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  • #61
    Originally posted by someone447 View Post
    No kidding, sorry to all you people who have ethics, the people without them are going to pass you up in every way. You won't even be able to look back at your life and feel better about it, because I don't feel guilty about what I do in any way, shape or form.
    I'm exactly the same man, if i didn't cheat through high school i probably wouldn't have the opportunities i have at University i have now, and i'm making the most of these opportunites so i struggle to see the problem. Sure i could of worked hard but then i'd be in the exact same position i'm in now and highschool wouldn't have been nearly as fun. In other words i have no regrets about cheating in the past, i'd still be cheating if it wasn't so risky.
    And how can you honestly feel guilty about school? that i just don't get

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    • #62
      Originally posted by someone447 View Post
      With the rampant grade inflation going on in colleges around the country(probably also the world) getting better grades by cheating doesn't mean a whole lot. The ability to cheat and get away with it is at least as useful, if not more useful, than the actual learning going on in college. Life is not fair, it cannot and will not ever be fair. You can be on the side that complains how it isn't fair, or you can take matters into your own hands. I would prefer to take matters into my own hands, but only when the rewards outweigh the risks.

      Tell me, for the vast majority of graduates, who do not end up even using their degree as they intended, what good does knowing the specifics you are taught in school do you? What exactly will I need to know a specific historical date for? What will someone who majors in biology, but ends up working in a cubicle(because face it, the vast majority of people do end up working that type of job) need to know about the specifics of biology, that any competent person can easily look up?
      First of all, I have no idea what college you attend, but most colleges teach you a combination of functional skills (ie. accounting, researching, writing, experimenting, etc.) and knowledge. If you think either of those things is useless, you clearly don't understand what it takes to be successful. You can't just "look up" how to effectively design a car, or analyze a problem in a business and solve it.

      Second of all, this is why cheating help nobody:
      1) The person who cheats - they don't learn anything and this will likely be quickly discovered by whoever hires them...if they even get that far
      2) The university - they get a bad reputation because they produce unqualified graduates
      3) The other graduates - they can't get jobs because the cheaters make them all look bad

      It's a lose-lose.

      Hell, if you're just using college to be able to show off a few good marks why not just forge a diploma and transcript and save yourself time and money?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by gbpackers0065 View Post
        Would, "get off your ass and study" work better?
        lol, I meant I was just rambling on with my post. But yeah studying would probably be a good thing.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by someone447 View Post
          With the rampant grade inflation going on in colleges around the country(probably also the world) getting better grades by cheating doesn't mean a whole lot. The ability to cheat and get away with it is at least as useful, if not more useful, than the actual learning going on in college. Life is not fair, it cannot and will not ever be fair. You can be on the side that complains how it isn't fair, or you can take matters into your own hands. I would prefer to take matters into my own hands, but only when the rewards outweigh the risks.

          Tell me, for the vast majority of graduates, who do not end up even using their degree as they intended, what good does knowing the specifics you are taught in school do you? What exactly will I need to know a specific historical date for? What will someone who majors in biology, but ends up working in a cubicle(because face it, the vast majority of people do end up working that type of job) need to know about the specifics of biology, that any competent person can easily look up?
          haha, that first part is so awesomely true. And the rest is 100% correct in my opinion, sure if your doing a specific degree which directly relates to a career path afterwards then cheating probably wouldn't be brilliant. But even in saying this, as someone who has a job that directly relates to their degree i can honestly say that 98% of what is expected of me is learnt on the job, and doesnt relate to my university degree a great deal at all. I imagine its slightly different for a doctor for example but whatever.

