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Ive never read Pynchon but I heard hes quite tedious to read. I know a friend of mine tried to read Gravity's Rainbow and found it almost intolerable. Of course, Im sure Ill get around to trying to read some of his stuff at some point or another, but I found that a little discouraging.
Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
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Originally posted by killxswitch
Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.
Still bogged down in Against the Day, about 2/3rds of the way through its overwhelming 1300 or so pgs..... arrrgghh.
I highly recommend Inherent Vice as a neo-noir/hippy detective novel, it's not just for Pynchon fans only. It's very similar to his late 60s Crying of Lot 49 with the same themes, paranoid conspiracies, secret scieties, rampant sex & drug use, etc. Good times
And of course, the density makes it go zooooogggg. Pretty much the story of Pynchon, like an action movie, miss a minute, and you can be lost for a long time. Probably on purpose too.
Only because 20C is bogged down with: Joyce, Faulkner, Hemmingway, Cather, Woolf, Pynchon, Garcia Marquez, McCarthy, Nabokov, Burroughs, Ellison, Kafka (technically? does Conrad's Lord Jim and Heart of Darkness count in 1900 count?), Dos Passos, Hesse and Borges...
Picking a top five out of them... that's painful to me.
I got this as part of an anniversary present from my girlfriend the other day. Seems to be my type of science fiction/fantasy book. I'll give it a read, even though I've been apathetic towards books like this lately.
DFW is about equal with Burroughs IMO, and would probably crack the top 25, once you add fitzgerald, steinbeck, williams, beckett, cheever, capote, mailer, o'conner, maugham, plath, rand, henry james, huxley, and updike.
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An exclusively American Top 5, here goes, with commentary:
5) Steinbeck -- Not just b/c I live in Northern Calif. where he's a god
4) Mailer -- Great iconic tough guy writer
3) Fitzgerald -- The Last Romantic, everyone should memorize the last sentence in Gatsby
2) Faulkner -- More refs. to th Bible & Shakespeare than anyone since TS Eliot
1) Hemingway -- B/C he started as a journalist, best concise prose ever.
Hon. Mentions to Capote, Burroughs, Ellison, Pynchon, Barth, McMurtry, Ellis, Hunter S. Thompson, Tom Wolfe, Vonnegut (used to be a tech writer), John Gardner, Elmore Leonard (used to be a tech writer), Walker Percy, Barry Hannah, a few more.....
Also, no way does Cormac McCarthy's body of work in the 20th century place him that high (I'm not sure he'd be on the list at all with All The Pretty Horses being his best work from that period).
All The Pretty Horses isn't his best work. That's Suttree, IMO, or Blood Meridian is probably the Quintessential McCarthy. But, All the Pretty Horses is my favorite. I think I mentioned that already.
I also forgot DeLillo too. Don't hate, it was cursorily made!
Vonnegut should be up there too. I'd probably have him leap Dos Passos. I was never entranced with Calvino (probably because I attempted to read the works in Italian instead of English and that didn't work out so well). I forgot Mann (eep). Dick belongs as a notable, but probably not in my top 25. Steinbeck... I can probably say it's just me, as it is with Hemingway as well. That I just do not value him as much as his place. Fitzgerald on the other hand, I'm severely limited in knowledge other than some short stories I read a few years ago which gave me a wonderful view on who he is. I cannot give either their proper dues, unfortunately.
It's really hard to place authors who have one Seminal work, and several other lessor pieces.
Like Ellison who pretty much had ONLY Invisible Man to his name, placing importance on depth of work sucks, or how much stock do you place in just novels? It's rough. You don't like it, come up with one yourself PMD.
I'm not asking where he'd rank them, I'm asking how he could justify not having them in his top 15 (a even not having Dick, Calvino, and Mann in his top 25).
Edit: easy, because i think all these people (with the exception of dos passos being replaced for vonnegut) are better than the aformentioned. I have a hard time replacing one of those... Maybe GGMarquez with DeLillo... But even then, I don't feel it.