The Official Hip Hop Thread

[Hines]

Rolling Papers leaked.

[RaiderNation]

Rolling Papers leaked.

Where at??

[TACKLE]

Rolling Papers leaked.

Actually it came out last August :/


i know you're talkin about wiz but he stole the name

[Hines]

Where at??

I just heard most of the CD on Youtube. I'll have to listen again.

[TheFinisher]

So I've been hearing a lot about this Lil B guy and I decided to check him out, this is what I found.



Now, over the past 5 or so years I've been thinking hip hop took a turn for the worst. This video pretty much sums it up for me, there is something seriously wrong with the rest of my generation. What is appealing about this guy or the other mentally ******** popular rappers like Gucci, Flocka, Wayne, etc.? Even Wiz Khalifa and Drake have zero talent but they're popular because they're sell outs, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone who's a fan of these guys but it ****** me off.

[RaiderNation]

Ya Ive listen to a few now already. Rooftops ft Currensy is my favourite outside of tracks that have already been released. The beats in all the songs are crazy thats for sure

[JRTPlaya21]

Old Drake in my opinion had a lot of talent. It just sucks he landed with Young Money. Look up "Think Good Thoughts" if you thank Drake had zero talent back then. And you gotta understand our generation has a lot of different type of likes. People either like stuff they can bump in their car, thought provoking rappers or they just roll with whatever trend is currently popular.

[ccB]

So I've been hearing a lot about this Lil B guy and I decided to check him out, this is what I found.



Now, over the past 5 or so years I've been thinking hip hop took a turn for the worst. This video pretty much sums it up for me, there is something seriously wrong with the rest of my generation. What is appealing about this guy or the other mentally ******** popular rappers like Gucci, Flocka, Wayne, etc.? Even Wiz Khalifa and Drake have zero talent but they're popular because they're sell outs, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone who's a fan of these guys but it ****** me off.

Ahhhh Hip Hop snobs, you're just as bad as the people who listen to strictly Guccie, Flocka, and wayne.

I personally think it's beautiful how Hip Hop has branched off into these different sub genres. Let people express themselves the way they wanna express themselves, everyone doesn't have to be a Lupe or a Jay Electronica. If that's what you like there are plenty of artists out that put out that type of music.

I love that I can put on some Jay Electronica and zone the **** out, listening to him weave through a song like a hip hop wizard.

I also love that I can throw on some lil b, and wild the **** out listening to him talk about violating bitches orally. That's the based movement, flowing unconsciously not giving a **** about what people think about what you say. Lil B calls himself a pretty ***** and doesn't give a **** if you think that's *** or not because he could probably **** your *****.

and the dude has skills, he ethered everyones favorite mixtape rapper:


On a track with 9th wonder, Phonte, and Jean Grae



"based for your face, two times, you don't see no acting, all they do is rhyme words such typical rappers"



went bananas on the XXL cypher:





stop taking everything so serious and stop holding everything to the same standards. The guys not trying to be KRS One, he's clearly got skill, he just wants to do it his way not how he is "supposed" to do it. All these hip hop heads getting butt hurt are missing the point, it's like no one let yall in on the joke. Yall are the same ************* that are in a tizzy over that Rebecca Black *****.

The whole based movement is about making something out of nothing, and if you wrap your head around that idea you see the genius in what the dude has done. Lil B is not dumb, to me he's like the rap Borat and when he fools people like you I lulz



THANK YOU BASeDGOD!

[TACKLE]

^^^^^^^
winner.


admittedly, I used to be a bit of a hip-hop snob myself and was pretty bored with new stuff but have definitely changed my attitude towards it recently. I still am a bit of a snob but only really when people start ranking rappers or wanna label someone "best rapper alive". one of the great thing that's so great about hip-hop, is the diversity that exists within it. basically every other genre in some form, is contained within hip-hop. the genre is pretty much limitless. there's a lot of crap out there, no denying that. but as long as there's still creative minds out there who aren't afraid to try new things and push the boundaries, hip-hop will continue to live. some may say lil b is killing hip-hop, but the fact that he's so creative, so unique and isn't afraid to try anything, might just mean the opposite.

