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  • My MLB Salary Cap Presentation

    I didn't know where else to put this so...I am doing a presentation and I'm on the side that's saying the MLB shouldn't adopt a salary cap. Here are some of my points:

    Winning:
    -Winning Percentage of the top 8 teams and the bottom 8 teams are a lot closer
    than those of football and basketball.
    -MLB has had only one repeat World Series champion since 2001. Last year the
    Tampa Bay Rays made it to the World Series with the 2nd to lowest payroll in the
    league. The year before Colorado made it to the World Series with the 6th
    lowest payroll in the league. The year before that in 2006, Detroit made it
    with the 16th lowest payroll. In 2003, the Florida Marlins won the World Series
    with the 6th lowest payroll. Since 1985 only six teams have won the World
    Series with the highest player payroll in the game. Outside of the Yankees, no
    team in baseball has won more than two World Series since 1975.
    -Since 1999, the New York Yankees have had the highest payroll in baseball.
    Since they won the World Series in 2000, the Yankees have increased their
    payroll from 90 million to 200 million. Until this past year, the Yankees had
    been to the World Series once since 2000 and lost in the World Series. The
    Yankees organization tried buying championships but not until they hired a new
    manager did they win a championship.

    Money:
    -Fans in the US are drawn to the large-market teams like the Yankees, Red Sox
    and Dodgers and a lot of money comes from those teams like supply-side
    economics.
    -When any of these teams come to a smaller city, games get sold out.
    -The majority of MLB merchandise sales come from the Yankees and Red Sox alone.
    -Since the majority of fans are fans of large market teams, if the MLB puts on a
    salary cap, the majority of the fans will be unhappy because it will be harder
    for their team to consistently win.
    -Almost all sports fans either love or hate the Yankees or Red Sox. It’s great
    for media like TV and Radio because a lot of people like to watch them play,
    especially if they’re playing each other. All in all, it’s good for baseball
    because people are watching. The only time I get to see my favorite team play
    is if they’re playing the Yankees, Red Sox or the local team.
    -Having these popular teams gives baseball an identity. Baseball has caught on
    all around the world. Basketball and football don’t have those “teams” that
    grab people’s attention.
    -With a salary cap you would be taking away from the players. Baseball is a
    business. They are in a league but the league is run by the players where they
    command huge contracts and the owners are greedy for talent so they pay them.
    -What would happen to all these players’ contracts with their teams?
    -Sports teams do the best with a good fan base and keen owners. It doesn’t
    matter if there's a cap or not i.e. Indianapolis Colts and the New England
    Patriots.

    My professor allows us to send in our points and he'll give us a rough idea of what kind of questions he'll ask after our presentation:

    Salary caps are thought to help small market teams. Even though NYY has only won the WS
    a couple times over the past decade, that is two more than almost every other team. Most
    small market teams never make the playoffs let alone win the WS.

    Small market teams may do better when teams like NYY visit their ballpark, but otherwise
    they are not doing well. Most MLB teams show a loss each year. Fan base is dwindling in
    many small markets and MLB is having difficulty attracting and keeping fans against the
    background of NBA and NFL success. (NBA goes into June; NFL starts up in September,
    leaving only a couple months when MLB has a monopoly on time.) So, many feel that MLB
    needs to explore salary caps, and expanded playoffs, to attract fans. This, along with shorter
    games and a shortened season, would help.


    I was wondering if you guys could help out and tell me if I'm missing anything or if something I wrote should be excluded from my argument. Also, what are some responses to what he said? And I also have to write a paper on this topic too.
    Last edited by kalbears13; 12-01-2009, 09:51 PM.

  • #2
    Screw that. Teams can't keep their players because the ******* Yankees taket them all. I say salary cap that **** and see if the Yankees can produce some good guys instead of stealing everyones elses players. I hate the Yankees
    Originally posted by SunTzu_22
    Just let it go RWO.
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    John Wall
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    • #3
      Salary Caps kill creativity.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES View Post
        Screw that. Teams can't keep their players because the ******* Yankees taket them all. I say salary cap that **** and see if the Yankees can produce some good guys instead of stealing everyones elses players. I hate the Yankees
        And watch small market teams fold because they don't get any luxury tax money anymore. And you think the Yankees will agree to any form of revenue sharing if they can't spend money the way they want to?

