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  • #16
    Originally posted by draftguru151
    Didn't we just have this thread?

    And danman, Haslem consistently makes mid range jumpers from the wing and is a very consistent rebounder. I would rather see him shoot than Walker.

    And Brodeur, the only time Wade forces shots is when his team needs it. He always looks to pass throughout the game and that is mainly why he dominates in the 4th like he does. He doesn't pass as much in the 4th, but the rest of the game he does. He is constantly getting assists.
    i would too, but that does not mean i want him shooting it in the first place.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Brodeur
      Originally posted by draftguru151
      And Brodeur, the only time Wade forces shots is when his team needs it. He always looks to pass throughout the game and that is mainly why he dominates in the 4th like he does. He doesn't pass as much in the 4th, but the rest of the game he does. He is constantly getting assists.
      I'm aware he only forces shots in the 4th quarter, but it's not always necessarily doing it for the good of the team.
      Then what is it for?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Brodeur
        Originally posted by draftguru151
        And Brodeur, the only time Wade forces shots is when his team needs it. He always looks to pass throughout the game and that is mainly why he dominates in the 4th like he does. He doesn't pass as much in the 4th, but the rest of the game he does. He is constantly getting assists.
        I'm aware he only forces shots in the 4th quarter, but it's not always necessarily doing it for the good of the team.
        He pretty much single-handidly won the finals for the heat with his 4th quarter shots.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by cunningham06
          Originally posted by danman253
          Originally posted by cunningham06
          Originally posted by danman253
          LeBron is the superior player IMO, but as far as a team leader and perrforming in the clutch its wade. LeBron is a superior athlete and is clutch a can take over games, but wade plays suchh good team basketball, and at the same time can dominate.
          Performing in the clutch? Have you watched Lebron play? He has won countless games with buzzer beaters, and when the Cavs played the Heat during the regular season it was pretty much a showdown of Lebron and Dwayne, and guess who won it? Lebron did, the Cavs won. Dwayne looks so good because he is on a very good team, I'm not taking anything away from him he is the best player on his team, but he's just not as good as Lebron. He isn't the rebounder that Lebron is, and he doesn't throw down as many points consistently as Lebron does. Lebron needs some offensive firepower to help him out, Larry Hughes needs to stay healthy and have a good season. Lebron carries his team on his shoulders while the heat are "15 strong."
          Don't get me wrong, LeBron is extremely clutch. But after the way Wade played in the finals, Wade is more clutch. And thats why i said lebron is a better player, because he can rebound, score from the outside, do some things wade can't. Wade has the ability to take the game over, now so does Lebron, but Wade IMO is more clutch
          As of right now Wade is proven as the most clutch in the NBA, we will truly see who is more clutch though if Lebron and the Cavs ever make it to the finals, unlikely but possible. Although it would be hard to improve on what Dwayne did.

          Everyone who says Kobe is better than both of them has no idea what they are talking about. Playoffs Lakers got eliminated quickly because Kobe isn't a team player, and then suddenly tried to be. Kobe never passes the ball, which is why he gets so many points. He doesn't rebound as well as Lebron either. The Lakers supporting cast is probably better than Clevelands at least they can play some decent defense and are big.

          Unlikely? They're mostly young, have soon to be the best player in the NBA(arguably already the best) and they aren't screwed in the draft or cap wise for years in the future. They'll MOST likely get there eventually. And for the question, let's break it down.

          Scoring-LeBron
          Rebounding-LeBron
          Passing-LeBron
          Court Vision-LeBron
          Outside shot-LeBron, until Wade can prove he can hit it consistently
          Midrange-Wade
          Post gme-LeBron
          Man to man defense-Wade, but LeBron has the potential to be better (he's bigger)
          Playing the passing lanes/team defense-LeBron
          Clutch-Push

          So yeah, Wade is sooooo much better :roll:


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          • #20
            Originally posted by draftguru151
            Originally posted by Brodeur
            Originally posted by draftguru151
            And Brodeur, the only time Wade forces shots is when his team needs it. He always looks to pass throughout the game and that is mainly why he dominates in the 4th like he does. He doesn't pass as much in the 4th, but the rest of the game he does. He is constantly getting assists.
            I'm aware he only forces shots in the 4th quarter, but it's not always necessarily doing it for the good of the team.
            Then what is it for?
            That came out really wrong. I meant to say that when he forces shots in the 4th quarter, it frequently hurts them more then it helps them.


