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  • Originally posted by awfullyquiet View Post
    Pynchon is so Legit.

    Top 5 20th Century Authors?

    I'd venture to put him in there.
    Ive never read Pynchon but I heard hes quite tedious to read. I know a friend of mine tried to read Gravity's Rainbow and found it almost intolerable. Of course, Im sure Ill get around to trying to read some of his stuff at some point or another, but I found that a little discouraging.
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    The APS is strong in this one.
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    Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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    • Originally posted by awfullyquiet View Post
      Pynchon is so Legit.

      Top 5 20th Century Authors?

      I'd venture to put him in there.
      Really going out on a limb there... not.

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      • I'm reading Dean Koontz' novel Cold Fire right now, and it's really hard to put down. It's an engaging read that seems to get better and better.
        "If you have one finger pointing at somebody, you have three pointing towards yourself."
        ~Nigerian Proverb

        Da riddum is too much for you.
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        • Originally posted by LizardState View Post
          Still bogged down in Against the Day, about 2/3rds of the way through its overwhelming 1300 or so pgs..... arrrgghh.

          I highly recommend Inherent Vice as a neo-noir/hippy detective novel, it's not just for Pynchon fans only. It's very similar to his late 60s Crying of Lot 49 with the same themes, paranoid conspiracies, secret scieties, rampant sex & drug use, etc. Good times
          And of course, the density makes it go zooooogggg. Pretty much the story of Pynchon, like an action movie, miss a minute, and you can be lost for a long time. Probably on purpose too.

          Originally posted by Snorlax1 View Post
          Really going out on a limb there... not.
          Really. It's difficult.

          Only because 20C is bogged down with: Joyce, Faulkner, Hemmingway, Cather, Woolf, Pynchon, Garcia Marquez, McCarthy, Nabokov, Burroughs, Ellison, Kafka (technically? does Conrad's Lord Jim and Heart of Darkness count in 1900 count?), Dos Passos, Hesse and Borges...

          Picking a top five out of them... that's painful to me.

          1) Joyce
          2) Conrad
          3) Faulkner
          4) Woolf
          5) Pynchon
          6) McCarthy
          7) Nabokov
          8) Kafka
          9) Borges
          10) Cather
          11) Hemmingway
          12) Hesse
          13) GGMarquez
          14) Ellison
          15) Dos Passos

          ****. that's rough.
          Last edited by awfullyquiet; 10-07-2009, 03:36 PM.
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          • You forgot DFW jerk.

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            • I got this as part of an anniversary present from my girlfriend the other day. Seems to be my type of science fiction/fantasy book. I'll give it a read, even though I've been apathetic towards books like this lately.

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              • Originally posted by Snorlax1 View Post
                You forgot DFW jerk.
                DFW is about equal with Burroughs IMO, and would probably crack the top 25, once you add fitzgerald, steinbeck, williams, beckett, cheever, capote, mailer, o'conner, maugham, plath, rand, henry james, huxley, and updike.
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                • Top 5 American 20th C. writers of fiction

                  An exclusively American Top 5, here goes, with commentary:

                  5) Steinbeck -- Not just b/c I live in Northern Calif. where he's a god
                  4) Mailer -- Great iconic tough guy writer
                  3) Fitzgerald -- The Last Romantic, everyone should memorize the last sentence in Gatsby
                  2) Faulkner -- More refs. to th Bible & Shakespeare than anyone since TS Eliot
                  1) Hemingway -- B/C he started as a journalist, best concise prose ever.

                  Hon. Mentions to Capote, Burroughs, Ellison, Pynchon, Barth, McMurtry, Ellis, Hunter S. Thompson, Tom Wolfe, Vonnegut (used to be a tech writer), John Gardner, Elmore Leonard (used to be a tech writer), Walker Percy, Barry Hannah, a few more.....

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                  • Mailer is so underrepresented by people in my generation. It's sad.
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                    • Originally posted by awfullyquiet View Post
                      Picking a top five out of them... that's painful to me.