          But considering i spend most of my day here and the rest of the internet i may not be the best example

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          • #65
            sit next to a hot chick that looks smart

            then, when you have group projects, she knows all the answers and you get credit for the project

            easy "A"

            works all the time

            cred 2 BoneKrusher

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            • #66
              Originally posted by 7-11 View Post
              I'm exactly the same man, if i didn't cheat through high school i probably wouldn't have the opportunities i have at University i have now, and i'm making the most of these opportunites so i struggle to see the problem. Sure i could of worked hard but then i'd be in the exact same position i'm in now and highschool wouldn't have been nearly as fun. In other words i have no regrets about cheating in the past, i'd still be cheating if it wasn't so risky.
              And how can you honestly feel guilty about school? that i just don't get
              Do you think Martha Stewart feels guilty? I doubt it. Same with the countless other people who cheat in the "real world."

              Maybe it is because I am an egoist, and I believe the world would work better if everyone looks out for themselves first and foremost.
              I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
              Hunter S. Thompson

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Moses View Post
                First of all, I have no idea what college you attend, but most colleges teach you a combination of functional skills (ie. accounting, researching, writing, experimenting, etc.) and knowledge. If you think either of those things is useless, you clearly don't understand what it takes to be successful. You can't just "look up" how to effectively design a car, or analyze a problem in a business and solve it.

                Second of all, this is why cheating help nobody:
                1) The person who cheats - they don't learn anything and this will likely be quickly discovered by whoever hires them...if they even get that far
                2) The university - they get a bad reputation because they produce unqualified graduates
                3) The other graduates - they can't get jobs because the cheaters make them all look bad

                It's a lose-lose.

                Hell, if you're just using college to be able to show off a few good marks why not just forge a diploma and transcript and save yourself time and money?
                Good luck getting away with cheating on most of the functional skills you listed, and if you are able to, you will be able to get through anything, because you are able to play the system. There are so many anti cheating measures taken against those things you listed if you are able to avoid those and still cheat, you will be able to play the system your whole life.
                I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
                Hunter S. Thompson

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                  Good luck getting away with cheating on most of the functional skills you listed, and if you are able to, you will be able to get through anything, because you are able to play the system. There are so many anti cheating measures taken against those things you listed if you are able to avoid those and still cheat, you will be able to play the system your whole life.
                  What are you talking about?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by 7-11 View Post
                    haha, that first part is so awesomely true. And the rest is 100% correct in my opinion, sure if your doing a specific degree which directly relates to a career path afterwards then cheating probably wouldn't be brilliant. But even in saying this, as someone who has a job that directly relates to their degree i can honestly say that 98% of what is expected of me is learnt on the job, and doesnt relate to my university degree a great deal at all. I imagine its slightly different for a doctor for example but whatever.

                    But considering i spend most of my day here and the rest of the internet i may not be the best example
                    You are the best example. The majority of people will probably be doing something a lot like you are doing, just in a different field. Experience is where you learn, not from school.

                    It seems to me that Moses has a lot to learn about the real world. NO ONE is qualified for a job coming out of college, that is why(unless they have connections) have to pay their dues, learning on the job.
                    I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
                    Hunter S. Thompson

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Moses View Post
                      First of all, I have no idea what college you attend, but most colleges teach you a combination of functional skills (ie. accounting, researching, writing, experimenting, etc.) and knowledge. If you think either of those things is useless, you clearly don't understand what it takes to be successful. You can't just "look up" how to effectively design a car, or analyze a problem in a business and solve it.

                      Second of all, this is why cheating help nobody:
                      1) The person who cheats - they don't learn anything and this will likely be quickly discovered by whoever hires them...if they even get that far
                      2) The university - they get a bad reputation because they produce unqualified graduates
                      3) The other graduates - they can't get jobs because the cheaters make them all look bad

                      It's a lose-lose.

                      Hell, if you're just using college to be able to show off a few good marks why not just forge a diploma and transcript and save yourself time and money?
                      Everything you say is quite true, in theory anyway. Now i understand your a smart dude and i respect this ethics stuff but as someone who works fulltime as a financial adviser and and does university part-time at night just listen for a sec. Now this wokring while at uni thing is quite common for kids to do over here, you know why? Because employers don't want a fully qualified accountant or whatever that has no practical experience, because lets face it, they are essentially useless in the business world. Now from my sisters experience it is really really hard to break into the financial sector with a full degree and no practical experience, firms will just not do it as it just isnt financially liable these days.

