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  • Bernie Kosar quetion......

    Look at his career. Im a Browns fan, but most Browns fans think he is great. Tell me if his numbers explain how he was anything but average.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/KosaBe00.htm

    First off, he only played 3 complete seasons in his career. 2nd when he was a Brown, they were good because of a very solid run game, not a passing game. Vinny Testaverd's career is much better. The Browns were at there peak in 1985, when we had 2 1,000 yard rushers (Bernies rookie year, and didnt have a huge impact).

    Is he great? Or are Browns fans bias?

  • #2
    who cares?

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    • #3
      Kosar=HOF IMO

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Acreboy View Post
        Kosar=HOF IMO
        In what aspect? What did he do in his career to merit that? It obviously isnt his stats, he never won a championship, never did anything. Just a fan favorite.

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        • #5
          He was just a very underrated player.

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          • #6
            Joe, are you by chance the poster previously known as cleveland31?

            Just curious.

            DChess resizing inc.

            Reality is relative.

            We don't give a DAMN for the whole state of Michigan

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            • #7
              Did I ever say he was great? No, at no point in our argument did I ever say he was great. Jesus Tapdancing Christ you are a jackass.

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              • #8
                No he wasnt great. Theres a lot of guys who get more credit then there stats show.


                W/e though. People like to overrate the past and underrate the present.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bigrick0016 View Post
                  Did I ever say he was great? No, at no point in our argument did I ever say he was great. Jesus Tapdancing Christ you are a jackass.

                  Don't you hate when people make new topics to settle arguments but completely skew the words? It happened a while ago with a Bears fan saying Favre will have a worse year next year than Grossman, and some Packer fan started a poll saying "Who would you rather have for next year?" Which is a completely different question. I feel for you.


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                  do i tell you when to flip the burger?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CutlerChris View Post
                    Don't you hate when people make new topics to settle arguments but completely skew the words? It happened a while ago with a Bears fan saying Favre will have a worse year next year than Grossman, and some Packer fan started a poll saying "Who would you rather have for next year?" Which is a completely different question. I feel for you.
                    I was under the impresion was about how Belichek was a poor coach in Cleveland (he was, he didn't realize he needed an O-Coordinator in Cleveland) as well as him being a pompous, cocksucking, piece of ****. An example I used was Belichek releasing Kosar in the middle of the 1993 season. He did this when not only were we 5-3 and in first place, the heir to Kosar, Testaverde was hurt. Nobody said Kosar was great, he wasn't, but he was good (career 81 rating). This was not what made him our favorite Cleveland Brown, it was his demeanor, his community work, his love for Cleveland. He even wanted to play for us so bad (he's from Ohio) he passed on the regular draft and entered the SupplementaL Draft instead. We then traded up to get the first pick in the Supplemental to get him (That rule has been changed). Tat's not something we forget easily, we have a chip on our shoulder so when someone loves us we don't forget.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GiantRutgersFan View Post
                      No he wasnt great. Theres a lot of guys who get more credit then there stats show.


                      W/e though. People like to overrate the past and underrate the present.
                      It's the other way around.

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                      • #12
                        I have his rookie card....

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                        • #13
                          "Did I ever say he was great? No, at no point in our argument did I ever say he was great. Jesus Tapdancing Christ you are a jackass."


                          you need banned, you cant even control yourself on a message board. Maybe counciling?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JoeMontainya View Post
                            "Did I ever say he was great? No, at no point in our argument did I ever say he was great. Jesus Tapdancing Christ you are a jackass."


                            you need banned, you cant even control yourself on a message board. Maybe counciling?
                            yo, why are you so sissy all the sudden, dont get all emotional, if you had your period then dont post how your feeling are hurt and how some dude says your a jackass, who cares, honestly, he thinks your a jackass, and he's right, cuz right now you look like one.


                            somewhat like a little schoolboy B-Itch
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                            • #15
                              He was great, if everyone went by stats Art Monk would be a 2nd ballot (maybe 1st) HOF

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