                      1) Joyce
                      2) Conrad
                      3) Faulkner
                      4) Wolff
                      5) Pynchon
                      6) McCarthy
                      7) Nabokov
                      8) Kafka
                      9) Borges
                      10) Cather
                      11) Hemmingway
                      12) Hesse
                      13) GGMarquez
                      14) Ellison
                      15) Dos Passos

                      ****. that's rough.
                      Erm, Vonnegut? Dick? Steinbeck? Mailer? Beckett? Calvino? Mann?

                      Also, no way does Cormac McCarthy's body of work in the 20th century place him that high (I'm not sure he'd be on the list at all with All The Pretty Horses being his best work from that period).

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                      • Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck View Post
                        Erm, Vonnegut? Dick? Steinbeck? Mailer? Beckett? Calvino? Mann?

                        Also, no way does Cormac McCarthy's body of work in the 20th century place him that high (I'm not sure he'd be on the list at all with All The Pretty Horses being his best work from that period).
                        This question was answered 2 posts after the original post in which AQ clearly stated most of them would make up the top25.

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                        • Originally posted by Snorlax1 View Post
                          This question was answered 2 posts after the original post in which AQ clearly stated most of them would make up the top25.
                          I'm not asking where he'd rank them, I'm asking how he could justify not having them in his top 15 (a even not having Dick, Calvino, and Mann in his top 25).

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                          • Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck View Post
                            Erm, Vonnegut? Dick? Steinbeck? Mailer? Beckett? Calvino? Mann?

                            Also, no way does Cormac McCarthy's body of work in the 20th century place him that high (I'm not sure he'd be on the list at all with All The Pretty Horses being his best work from that period).
                            All The Pretty Horses isn't his best work. That's Suttree, IMO, or Blood Meridian is probably the Quintessential McCarthy. But, All the Pretty Horses is my favorite. I think I mentioned that already.

                            I also forgot DeLillo too. Don't hate, it was cursorily made!

                            Vonnegut should be up there too. I'd probably have him leap Dos Passos. I was never entranced with Calvino (probably because I attempted to read the works in Italian instead of English and that didn't work out so well). I forgot Mann (eep). Dick belongs as a notable, but probably not in my top 25. Steinbeck... I can probably say it's just me, as it is with Hemingway as well. That I just do not value him as much as his place. Fitzgerald on the other hand, I'm severely limited in knowledge other than some short stories I read a few years ago which gave me a wonderful view on who he is. I cannot give either their proper dues, unfortunately.

                            It's really hard to place authors who have one Seminal work, and several other lessor pieces.

                            Like Ellison who pretty much had ONLY Invisible Man to his name, placing importance on depth of work sucks, or how much stock do you place in just novels? It's rough. You don't like it, come up with one yourself PMD.

                            Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck View Post
                            I'm not asking where he'd rank them, I'm asking how he could justify not having them in his top 15 (a even not having Dick, Calvino, and Mann in his top 25).
                            Edit: easy, because i think all these people (with the exception of dos passos being replaced for vonnegut) are better than the aformentioned. I have a hard time replacing one of those... Maybe GGMarquez with DeLillo... But even then, I don't feel it.

                            1) Joyce
                            2) Conrad
                            3) Faulkner
                            4) Woolf
                            5) Pynchon
                            6) McCarthy
                            7) Nabokov
                            8) Kafka
                            9) Borges
                            10) Cather
                            11) Hemmingway
                            12) Hesse
                            13) DeLillo
                            14) Ellison
                            15) Vonnegut

                            And i'd also like to reiterate

                            Originally posted by awfullyquiet View Post
                            Really. It's difficult.
                            Last edited by awfullyquiet; 10-07-2009, 03:36 PM.
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                            • Roald Dahl needs some love in here!!! :D

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                              • I was just surprised by some of the choices and more surprised by some of the omissions. I didn't mean to knock your literary tastes.

                                A cursory top 10 for the 20th century would look something like this...

                                1. Jorge Luis Borges
                                2. James Joyce
                                3. Franz Kafka
                                4. Andre Breton
                                5. Thomas Pynchon
                                6. Italo Calvino
                                7. John Steinbeck
                                8. Thomas Mann
                                9. Kurt Vonnegut
                                10a. Samuel Beckett
                                10b. F. Scott Fitzgerald

                                But then again, I like surrealist writers.
                                Last edited by Paranoidmoonduck; 10-07-2009, 03:08 PM.

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