                      Dunno if this even makes sense cause i'm coming off 4 hours sleep and i really cant be bothered to read what i just wrote but its just a little bit of something from a kid who is already in the business world whilst still at university

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Moses View Post
                        What are you talking about?
                        At least at the schools I have went to plagiarism is INCREDIBLY difficult to get away with. In fact, I would argue that you have to do more work to get past the plagiarism detectors in place than you would to just write the damn thing.

                        Tell me, as a boss, would you rather have someone who is "street smart" or "book smart?" The people who get things done are the ones who can play the system. Those are the people you want on your side, those are the people who will be wildly successful. Those are the people who will do the dirty work needed to be successful.
                        I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
                        Hunter S. Thompson

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by 7-11 View Post
                          Everything you say is quite true, in theory anyway. Now i understand your a smart dude and i respect this ethics stuff but as someone who works fulltime as a financial adviser and and does university part-time at night just listen for a sec. Now this wokring while at uni thing is quite common for kids to do over here, you know why? Because employers don't want a fully qualified accountant or whatever that has no practical experience, because lets face it, they are essentially useless in the business world. Now from my sisters experience it is really really hard to break into the financial sector with a full degree and no practical experience, firms will just not do it as it just isnt financially liable these days.

                          Dunno if this even makes sense cause i'm coming off 4 hours sleep and i really cant be bothered to read what i just wrote but its just a little bit of something from a kid who is already in the business world whilst still at university
                          It makes perfect sense. I have no practical experience because I am not sure what I am going to do. As of now, I am planning on coaching football, so playing for Jerry Glanville is my practical experience. But I have no idea if I will still plan on doing that in three years when I graduate.

                          I also respect his ethics, but I would also like to point out, that people like you are the people that people like me will take advantage of.
                          I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
                          Hunter S. Thompson

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                            You are the best example. The majority of people will probably be doing something a lot like you are doing, just in a different field. Experience is where you learn, not from school.

                            It seems to me that Moses has a lot to learn about the real world. NO ONE is qualified for a job coming out of college, that is why(unless they have connections) have to pay their dues, learning on the job.
                            Right, because college is not an experience. Students don't learn anything about the real world. Just pointless historical dates. I would love to know what school you attended where that was the extent of your learning and none of it applied to the real world.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                              At least at the schools I have went to plagiarism is INCREDIBLY difficult to get away with. In fact, I would argue that you have to do more work to get past the plagiarism detectors in place than you would to just write the damn thing.

                              Tell me, as a boss, would you rather have someone who is "street smart" or "book smart?" The people who get things done are the ones who can play the system. Those are the people you want on your side, those are the people who will be wildly successful. Those are the people who will do the dirty work needed to be successful.
                              hahaha

                              I don't believe you are actually writing this. Street smart? Book smart? Give me a break. That is garbage.

                              How is not going to class, ignoring your schoolwork, and just copying off somebody or whatever better than going to class, doing your schoolwork, and earning your grade? How does "playing the system" make you a better worker?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by 7-11 View Post
                                Everything you say is quite true, in theory anyway. Now i understand your a smart dude and i respect this ethics stuff but as someone who works fulltime as a financial adviser and and does university part-time at night just listen for a sec. Now this wokring while at uni thing is quite common for kids to do over here, you know why? Because employers don't want a fully qualified accountant or whatever that has no practical experience, because lets face it, they are essentially useless in the business world. Now from my sisters experience it is really really hard to break into the financial sector with a full degree and no practical experience, firms will just not do it as it just isnt financially liable these days.

                                Dunno if this even makes sense cause i'm coming off 4 hours sleep and i really cant be bothered to read what i just wrote but its just a little bit of something from a kid who is already in the business world whilst still at university
                                Right, so you need experience, knowledge, and skills...

                                Don't know what your point is.

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