays great defense and has averaged 16 3 3 since Green was traded

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    • Originally posted by fenikz View Post
      I'd assume you would get Perkins as well

      Perkins, Harden and Maynor trumps Bynum and anything the Lakers have imo.

      plus Harden is a lot better than the haters here lead you to believe, he plays great defense and has averaged 16 3 3 since Green was traded
      I'd rather have something including Ibaka, or I wouldnt really be interested. His ceiling is very high. You're right, though...I didnt even think of Perkins. He'd be pretty useless with Howard on board. He'd be welcomed edition.

      Harden and Ibaka would have to be involved in any deal, I'm sure.

      edit...Now that I look at things a little more, I may want the Thunder to emerge as front runners, if a Dwight trade ever came to fruition. They have tons of young talent to offer.

      Harden, Ibaka, Perkins, and maybe more...it's not awful.
      Last edited by M.O.T.H.; 04-27-2011, 03:56 AM.

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      • but at what point are the Thunder just competing with themselves

        doubt anyone could top Perkins & Harden why even throw in Serge or Maynor

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        • Even with Harden's improvement Bynum/Odom is about 9000 times better than Perk/Harden.

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          • I'd take Perkins over Bynum's injury prone ass any day, maybe if they could find a 3rd team to take Odom and get a younger player in return it would be a better trade for rebuilding

            If the Thunder wanted to go balls out a package of Perkins, Serge, Harden, Maynor would be hard to refuse
            Last edited by fenikz; 04-27-2011, 06:22 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Bosanac01 View Post
              I think the biggest problem with Turk right now is confidence. Chubby Van Gundy keeps flaming him and saying how terrible he is, it's hard for anyone to play good when their coach is like that.
              He's a 32 year old vet shooting 20% from the field in this series, if he can't take his coach telling him he is awful which is an understatement, he shouldn't even be out there. Hedo has regressed so much even from 2 years ago, it's time for people to accept this. People are expecting Hedo, J-Rich, Gilbert, to be the players they were even 2 years ago, but there is a reason their respective teams traded them away. They are all on the downhill. Sure they are capable of once in a while vintage performances but to expect any of them to be great on a given night is not realisitic anymore. People are expecting Hedo to lead them to an eastern conference championship like he once did, but he simply isn't capable anymore. Orlando has just made way too many moves just for the sake of making moves and trying to stay relevant in media outlets. Should have just kept players like Gortat and Courtney Lee. You would have thought that moving Rashard was a good move, and it could have been yet you move him for someone even older(health wise), and an even larger contract.

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              • Originally posted by fenikz View Post
                but at what point are the Thunder just competing with themselves

                doubt anyone could top Perkins & Harden why even throw in Serge or Maynor
                I'd argue that Serge would be the most vauable piece to any deal. And when it comes to Howard, I seriously doubt they'd be dealing against themselves...ever. I'd want Harden/Serge to be the starting point. And they'd almost have to include Perkins in a deal.

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                • Perkins is injury proned too...

                  But if we're talking:

                  Harden, Serge, and Perkins vs. Bynum and Odom.

                  I'm going with the former. Harden and Serge are barely drinking age, and Perkins is a young defensive presence. Bynum gets overrated because of his age, but in actuality, his "true age" is probably no where near this. His knees are in horrendous shape. And while Odom is a valuable piece for any franchise...he is in his 30s and not the greatest player to start re-building around.

                  Giving up Harden, Serge, and Perkins may look like a lot to give up...but the Thunder are certainly in a place to do it.

                  It would be tough for any team to match this type of offer, imo. Given youth and upside.
                  Last edited by M.O.T.H.; 04-27-2011, 10:33 AM.

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                  • Seriously, of Howard goes to the Lakers or Bulls the NBA should just get rid of all non-major market teams. The NBA could just be:

                    Lakers
                    Celtics
                    Knicks
                    Bulls
                    and maybe a few others

                    It'll be extra annoying if he goes to the Lakers. Is there some kind of secret rule that states the Lakers always have to have a star center? They don't ever need to worry about drafting a center. They can just bring in one from another team anytime they need one.

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                    • Yeah...it pisses me off too. Championship teams in the NBA are like a fraternity...there really doesnt seem to be a whole lot of parody, when it comes to championship winners.

                      And more than likely...if they trade him, he'll end up on one of those two teams. Granted, if the Thunder got him...they could be an unmatched super team...but hey, I like the Thunder...so I'd rather see that than the Bulls and Lakers winning every championship again.

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                      • Originally posted by fenikz View Post
                        I'd take Perkins over Bynum's injury prone ass any day, maybe if they could find a 3rd team to take Odom and get a younger player in return it would be a better trade for rebuilding

                        If the Thunder wanted to go balls out a package of Perkins, Serge, Harden, Maynor would be hard to refuse
                        No chance in hell, why would Orlando do that? Orlando knows that if they are trading him they are going to try and get a stud out of the deal rather than let him just walk in FA. Bynum brings much much more to the table than Perkins.

                        IMO Bynum and Howard are the only centers in this league with the potential to be "Elite". If im the Magic, I take the chance that Bynum is on the road to staying healthy consistently (small chance), but I think you take it.



                        Originally posted by 49erNation85
                        I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.

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                        • Originally posted by SickwithIt1010 View Post
                          No chance in hell, why would Orlando do that? Orlando knows that if they are trading him they are going to try and get a stud out of the deal rather than let him just walk in FA. Bynum brings much much more to the table than Perkins.

                          IMO Bynum and Howard are the only centers in this league with the potential to be "Elite". If im the Magic, I take the chance that Bynum is on the road to staying healthy consistently (small chance), but I think you take it.
                          Bynum's knees are a serious concern. I wouldnt touch him. I know Lakers fans seem to love him, but he's not the most attractive looking piece to many outsiders. Good player, but the guy can never stay healthy and his basketball age, seems much older than his actual age.

                          Landing Ibaka/Harden/Perkins would entice me much more. It isnt a Perkins vs Bynum thing. It's not like Perk would even be considered the main piece in a deal. You're rolling the dice investing a lot into Bynum.

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                          • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                            I'd argue that Serge would be the most vauable piece to any deal. And when it comes to Howard, I seriously doubt they'd be dealing against themselves...ever. I'd want Harden/Serge to be the starting point. And they'd almost have to include Perkins in a deal.
                            It wouldn't matter, they could send all 4. Who can compete with Westbrook, Howard, and Durant?

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                            • Don't forget with the new CBA most likely a team couldn't pay all 3 guys even if they filled their roster with minimum contract guys.

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                              • Originally posted by prock View Post
                                It wouldn't matter, they could send all 4. Who can compete with Westbrook, Howard, and Durant?
                                Thats the same thing they said about Lebron, Wade, and Bosh....that wasnt the case.

                                You need role players.



                                Originally posted by 49erNation85
                                I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.

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