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  • Imagine how boring these finals would be if the Heat weren't in them.

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    • Originally posted by draftguru151 View Post

      And these refs are a joke. Another terribly officiated game. Pathetic.
      I 2nd this. I wont say that bad officiating is the reason the Mavs lost tonight. But it did give the Heat a couple "gifts" tonight and I'll just leave it at that.

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      • Any more ref bitching and moaning gets a rep rape from myself. Hey did u know the Mavericks shot 12 more free throws than the Heat and the Heat got called for 13 more fouls. I ain't complaining but if u are gonna say the Heat were the beneficiaries c'mon! I know my Heat are the worst at this, but every team does it now and if they don't they better if they wanna win. But sometimes making it look like u get fouled works. In fact it works a lot and BOTH ******* TEAMS DID IT, AND IT WASN'T JUST THE HEAT SO DON'T ******* TELL ME I AM A HOMER CUZ I KNOW WE DO IT. But there was a play where Kidd had no intention of shooting he jumped into Wade and drew a foul at the end of the half. There was a play where Mike Miller didn't touch Dirk Novitski but it was called an and 1 cuz Dirk made it look like he got fouled. D-Wade stopped a run where he made it look like he got shoved where there wasn't a guy within 3 feet of him. That was not a foul but it was called one. Every contested shot, just like how in the NFL every play could have holding, every freeking contested shot could prolly be called a ******* foul. Thats the way it is. If they called every foul, every touch the game would be so slow where it would almost be unwatchable. A lot of the players make it already so (and yes including ones on my Heat) flopping so freeking much it looks like the Italian soccer team. Every team does it, or if they don't, they should. Cuz NBA refs have it rough man u wanna ***** about every call, every game, and say that all the game are rigged and there is some kind of forced outcome for the Heat to win this thing, well I'm gonna let u believe what u wanna believe and tell u if u know basketball so ******* good, become a ******* ref urself, I doubt u do a better job, u prolly do worse. But I'll stick to being a fan. And I know some smart ass is gonna go yeah, this is a dude whose team won by 2. U know what had the Heat lost the game or lose any games for that matter, I always put it on our coaches and players. Cuz we are too good and champions don't blame losses on officials and if we lose its cuz we don't execute. Just like Dirk missed the game tying shot. Like the Mavs turning the ball over 14 times. Or missing 5 free throws. Or shooting worse than the Heat. I know u'all said it played a part but was not the key, but just saying officiating played a part is just ludicris to me.

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        • Originally posted by yodapoop View Post
          Any more ref bitching and moaning gets a rep rape from myself. Hey did u know the Mavericks shot 12 more free throws than the Heat and the Heat got called for 13 more fouls. I ain't complaining but if u are gonna say the Heat were the beneficiaries c'mon! I know my Heat are the worst at this, but every team does it now and if they don't they better if they wanna win. But sometimes making it look like u get fouled works. In fact it works a lot and BOTH ******* TEAMS DID IT, AND IT WASN'T JUST THE HEAT SO DON'T ******* TELL ME I AM A HOMER CUZ I KNOW WE DO IT. But there was a play where Kidd had no intention of shooting he jumped into Wade and drew a foul at the end of the half. There was a play where Mike Miller didn't touch Dirk Novitski but it was called an and 1 cuz Dirk made it look like he got fouled. D-Wade stopped a run where he made it look like he got shoved where there wasn't a guy within 3 feet of him. That was not a foul but it was called one. Every contested shot, just like how in the NFL every play could have holding, every freeking contested shot could prolly be called a ******* foul. Thats the way it is. If they called every foul, every touch the game would be so slow where it would almost be unwatchable. A lot of the players make it already so (and yes including ones on my Heat) flopping so freeking much it looks like the Italian soccer team. Every team does it, or if they don't, they should. Cuz NBA refs have it rough man u wanna ***** about every call, every game, and say that all the game are rigged and there is some kind of forced outcome for the Heat to win this thing, well I'm gonna let u believe what u wanna believe and tell u if u know basketball so ******* good, become a ******* ref urself, I doubt u do a better job, u prolly do worse. But I'll stick to being a fan. And I know some smart ass is gonna go yeah, this is a dude whose team won by 2. U know what had the Heat lost the game or lose any games for that matter, I always put it on our coaches and players. Cuz we are too good and champions don't blame losses on officials and if we lose its cuz we don't execute. Just like Dirk missed the game tying shot. Like the Mavs turning the ball over 14 times. Or missing 5 free throws. Or shooting worse than the Heat. I know u'all said it played a part but was not the key, but just saying officiating played a part is just ludicris to me.
          That's cause the Heat were playing more aggressive D. It had nothing to do with the refs.

