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  • Originally posted by P-L View Post
    This will never happen. Everyone always jumps all over Fox News but rarely is it acknowledged that there are news sources (MSNBC being one of them) that are just as biased towards the opposite end of the spectrum.
    Fox News manufacturs propoganda as news. MSNBC reports news from a left-leaning perspective. There's a difference.

    When, in 2004, Fox News asked if John Kerry "looked too French" during an actual news broadcast, I stopped even considering them a news source. There are legit sources of right-leaning news (Wall Street Journal for example), but Fox News is smut and trash. Not because it's right-leaning, because it plays to the fears and the stupidity of America, which is exactly the opposite of what news should be about. CNN is almost as bad by the way, and anyone that thinks CNN is liberal is out of their ******* mind. James Carville is not a liberal. Bill Clinton is not a liberal.

    This is NOT, by the way, a left-leaning country. Canada is a left leaning country. France is a left leaning country. We are one of the most economically and culturally conservative democratic countries on the planet.


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    • Originally posted by Addict View Post
      you know, for someone with that username, that's a pretty ignorant statement. The Daily Show is not, and doesn't pretend to be, a news show. Their JOB is to joke around about daily events. They don't act like a news organisation, don't pretend to be right and sure as hell don't pretend to be journalists.

      He's NOT a journalist. The Daily Show is on COMEDY CENTRAL for crying out loud, what the hell do you expect from them except jokes?
      And Cramer jumps around on his show mashing buttons, yelling things, and making crude remarks. The difference is that he actually does include some relevant news/commentary into his entertainment. Why does Cramer have this big responsibility to educate the masses and shine his "regulatory light" on the markets when Stewart can just sit back and crack jokes?

      Both these guys have the same job: to get ratings. Both do a good job at it. What's the difference? Why doesn't Stewart go on CNN or something and use his popularity to bring up real issues? Because that's not what he does! And it's also not what Cramer does! He gives his commentary on the market with a fun/exciting twist. Nothing more, nothing less.

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      • Originally posted by Brodeur View Post
        He's a Xenophobic centrist for the most part.
        Exactemundo.
        Credit to BoneKrusher for the Sig
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        • Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
          Fox News manufacturs propoganda as news. MSNBC reports news from a left-leaning perspective. There's a difference.

          When, in 2004, Fox News asked if John Kerry "looked too French" during an actual news broadcast, I stopped even considering them a news source. There are legit sources of right-leaning news (Wall Street Journal for example), but Fox News is smut and trash. Not because it's right-leaning, because it plays to the fears and the stupidity of America, which is exactly the opposite of what news should be about. CNN is almost as bad by the way, and anyone that thinks CNN is liberal is out of their ******* mind. James Carville is not a liberal. Bill Clinton is not a liberal.

          This is NOT, by the way, a left-leaning country. Canada is a left leaning country. France is a left leaning country. We are one of the most economically and culturally conservative democratic countries on the planet.
          +rep when I can give it again.

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          • Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
            Fox News manufacturs propoganda as news. MSNBC reports news from a left-leaning perspective. There's a difference.

            When, in 2004, Fox News asked if John Kerry "looked too French" during an actual news broadcast, I stopped even considering them a news source. There are legit sources of right-leaning news (Wall Street Journal for example), but Fox News is smut and trash. Not because it's right-leaning, because it plays to the fears and the stupidity of America, which is exactly the opposite of what news should be about. CNN is almost as bad by the way, and anyone that thinks CNN is liberal is out of their ******* mind. James Carville is not a liberal. Bill Clinton is not a liberal.

            This is NOT, by the way, a left-leaning country. Canada is a left leaning country. France is a left leaning country. We are one of the most economically and culturally conservative democratic countries on the planet.
            The American definitions of a liberal and conservative are both very far from their actual definitions. Any time someone is even remotely liberal by definition in this country they get labeled as a socialist or god forbid, a communist.


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            • Originally posted by Brodeur View Post
              The American definitions of a liberal and conservative are both very far from their actual definitions. Any time someone is even remotely liberal by definition in this country they get labeled as a socialist or god forbid, a communist.
              In America, the left is in the center and called liberal.

              BTW, if anyone wants to see the whole unedited interview, it's all on The Daily Show site.