[TheFinisher]

I have no problem with artists doing their own thing, that's the way it should be. The problem I have is that imagery and portrayal of an artist are now valued much more than skill level, it's almost like the industry doesn't care about skills anymore. As long as you're talking about swag this or swag that, you're gonna blow up. In the 90s dudes like Busta Rhymes, Bone Thugs, and Redman brought their own style into hip hop, creating new sub genres, it was different but sounded cool because they had crazy skills. When I hear **** now, 90% of the time I ask myself how in the hell did this guy get a record deal?

The difference in the standards throughout the masses and throughout the industry is what I have a problem with.

[619]

Yeah, no need to be a hip-hop snob.

I'm also one to switch between different forms of hip-hop, depending on what I'm feeling for at the time. Whether it's Wiz, Mac Miller, J Cole, Big Krit, it doesn't matter. And I pay homage to old school classics occasionally, too.

I'm not going to stray away from what I find as appealing, just because it has a "mainstream" sound to it.

[619]

Those aren't the only rappers I listen to, but some of my favs for sure lol.

I find it amusing that we always settle onto this argument every so often.

[bantx]

Thank based god.

swag

[ShutDwn]

I have no problem with artists doing their own thing, that's the way it should be. The problem I have is that imagery and portrayal of an artist are now valued much more than skill level, it's almost like the industry doesn't care about skills anymore. As long as you're talking about swag this or swag that, you're gonna blow up. In the 90s dudes like Busta Rhymes, Bone Thugs, and Redman brought their own style into hip hop, creating new sub genres, it was different but sounded cool because they had crazy skills. When I hear **** now, 90% of the time I ask myself how in the hell did this guy get a record deal?

The difference in the standards throughout the masses and throughout the industry is what I have a problem with.

I agree with you man, the term talented has lost some meaning.

I think that it has a ton to do with the internet. Artists release insane amounts of music and kids eat it up and they don't have to pay for it so in some aspects I think that the standards have dropped because there is no investment being made.

"Aside from his involvement with the Pack, Lil B garnered popularity through the use of social media Web sites. He created over 155 MySpace pages in order to upload all of his music. He recorded over 1,500 tracks as of July 2010"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lil_B

That really just says to me that he puts minimal effort in to each song and just pumps them out. But then people call it good because it didn't cost them anything? I guess that is where his "based god movement" comes in? I feel like flowing and not giving a **** really just means you suck at freestyling.

Rap isn't so much about being talented anymore as it is about constantly working on something so they stay in the kid's heads.

This argument always reminds me of how people reacted to punk music. Although I still consider lil B a passing phase.

[TACKLE]

I have no problem with artists doing their own thing, that's the way it should be. The problem I have is that imagery and portrayal of an artist are now valued much more than skill level, it's almost like the industry doesn't care about skills anymore. As long as you're talking about swag this or swag that, you're gonna blow up. In the 90s dudes like Busta Rhymes, Bone Thugs, and Redman brought their own style into hip hop, creating new sub genres, it was different but sounded cool because they had crazy skills. When I hear **** now, 90% of the time I ask myself how in the hell did this guy get a record deal?

The difference in the standards throughout the masses and throughout the industry is what I have a problem with.

It never did. It was always all about the Benjamins. But regardless the time, era or genre, people have always adjusted their standards to whatever the industry has pushed on them. Even in hip-hop's heyday, the artist who got record deals were the artists the labels felt were most marketable and could make them the most money. That's just the way it all works.

I agree with you that having standards is very important. There is a ton of crap out there but there's still good music being produced - you (and I) may just need to look a little harder. There's nothing you or I can do about changing people's standards to meet our own so you might as well just accept that the different standards and different tastes are apart of the diversity within hip-hop.