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            • #21
              Originally posted by cunningham06
              Originally posted by danman253
              LeBron is the superior player IMO, but as far as a team leader and perrforming in the clutch its wade. LeBron is a superior athlete and is clutch a can take over games, but wade plays suchh good team basketball, and at the same time can dominate.
              Performing in the clutch? Have you watched Lebron play? He has won countless games with buzzer beaters, and when the Cavs played the Heat during the regular season it was pretty much a showdown of Lebron and Dwayne, and guess who won it? Lebron did, the Cavs won. Dwayne looks so good because he is on a very good team, I'm not taking anything away from him he is the best player on his team, but he's just not as good as Lebron. He isn't the rebounder that Lebron is, and he doesn't throw down as many points consistently as Lebron does. Lebron needs some offensive firepower to help him out, Larry Hughes needs to stay healthy and have a good season. Lebron carries his team on his shoulders while the heat are "15 strong."
              by countless games do you mean like 2? IT took him sooo long to finally make a clutch shot. people compare LBJ to JOrdan it took jordan like 10 games to make a clutch buzzer beater while it took lebron some where around 100 games to make a signifigant one. lebron is not clutch except for in a few games fiannly this year where horrible D was played agianst him. And as for D wade being on a good team.. D wade pretty much won the championship by himself he tore it up.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by TitleTown088
                Originally posted by cunningham06
                Originally posted by danman253
                LeBron is the superior player IMO, but as far as a team leader and perrforming in the clutch its wade. LeBron is a superior athlete and is clutch a can take over games, but wade plays suchh good team basketball, and at the same time can dominate.
                Performing in the clutch? Have you watched Lebron play? He has won countless games with buzzer beaters, and when the Cavs played the Heat during the regular season it was pretty much a showdown of Lebron and Dwayne, and guess who won it? Lebron did, the Cavs won. Dwayne looks so good because he is on a very good team, I'm not taking anything away from him he is the best player on his team, but he's just not as good as Lebron. He isn't the rebounder that Lebron is, and he doesn't throw down as many points consistently as Lebron does. Lebron needs some offensive firepower to help him out, Larry Hughes needs to stay healthy and have a good season. Lebron carries his team on his shoulders while the heat are "15 strong."
                by countless games do you mean like 2? IT took him sooo long to finally make a clutch shot. people compare LBJ to JOrdan it took jordan like 10 games to make a clutch buzzer beater while it took lebron some where around 100 games to make a signifigant one. lebron is not clutch except for in a few games fiannly this year where horrible D was played agianst him. And as for D wade being on a good team.. D wade pretty much won the championship by himself he tore it up.
                That's the biggest load of crap ever, and you know it. Switch D-Wade and Lebron, and Lebron gets to win.

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                • #23
                  1. Kobe Bryant
                  2. Lebron James
                  3 Dwayne Wade