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              • this is a very INteresting thread

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                • Fox News is hilarious...



                  I'm still undecided whether they are consciously acting like that or if they really are that ignorant and don't see any issues with their actions.

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                  • Originally posted by josh07039 View Post
                    Thats not true at all, Cnn is really left. Having a guy like David Gergen, Paul Begala, James Carville, etc is hardly balanced and centrist.
                    But CNN also has right wing anchors. That is how they are balanced. Fox and MSNBC don't even have token anchors of the opposite side.
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                    • Originally posted by I KNOW IT ALL View Post
                      I'm still undecided whether they are consciously acting like that or if they really are that ignorant and don't see any issues with their actions.
                      They do it because it nets ratings.

                      Originally posted by someone447 View Post
                      But CNN also has right wing anchors. That is how they are balanced. Fox and MSNBC don't even have token anchors of the opposite side.
                      Yeah they got rid of Alan Colmes on Fox.

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                      • Originally posted by Brent View Post
                        They do it because it nets ratings.
                        I agree, but I'm just wondering if it's conscious all the time. I think the same thing will Bill O. He makes tons of outlandish statements but he seems to actually believe them. Hard to say if you ask me.

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                        • Originally posted by I KNOW IT ALL View Post
                          I agree, but I'm just wondering if it's conscious all the time. I think the same thing will Bill O. He makes tons of outlandish statements but he seems to actually believe them. Hard to say if you ask me.
                          I think a lot of their on-camera people feel they way the act (at least they play it up a bit more on-camera). As for the people that work there or run the channel, they may or may not feel that way but their job is to get ratings, not to agree with what is said on camera. Hell, if I am not mistaken, Rupert Murdock donated a lot of money to Hillary Clinton's campaign even though he owns FoxNews and the Wall Street Journal.

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                          • Originally posted by I KNOW IT ALL View Post
                            And Cramer jumps around on his show mashing buttons, yelling things, and making crude remarks. The difference is that he actually does include some relevant news/commentary into his entertainment. Why does Cramer have this big responsibility to educate the masses and shine his "regulatory light" on the markets when Stewart can just sit back and crack jokes?

                            Both these guys have the same job: to get ratings. Both do a good job at it. What's the difference? Why doesn't Stewart go on CNN or something and use his popularity to bring up real issues? Because that's not what he does! And it's also not what Cramer does! He gives his commentary on the market with a fun/exciting twist. Nothing more, nothing less.
                            BECAUSE HE CLAIMS TO BE A LEGITIMATE NEWS SOURCE!! That is why he needs to be held to a higher standard. Like Stewart said, if he(or more accurately CNN) would stop implying he was always right, this wouldn't be a problem. Don't claim to be a legitimate news source and then claim you are only trying to get ratings. It doesn't work that way, one or the other.
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                            • Originally posted by Brent View Post
                              They do it because it nets ratings.


                              Yeah they got rid of Alan Colmes on Fox.
                              He was hardly a liberal anchor anyway. He was put there to timidly disagree with Hannity and then fold when he brought up another point.
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                              • Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                                Fox News manufacturs propoganda as news. MSNBC reports news from a left-leaning perspective. There's a difference.

                                When, in 2004, Fox News asked if John Kerry "looked too French" during an actual news broadcast, I stopped even considering them a news source. There are legit sources of right-leaning news (Wall Street Journal for example), but Fox News is smut and trash. Not because it's right-leaning, because it plays to the fears and the stupidity of America, which is exactly the opposite of what news should be about. CNN is almost as bad by the way, and anyone that thinks CNN is liberal is out of their ******* mind. James Carville is not a liberal. Bill Clinton is not a liberal.

                                This is NOT, by the way, a left-leaning country. Canada is a left leaning country. France is a left leaning country. We are one of the most economically and culturally conservative democratic countries on the planet.
                                MSNBC is nearly as bad as Fox News. Give it a few years of the Obama presidency and you will see them becoming the propoganda mouthpiece. CNN is no where near as bad as Fox and MSNBC.

                                I think we can all agree the MSM is terrible, and in the internet age won't be able to stand up to the increasingly online news. Getting your news from a bunch of different sources is always the best idea. Read and watch things with completely different slants, and use your own judgment to decide which is right.
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