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  • #31
    you guys underestimate Tactica by a lot...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by *** Ork Wang View Post
      you guys underestimate Tactica by a lot...
      I believe it is you that underestimates Stiller.


      The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

      If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

      <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
      <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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      • #33
        while Blindsite is the biggest douche of the group that doesnt make him the biggest homer

        Chucky for example believes that Jason Kapono is the best shooter in the nba

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mr. Stiller View Post
          I have a question then.

          With Gonzo and Winslow out of the conference, is this the year Heath Miller could make the Pro-Bowl?
          Originally posted by Mr. Stiller View Post
          Not to mention Farrior/Lewis are 2 of the best Blitzing LB's in the game, toppled with LaMarr Woodley waiting in the wings when a guy needs a breather.

          (Not to mention Lawrence Timmons who could attack the QB from Any LB position, or cover teams #3 WR or TE.)

          Ike Taylor Shut out TO last season. Not to mention Moss wouldn't be able to get past both Reed AND Polamalu.

          Personally, I think the Notables Guys even leans to AFC North (Considering who you had to leave off..

          S. Holmes, R. Mendenhall...)

          Not to mention Rey Maualuga, Andre Smith, and Michael Johnson just from Cincy alone could make depth even more intriguing in AFCN's favor.
          Originally posted by Mr. Stiller View Post
          HAHAHA Steelers Got Hosed.

          If Only an All-Pro LG and 2nd Highest Contract winner with a Pro-bowl showing deserved more than a 5th.

          If only Alan Faneca was as good a guard as Gibril Wilson, Bernard Berrian... heck Odom, Florence even Jake Scott (Another guard that IIRC didn't have post season Honors)..

          3rd Round Comp (in order):
          New England - Asante Samuel
          Cincinnati - Justin Smith
          Chicago - Bernard Berrian
          New York Giants - Gibril Wilson

          4th Round Comp (in order):
          San Diego - Michael Turner
          San Diego - Drayton Florence
          Tennessee - Antwan Odom
          Indianapolis - Jake Scott

          5th Round Comp (in order)
          Pittsburgh - Alan Faneca
          New England - Donte Stallworth
          San Francisco - Kwame Harris
          Dallas - Jacques Reeves
          Tennessee - Travis LaBoy
          Originally posted by Mr. Stiller
          Interesting Article:

          Believe it or not, Ben Roethlisberger’s first 5 NFL season compare favorably with what Tom Brady accomplished during his first 5 seasons. Let’s take a closer look:

          Ben Roethlisberger, first 5 years:
          14,974 yards 62.4 comp% 101 TD, 69 INT, 7.9 YPA, 89.4 QB Rating, 51 wins, 2 SB's

          Tom Brady, first 5 years:
          13925 yards, 61.5 comp%, 97 TD, 52 INT, 6.9 YPA, 87.4 QB Rating, 48 wins, 3 SB's

          As you can see Roethlisberger bests Brady in wins, completion %, YPA, QB rating, and TD passes. After 5 years there was no doubt that Tom Brady was elite, at least that is what the media told us. Ben Roethlisberger is lucky to get mentioned as a top 5 QB by some, let alone elite. Now let’s wrap our heads around what each player did in the playoffs to win his first 2 Super Bowls. Here is a stat line from each playoff game for the two player’s first two runs to the big game.

          Tom Brady
          21 - 41 201 yards 1 TD 0 INT 4.9 YPA 51.2% 73.3 rating
          22 - 37 237 yards 1 TD 1 INT 6.4 YPA 59.5% 76.1 rating
          32 - 48 354 yards 3 TD 1 INT 7.4 YPA 66.7% 100.5 rating
          32 - 52 312 yards 0 TD 1 INT 6.0 YPA 61.5% 70.4 rating
          12 - 18 115 yards 0 TD 0 INT 6.4 YPA 66.7% 84.3 rating
          16 - 27 145 yards 1 TD 0 INT 5.4 YPA 59.3% 86.2 rating
          Totals: 227 YPG 6 TD 3 INT 6.1 YPA 60.5% 81.3 rating

          Ben Roethlisberger
          14 - 19 208 yards 3 TD 0 INT 10.9 YPA 73.7% 148.7 rating
          14 - 24 197 yards 2 TD 1 INT 8.2 YPA 58.3% 95.3 rating
          21 - 29 275 yards 2 TD 0 INT 9.5 YPA 72.4% 124.9 rating
          9 - 21 123 yards 0 TD 2 INT 5.9 YPA 42.9% 22.6 rating
          17 - 26 181 yards 1 TD 0 INT 7.0 YPA 65.4% 98.4 rating
          16 - 33 255 yards 1 TD 0 INT 7.7 YPA 48.5% 84.8 rating
          21 - 30 256 yards 1 TD 1 INT 8.5 YPA 70.0% 93.2 rating
          Totals: 213 YPG 10 TD 4 INT 8.2 YPA 61.5% 96.6 rating