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          • Originally posted by soybean View Post
            this really bothers me. How could three allstars who are considered some of the league's best be such HUGE floppers. all three of them are guilty. The sad thing is that what if the game is decided by two points or less and Miami was basically given two free points for that play. ridiculous. this is why people hate the heat.
            Requoting myself cause of this...

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            • Lemme get this straight, now everyone hates the heat cause they act a little so they can get to the free throw line and yet no one seems to hate the spurs for doing this..

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              • really? only reason the Mavs were in games 2 & 3 were because of the refs. Stop making up excuses as to why the Heat are winning. Dirk is getting far more superstar calls than Wade or LeBron

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                • Oh God please don't act like the Refs helped the Heat AT ALL the past two games. Insane amount of phantom calls on the Heat and non calls on the Mavs. Both teams flop a ridiculous amount that's just the NBA at this point and is another thing all together. Dirk looked like he got shot in the back of the head at one point last night when Haslem touched his back. (And I'm not complaining about the refs as an excuse for anything, series would be 3-0 if the Heat didn't stop playing with 7 minutes left in game 2, just saying it's a joke).

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                  • I wasn't implying the refs were helping the heat or favoring the heat...

                    the heat have been out playing and out hustling the mavs.

                    All im saying is that when refs screw up a call like that REGARDLESS of which side it favors it kind of puts a damper on everything because every point matters.

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                    • Originally posted by 7-11 View Post
                      Prock you always seem willing to bash other posters thoughts but i rarely see you add any insight yourself. You act like you have this superior basketball knowledge but from what i've seen there is nothing at all to support that.
                      I am more than willing to have a good debate, but when posts like that that are just so dumb, it isn't worth my time.

                      And for the record, I read, like raiderz4life, read that as you claiming Howard wasn't as good of a defender as Marion. I take back that point. The rest holds true.
                      Last edited by prock; 06-06-2011, 02:29 PM.

                      Bonekrusher.

                      Originally posted by JordanTaber
                      Football...it's rocket surgery now, folks.

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                      • Originally posted by prock View Post
                        "Haha really?" counts as a hissy fit? Good deduction. Keep up the good basketball knowledge. You pick and choose what points count and which don't based on your own argument. You compare things that are not comparable. You rely on some ******** statistics that say Marion is a better defender than Howard. Your basketball knowledge doesn't leave a stat sheet, and your common sense seems to lack as well.
                        I never said he was a better defender than Howard. I just said to compare their stats, so if someone never saw the stat before, they could compare them to arguably the best defender in the league (Howard). And if you think they are ****** statistics, then say why. Just because they are not mainstream stats, doesn't mean they suck.

                        And you negged me too with no apparent reasoning. I'd count that in for a hissy fit.
                        Last edited by Docta; 06-06-2011, 03:36 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Docta View Post
                          I never said he was a better defender than Howard. I just said to compare their stats, so if someone never saw the stat before, they could compare them to arguably the best defender in the league (Howard). And if you think they are ****** statistics, then say why. Just because they are not mainstream stats, doesn't mean they suck.

                          And you negged me too with no apparent reasoning. I'd count that in for a hissy fit.
                          Really? Youre that concerned about getting neg repped?



                          Originally posted by 49erNation85
                          I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.

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                          • Originally posted by Docta View Post
                            I never said he was a better defender than Howard. I just said to compare their stats, so if someone never saw the stat before, they could compare them to arguably the best defender in the league (Howard). And if you think they are ****** statistics, then say why. Just because they are not mainstream stats, doesn't mean they suck.

                            And you negged me too with no apparent reasoning. I'd count that in for a hissy fit.
                            I would have to be mad for a hissy fit. I just thought it was funny. The neg rep was a culmination of stupid posts and your inability to grasp common logic. You repeatedly stated how Wade being guarded by Terry is the same as Lebron being guarded by Terry, not willing to acknowledge the 4 inch and 50 pound difference. You refuse to acknowledge that a 33 year old Marion does not have the same step or quickness that he used to. Quit getting mad, bro.

                            Bonekrusher.

                            Originally posted by JordanTaber
                            Football...it's rocket surgery now, folks.

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                            • Surprised that Miami is having such a hard time beating the Mavs. Without Dirk, the Mavs are most unspectacular. Would've loved to see Dirk with at least a 2nd all-star. You just can't win by yourself. I think Caron Butler would've been a difference maker.

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                              • Caron would be huge for the Mavs considering right now Barea and Marion are the most athletic guys on that roster. Miami, when Wade and Lebron commit to D are scary. they're just so athletic it's ridiculous.
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