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  • #61
    Originally posted by Rob Schubert
    Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
    Originally posted by Nerv
    Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
    Originally posted by bigrick0016
    Pride is good. UFC is ok. However, I must say that I was a much bigger fan when UFC had like no rules or weight classes and it was banned in like 40 states.
    When eye gouges and groin kicks were legal :D
    Ill never forget the Gracie vs Kimo fight, where to keep Kimo in his guard on the ground Royce just gripped kimo's ponytail and never let go.
    Yeah the Gracies are notoriously dirty fighters.
    That wasnt really dirty, I think any fighter with long hair is asking for it to be pulled. Its like RB's with dreads, they are begging for it to get yanked.
    Hey i cant say I blame them. If I am not going to get disqualified for something than im going to do it.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
      Originally posted by Rob Schubert
      Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
      Originally posted by Nerv
      Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
      Originally posted by bigrick0016
      Pride is good. UFC is ok. However, I must say that I was a much bigger fan when UFC had like no rules or weight classes and it was banned in like 40 states.
      When eye gouges and groin kicks were legal :D
      Ill never forget the Gracie vs Kimo fight, where to keep Kimo in his guard on the ground Royce just gripped kimo's ponytail and never let go.
      Yeah the Gracies are notoriously dirty fighters.
      That wasnt really dirty, I think any fighter with long hair is asking for it to be pulled. Its like RB's with dreads, they are begging for it to get yanked.
      Hey i cant say I blame them. If I am not going to get disqualified for something than im going to do it.
      exactly
      When I eat, it is the food that is scared.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by bigrick0016
        Pride is good. UFC is ok. However, I must say that I was a much bigger fan when UFC had like no rules or weight classes and it was banned in like 40 states.
        I'd rather it be less brutal and get shown on TV, than extremely brutal and only shown on PPV.
        "Oh **** it's Kam, RUN!!!"

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        • #64
          Originally posted by XxXdragonXxX
          Originally posted by bigrick0016
          Pride is good. UFC is ok. However, I must say that I was a much bigger fan when UFC had like no rules or weight classes and it was banned in like 40 states.
          I'd rather it be less brutal and get shown on TV, than extremely brutal and only shown on PPV.
          agreed

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          • #65
            Originally posted by XxXdragonXxX
            Originally posted by bigrick0016
            Pride is good. UFC is ok. However, I must say that I was a much bigger fan when UFC had like no rules or weight classes and it was banned in like 40 states.
            I'd rather it be less brutal and get shown on TV, than extremely brutal and only shown on PPV.
            Yeah but they changed the rules way before it even made it to regular television.

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            • #66
              Well in 99 & 00 I believe it was, the government was actively attempting to shut the UFC down (headed a lot by Senator McCain who i actualyl like..) and there were a lot of court cases. UFC ref 'Big' John McCarthy said he was in more court rooms those 2 years than he was in his entire career as a SWAT team member. It was said to be 'to brutal & to violent'.

              That is when Dana White came in, to save the UFC and allow it to continue they had to put in specific rules & weight classes, the weight classes were big. Another big thing was the ability to stomp or attack the head of a downed oppenent, that was whiped out fast, same with cheaper fighting tactics like headbutts, eye gauges, groin shots, hair pulling etc and weight classes were introduced.

              And voila, you have todays UFC, though those old style vs style UFC no rounds, no time limit, no rules fights were nice 8)

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Nerv
                Well in 99 & 00 I believe it was, the government was actively attempting to shut the UFC down (headed a lot by Senator McCain who i actualyl like..) and there were a lot of court cases. UFC ref 'Big' John McCarthy said he was in more court rooms those 2 years than he was in his entire career as a SWAT team member. It was said to be 'to brutal & to violent'.

                That is when Dana White came in, to save the UFC and allow it to continue they had to put in specific rules & weight classes, the weight classes were big. Another big thing was the ability to stomp or attack the head of a downed oppenent, that was whiped out fast, same with cheaper fighting tactics like headbutts, eye gauges, groin shots, hair pulling etc and weight classes were introduced.