          The conventional wisdom (i.e. what the media has told us) is that Roethlisberger was carried by a great defense and running game, while the infallible Tom Brady was the main factor behind the Patriots success. As we can see here Roethlisberger had more TD passes, a much better YPA, a better completions % and far superior QB rating on his two Super Bowl runs than Tom Brady had on his first two runs. In fact on his first run to a SB title at age 23 Roethlisberger threw more TD passes (7) than Tom Brady did in his first two runs to the SB combined (6). Roethlisberger had a whopping 5 out of 7 games with a QB rating over 93. We have heard time and time again “yeah but, Ben played awful in SBXL”. There is some truth to that, he did play like a 23 year old full of nerves in that game, but the three road games he won on the strength of his passing game often gets over-looked. Tom Brady was much the game manager on his first SB run, throwing 1 TD and 1 INT in three games combined, and he threw for less than 150 total yards in 2 of those 3 games. This is not to discredit Tom Brady as both players have built great legacies, but is more of an attempt to shine the light on the fact that Roethlisberger is at least Tom Brady’s equal at a similar point in his career, yet Big Ben has gotten 1/10th the credit by that Brady has received.


          The historical player who is the best comparison for Ben Roethlisberger is John Elway, a player widely considered one of the 5 best QB's to ever play the game. Here is how they stack up after 5 years in the NFL:

          Ben Roethlisberger
          14,974 yards 62.4 comp% 101 TD, 69 INT, 7.9 YPA, 89.4 QB Rating, 51 wins, 2 SB wins

          John Elway
          14,835 yards 54.1 comp% 85 TD, 77 INT, 6.8 YPA, 74.9 QB rating, 46 wins, 0 SB wins
          Originally posted by Mr. Stiller View Post
          Yeah, most people focus on the drops, but fail to realize how amazing his route running progressed and his deep speed is ridiculous.

          In the AFC Championship game he made one of their Nickel CB's look terrible, they kept biting on all his fakes (Head fake, double move) but he was getting WIDE open.

          He starts catching better, he'll be what Plax was supposed to be for us, but faster.

          Not to mention, ask the same CB about his ability to Ward-Block.
          Some samples of Stiller's work, since TL and BlindSite have already been quoted here.


          The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

          If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

          <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
          <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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          • #35
            I've had some epic battles with Stiller over how i refuse to believe Roethlisberger is an elite QB and how DeMarcus Ware should have won DPOY. There's no fighting his homerism.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Dam8610 View Post
              I believe it is you that underestimates Stiller.
              no i know stiller, he is a big homer. but come on, tactica was asking if Millen was really that bad at drafting.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by fenikz View Post

                Chucky for example believes that Jason Kapono is the best shooter in the nba
                Haha, That's preposterous. Everyone knows its Redick.

                Those posts by stiller make me well, not happy.

                What do the vikings and marijuana have in common? Every time you put them in a bowl
                they get smoked.

                2010-2011 Super Bowl Champions
                Hint:Not the Bears.

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                • #38
                  Mr.Stiller could have taken my vote, but the Blindside name jumped out at me more. I see so many homer Steeler fans that they began to blend together....i felt like voting for a guy who is mostly alone in homer'ing for his team...


                  Courtesy of Fenikz - Much Appreciated

                  Originally posted by dRaFtDoRk
                  You can't be a good corner if no one throws your way. Thats my way of seeing it.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The Great Jonathan Vilma View Post
                    Mr.Stiller could have taken my vote, but the Blindside name jumped out at me more. I see so many homer Steeler fans that they began to blend together....i felt like voting for a guy who is mostly alone in homer'ing for his team...
                    No need to make fun of me Vilma :(


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by The Great Jonathan Vilma View Post
                      Mr.Stiller could have taken my vote, but the Blindside name jumped out at me more. I see so many homer Steeler fans that they began to blend together....i felt like voting for a guy who is mostly alone in homer'ing for his team...
                      Ugh, BlindSite stealing the Stiller vote with votes he doesn't need.


                      The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

                      If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

                      <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
                      <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Dam8610 View Post
                        Ugh, BlindSite stealing the Stiller vote with votes he doesn't need.
                        Tactica's in this, so you can pretty much forget it. I'm actually surprised he's not in the lead, there's a major difference between an annoying homer and a stupid homer.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by 619 View Post
                          Tactica's in this, so you can pretty much forget it. I'm actually surprised he's not in the lead, there's a major difference between an annoying homer and a stupid homer.
                          Scotty being a strong combination of both.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by awfullyquiet View Post
                            bama got lucky. it's hard to vote for him when you have blindsite and tactia in your pool.
                            I'm disappointed in the number of votes I got :(.

                            Or should I be happy?

                            Haha, even a VT fan voted me.
                            Virginia Tech.
                            ACC Champions 2004, 2007, 2008, 2010

                            Next Up: 2012

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