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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by frogstomp
                    Originally posted by TitleTown088
                    Originally posted by cunningham06
                    Originally posted by danman253
                    LeBron is the superior player IMO, but as far as a team leader and perrforming in the clutch its wade. LeBron is a superior athlete and is clutch a can take over games, but wade plays suchh good team basketball, and at the same time can dominate.
                    Performing in the clutch? Have you watched Lebron play? He has won countless games with buzzer beaters, and when the Cavs played the Heat during the regular season it was pretty much a showdown of Lebron and Dwayne, and guess who won it? Lebron did, the Cavs won. Dwayne looks so good because he is on a very good team, I'm not taking anything away from him he is the best player on his team, but he's just not as good as Lebron. He isn't the rebounder that Lebron is, and he doesn't throw down as many points consistently as Lebron does. Lebron needs some offensive firepower to help him out, Larry Hughes needs to stay healthy and have a good season. Lebron carries his team on his shoulders while the heat are "15 strong."
                    by countless games do you mean like 2? IT took him sooo long to finally make a clutch shot. people compare LBJ to JOrdan it took jordan like 10 games to make a clutch buzzer beater while it took lebron some where around 100 games to make a signifigant one. lebron is not clutch except for in a few games fiannly this year where horrible D was played agianst him. And as for D wade being on a good team.. D wade pretty much won the championship by himself he tore it up.
                    That's the biggest load of crap ever, and you know it. Switch D-Wade and Lebron, and Lebron gets to win.
                    How is it a load of crap? D wade was rediculous, Lebron is overrated Bolth Kobe and wade are better. Maybe they don't have as much talent or potental, but they still bolth perform better especially under pressure.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TitleTown088
                      Originally posted by frogstomp
                      Originally posted by TitleTown088
                      Originally posted by cunningham06
                      Originally posted by danman253
                      LeBron is the superior player IMO, but as far as a team leader and perrforming in the clutch its wade. LeBron is a superior athlete and is clutch a can take over games, but wade plays suchh good team basketball, and at the same time can dominate.
                      Performing in the clutch? Have you watched Lebron play? He has won countless games with buzzer beaters, and when the Cavs played the Heat during the regular season it was pretty much a showdown of Lebron and Dwayne, and guess who won it? Lebron did, the Cavs won. Dwayne looks so good because he is on a very good team, I'm not taking anything away from him he is the best player on his team, but he's just not as good as Lebron. He isn't the rebounder that Lebron is, and he doesn't throw down as many points consistently as Lebron does. Lebron needs some offensive firepower to help him out, Larry Hughes needs to stay healthy and have a good season. Lebron carries his team on his shoulders while the heat are "15 strong."
                      by countless games do you mean like 2? IT took him sooo long to finally make a clutch shot. people compare LBJ to JOrdan it took jordan like 10 games to make a clutch buzzer beater while it took lebron some where around 100 games to make a signifigant one. lebron is not clutch except for in a few games fiannly this year where horrible D was played agianst him. And as for D wade being on a good team.. D wade pretty much won the championship by himself he tore it up.
                      That's the biggest load of crap ever, and you know it. Switch D-Wade and Lebron, and Lebron gets to win.
                      How is it a load of crap? D wade was rediculous, Lebron is overrated Bolth Kobe and wade are better. Maybe they don't have as much talent or potental, but they still bolth perform better especially under pressure.

                      Are you joking? Clutch isn't all about buzzer beaters. Taking a FAR superior team to 7 games pretty much by yourself, that's clutch. Averaging 30/8/6 in your first playoff, clutch. Slmost making the third round despite having no other 12 ppg scorer in the playoffs? clutch. And 2 years ago, last game, if Cavs won and Nets lost, the Cavs were in the playoffs. Cavs won, LeBron had 35/14/14. Unfortunately the Nets won too, so they didn't make the playoffs. LeBron is just as clutch.


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                      • #26
                        LeBron takes more bad shots and doesn't use his talent as well as Wade. That's why I think Wade is a better winner right now.

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                        • #27
                          if anyone watched more cavs games than just the few on espn or tnt you know lebron is a freak of nature...how can you watch the playoffs and call him overrated. The pistons WHOLE TEAM was guarding him the entire series and he almost single handedly beat them. Can anyone truly believe that if Lebron was on the heat they would not have won the championship? Lebron is better no doubt. But Dwade is the second best player in the league no knock on him.


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Moses
                            LeBron takes more bad shots and doesn't use his talent as well as Wade. That's why I think Wade is a better winner right now.
                            First off the bad shots are warranted, but you can only pass to eric snow and watch him brick a 10 footer, or marshall jones or murray miss a wide open three before you just say alright **** it im gonna shoot. Id take lebron contested over half our guys doing the mikan drill anyday. As for not using his talent well, ur right he should get more than 31, 7, 6 and essentially take a one man team to a game 7 against detroit, at age 21 a :roll:


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by TitleTown088
                              How is it a load of crap? D wade was rediculous, Lebron is overrated Bolth Kobe and wade are better. Maybe they don't have as much talent or potental, but they still bolth perform better especially under pressure.
                              Wade played well, but he didn't win it by himself. Come on, if you don't think that the heat would be a better team if they had Lebron instead of D-Wade, and the Cavs would be a worse team if they had D-Wade instead of Lebron... you're plain crazy.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by frogstomp
                                Originally posted by TitleTown088
                                How is it a load of crap? D wade was rediculous, Lebron is overrated Bolth Kobe and wade are better. Maybe they don't have as much talent or potental, but they still bolth perform better especially under pressure.
                                Wade played well, but he didn't win it by himself. Come on, if you don't think that the heat would be a better team if they had Lebron instead of D-Wade, and the Cavs would be a worse team if they had D-Wade instead of Lebron... you're plain crazy.
                                The Heat would be a werse team with LeBron, but the Cavs may be werse team with Wade.

                                That is correct comahan
                                I ******* LOVE YOU DG
                                <3 dg

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