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        • #5
          I agree that salary caps are a good idea but my opponent got the pro side so I got stuck with the con side so I have to deal with it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Damix View Post
            And watch small market teams fold because they don't get any luxury tax money anymore. And you think the Yankees will agree to any form of revenue sharing if they can't spend money the way they want to?
            Luxury taxes go to the "Industry growth fund" not to the small market teams.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kalbears13 View Post
              Luxury taxes go to the "Industry growth fund" not to the small market teams.

              Ah excuse me for confusing this with the central fund. Point stands, Marlins and Pirates got paid over 80 mil last year. Teams that have good owners will consistently win.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Damix View Post

                Ah excuse me for confusing this with the central fund. Point stands, Marlins and Pirates got paid over 80 mil last year. Teams that have good owners will consistently win.
                I would have no problem with small teams having to support themselves. The salary cap would create more competition leading to higher ticket sales for teams because they would be less likely to stay at the bottom for so long. Also, I am not sure contraction would be such a bad thing.

                Thanks to BoneKrusher Credit and Rep to him for the sig.

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                • #9
                  as a twins fan, give me a salary cap. please.

                  Bonekrusher.

                  Originally posted by JordanTaber
                  Football...it's rocket surgery now, folks.

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                  • #10
                    The biggest problem in baseball is that there are too many small market teams who consistently lose money and put all the revenue sharing money into their pockets just so they can break even. There isn't a team in baseball that can't afford an $80 million payroll. The issue is, a ton of these owners aren't willing to lose some money now to win and make money later.

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                    • #11
                      But with the salary cap I can predict 6 out of the 8 teams that will make the playoffs EVERY year...where's the excitement in that?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tampa 2 4 life View Post
                        Salary Caps kill creativity.
                        Really? I would suggest that salary caps spawn creativity...jmo
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                        Crazyass sig by BoneKrusher

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES View Post
                          Screw that. Teams can't keep their players because the ******* Yankees taket them all. I say salary cap that **** and see if the Yankees can produce some good guys instead of stealing everyones elses players. I hate the Yankees
                          You make it sound like the Yanks are doing something wrong, against the rules. You only want a salary cap because your team is cheap, and you want every team to be cheap.

                          The owners of just about any sports franchise are typically rich beyond any of our own wildest dreams.....the money is there if they choose to spend it, most of them just don't. As long as the team is profitable, and most are, a good 90% of owners seem content to sit on their ass and rake in the money, while reinvesting very little of it.

                          I'm not sure what they based this statistic on, but going to school in Western PA, most of my friends are fans of the various Pittsburgh sports teams and I've heard from a good number of them that, despite not having a winning record in something like 2 decades, the Pirates are the 6th most profitable American sports franchise. I'd imagine that is scaled in some way, like percentage of the team worth or something, but I find it an interesting statistic nonetheless.

                          It's really a shame too.....in the NFL, having a salary cap also means having a salary floor. In my humble opinion, the MLB doesn't need a salary cap, they need the salary floor. Force each team to spend so much and everything would get a LOT more competitive I feel.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by P-L View Post
                            The biggest problem in baseball is that there are too many small market teams who consistently lose money and put all the revenue sharing money into their pockets just so they can break even. There isn't a team in baseball that can't afford an $80 million payroll. The issue is, a ton of these owners aren't willing to lose some money now to win and make money later.
                            I co-sign to this statement. The Yanks are a well oiled and well funded machine. They are the most well known brand in baseball and possibly professional sports, play in the biggest market, draw the biggest crowds and charge outrageous prices for their tickets. Yet they will always be over the tax, wind up giving small market teams with owners that have no intention of putting a competitive team on the field (exhibit A: Jeffrey Loria) and the wheels will keep turning. For better or worse, baseball works best without a salary cap, setting goliath's in the league that are big draws and provide intriguing stories when they fall. Sadly when they do fall, baseball in general suffers (quick, off the top of your head and home fans don't say anything, can you recall a memorable moment from the 2006 World Series)?


                            Originally posted by bearsfan_51
                            Show me your Wang, if you will.

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                            • #15
                              In case you were wondering I got a 91/100 on the presentation and I got an A in the class. It probably helped my professor was a Yankee fan. Thanks for the help everyone.

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