                And voila, you have todays UFC, though those old style vs style UFC no rounds, no time limit, no rules fights were nice 8)
                Nerv dropping some knowledge.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                  Originally posted by Nerv
                  Well in 99 & 00 I believe it was, the government was actively attempting to shut the UFC down (headed a lot by Senator McCain who i actualyl like..) and there were a lot of court cases. UFC ref 'Big' John McCarthy said he was in more court rooms those 2 years than he was in his entire career as a SWAT team member. It was said to be 'to brutal & to violent'.

                  That is when Dana White came in, to save the UFC and allow it to continue they had to put in specific rules & weight classes, the weight classes were big. Another big thing was the ability to stomp or attack the head of a downed oppenent, that was whiped out fast, same with cheaper fighting tactics like headbutts, eye gauges, groin shots, hair pulling etc and weight classes were introduced.

                  And voila, you have todays UFC, though those old style vs style UFC no rounds, no time limit, no rules fights were nice 8)
                  Nerv dropping some knowledge.
                  indeed
                  When I eat, it is the food that is scared.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                    before it even made it to regular television.
                    But do you think it would be on TV if the rules hadn't changed? They had to change the rules, then they had to get a TV deal.
                    "Oh **** it's Kam, RUN!!!"

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by XxXdragonXxX
                      Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                      before it even made it to regular television.
                      But do you think it would be on TV if the rules hadn't changed? They had to change the rules, then they had to get a TV deal.
                      of course not.
                      When I eat, it is the food that is scared.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by XxXdragonXxX
                        Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                        before it even made it to regular television.
                        But do you think it would be on TV if the rules hadn't changed? They had to change the rules, then they had to get a TV deal.
                        Actually I think with the state of television today it might have. PRIDE's rules are alot looser than UFC's and they are played on television.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                          Actually I think with the state of television today it might have. PRIDE's rules are alot looser than UFC's and they are played on television.
                          I'm no PRIDE expert, but werent' the old UFC rules much more brutal than even Pride? Isn't the only real difference between PRIDE rules and current UFC rules that PRIDE allows kicks to teh head to downed opponents?
                          "Oh **** it's Kam, RUN!!!"

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by XxXdragonXxX
                            Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                            Actually I think with the state of television today it might have. PRIDE's rules are alot looser than UFC's and they are played on television.
                            I'm no PRIDE expert, but werent' the old UFC rules much more brutal than even Pride? Isn't the only real difference between PRIDE rules and current UFC rules that PRIDE allows kicks to teh head to downed opponents?
                            Yeah you can stomp peoples head is basically the only other rule but from what nerv posted that was one of the main problems with the old ufc. I dont think hairpulling would be enough to take it off american television you see that atleast 10 times every episode of Jerry Springer.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                              Originally posted by XxXdragonXxX
                              Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                              Actually I think with the state of television today it might have. PRIDE's rules are alot looser than UFC's and they are played on television.
                              I'm no PRIDE expert, but werent' the old UFC rules much more brutal than even Pride? Isn't the only real difference between PRIDE rules and current UFC rules that PRIDE allows kicks to teh head to downed opponents?
                              Yeah you can stomp peoples head is basically the only other rule but from what nerv posted that was one of the main problems with the old ufc. I dont think hairpulling would be enough to take it off american television you see that atleast 10 times every episode of Jerry Springer.
                              i think weight classes were big as well charm. peoples safety would be severely at risk with no weight classes at all.
                              When I eat, it is the food that is scared.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Rob Schubert
                                Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                                Originally posted by XxXdragonXxX
                                Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
                                Actually I think with the state of television today it might have. PRIDE's rules are alot looser than UFC's and they are played on television.
                                I'm no PRIDE expert, but werent' the old UFC rules much more brutal than even Pride? Isn't the only real difference between PRIDE rules and current UFC rules that PRIDE allows kicks to teh head to downed opponents?
                                Yeah you can stomp peoples head is basically the only other rule but from what nerv posted that was one of the main problems with the old ufc. I dont think hairpulling would be enough to take it off american television you see that atleast 10 times every episode of Jerry Springer.
                                i think weight classes were big as well charm. peoples safety would be severely at risk with no weight classes at all.
                                Yeah I know that but what im saying is thats not enough to get it not shown on television. Pride has open weight tournaments and they play on tv. The whole thing was someone said the new rules are good because withoutt the rule changes it wouldnt be allowed to be shown on television but I think it would.

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