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  • what was the punch count for both fighter?

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    • Originally posted by Bosanac01 View Post
      what was the punch count for both fighter?
      The final punch count was Pacquiao's 1231 to Clottey's 399.
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      • Originally posted by Rob S View Post
        The final punch count was Pacquiao's 1231 to Clottey's 399.
        Holy **** pac man threw a lot of punches. It didn't look like Clottey threw anywhere close to 399 though.

        Originally posted by Joshua Clottey
        "This is the first fight that I feel that I've lost," said Clottey. "He has great movement. He has great movement and speed. It was very difficult for me to handle that. I didn't feel much of his power, but I couldn't handle his speed."
        First time he feels like he got his ass whooped. Good to hear.

        I'm hoping Mosley and Mayweather fight is much better then this one. It was disappointing. BTW thanx for the link Rob.

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        • Manny Pacquiao looked like Sulu in Star Trek tonight...Twins

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          • Anyone know where I can watch the fight????
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            • Pac Man had to do very little to win. I know it must have been killing him though because he wants to mix it up. He won every round big time IMO. I think just like the Cotto fight there were several times when Pac would take punches just so Clottey would at least open up and try to fight a little bit, but no good. All Pac had to do was basically bag practice on Clottey's body. Boring fight. Pac did the only thing he could do with an opponent so non engaging. Pac's still amazing though. I was scared in the 4th or 5th rounds that he would get lulled to sleep.

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              • ughhhh this does nothing to help Pac in my eyes, his last few fights were against scrubs. Clottey ughhh I thought he would show up. Cotto was a shell of his former self. Hopefully Pac fights FMJr so I can tell people to **** about Pac, Pac is ver good, but fMJr is godly. I am interested in the pasting FMJr will give to Sugarloaf Shane
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                • Originally posted by bored of education View Post
                  ughhhh this does nothing to help Pac in my eyes, his last few fights were against scrubs. Clottey ughhh I thought he would show up. Cotto was a shell of his former self. Hopefully Pac fights FMJr so I can tell people to **** about Pac, Pac is ver good, but fMJr is godly. I am interested in the pasting FMJr will give to Sugarloaf Shane
                  I think calling the "scrubs" is harsh, especially on Cotto's part. Clottey isnt a scrub, but he fought like one....there was no conceivable way he could win the fight with the style he used. Cotto fought a positive fight early. He boxed pretty well and he actually landed some huge shots in exchanges. Cotto fought with an intent to win (until he was just too battered after round 6) and landed hard punches, Pac was just too fast and has too good of a chin. Cotto's gameplan was to check Pac's chin at 147, I think he did it......Pac just passed the test with flying colors.

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                  • Originally posted by bored of education View Post
                    ughhhh this does nothing to help Pac in my eyes, his last few fights were against scrubs. Clottey ughhh I thought he would show up. Cotto was a shell of his former self. Hopefully Pac fights FMJr so I can tell people to **** about Pac, Pac is ver good, but fMJr is godly. I am interested in the pasting FMJr will give to Sugarloaf Shane
                    Mayfeather will never fight pac boe face it!

                    I see it like this, he doesn't want to take a chance at having that one lost to Manny, his ego is too big.

                    Keep ducking and dodging


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                    • Originally posted by bantx View Post
                      Mayfeather will never fight pac boe face it!

                      I see it like this, he doesn't want to take a chance at having that one lost to Manny, his ego is too big.

                      Keep ducking and dodging
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                      • Originally posted by bantx View Post
                        Mayfeather will never fight pac boe face it!

                        I see it like this, he doesn't want to take a chance at having that one lost to Manny, his ego is too big.

                        Keep ducking and dodging
                        I'm not even close to being an avid boxing fan so this is straight confusion on my part but, I thought it was the other way around.

                        Mayweather wanted olympic style drug tests that PacMan absolutely refused to do. I heard they don't want him getting blood taken from him that close to the fight but I have no idea who to believe.


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                        • It pretty much not a cut and dry situation. A compromise should have been easily reached, but both guys refused to budge and the fight was ruined. Both of them are at fault.
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                          • IDK how Manny fought "scrubs" compared to Floyd Mayweather...

                            They particularly fought the same guys.

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                            • Those guys are only considered "scrubs" after Manny destroys them. Before every one of his last 4 fights all I heard is how he would be abused by the bigger man, than the second he wins it's because his opponents are trash. I mean Hatton's only loss was to Floyd then all of a sudden people say he's the equivalent to Jose Canseco. Cotto is the reigning welterweight champ then when he losses to Manny apparently its because he didn't have the heart to box anymore, or that he had already been washed up and that Clottey really beat him in their matchup. Then Manny beats Clottey and all of a sudden Clottey isn't considered the top 5 welterweight he was prior to the fight. Look I'm not saying Manny got the best from any of them, but the fact is that all of these fights when he signed them were incredibly dangerous especially Cotto and IMO even Clottey. I just think his speed is too much for most welterweights. It's amazing though because Manny still isn't really even a Welterweight. He probably was around 143 on actual fight night where most welterweights are close to 160. Manny is smaller and shorter than every welterweight he has fought, yet it appears that he has more power than any of them.

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                              • Originally posted by SeanTaylorRIP View Post
                                Those guys are only considered "scrubs" after Manny destroys them. Before every one of his last 4 fights all I heard is how he would be abused by the bigger man, than the second he wins it's because his opponents are trash. I mean Hatton's only loss was to Floyd then all of a sudden people say he's the equivalent to Jose Canseco. Cotto is the reigning welterweight champ then when he losses to Manny apparently its because he didn't have the heart to box anymore, or that he had already been washed up and that Clottey really beat him in their matchup. Then Manny beats Clottey and all of a sudden Clottey isn't considered the top 5 welterweight he was prior to the fight. Look I'm not saying Manny got the best from any of them, but the fact is that all of these fights when he signed them were incredibly dangerous especially Cotto and IMO even Clottey. I just think his speed is too much for most welterweights. It's amazing though because Manny still isn't really even a Welterweight. He probably was around 143 on actual fight night where most welterweights are close to 160. Manny is smaller and shorter than every welterweight he has fought, yet it appears that he has more power than any of them.
                                No real intelligent boxing fan hates on the Cotto or Clottey wins, they are legit wins. Just ignore anyone who hates on those, seriously. The Hatton win, a lot of people thought he may be done before the Manny fight, and I think he probably was. Takes nothing away from Manny's victories over Cotto and Clottey tho.

                                Saying Manny has more power than top WW fighters is incorrect imo. He has a chin that holds up at WW, thats for sure,but I don't think he is a huge puncher at 147. He hits hard, yes, but I dont think he has that knock you cold power.....what he does do though is throw more punches than anyone at the weight and the combinations/repeated punches just beat guys down. I don't think there is any way Manny hits harder than Cotto, no way. The thing that makes Manny great is that he can take the strongest WW punches (ie: Cotto fight), while WW's can't handle his combination punching. Don't get me wrong, Manny's power translates and guys cant just walk through his shots, but he doesn't have elite WW power, it is very good tho.
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