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  • Originally posted by Boston
    Originally posted by danman253
    Originally posted by GB12
    Originally posted by danman253
    Originally posted by sweetness34

    Ok then Illinois is a top 20 team. Here I'll name 20 teams that are better than Duke IMO.

    Wisky
    OSU
    Florida
    Kansas
    Alabama
    Marquette
    UNC
    Georgia Tech
    UCONN
    LSU
    Witchita State
    Arizona
    Maryland
    Memphis
    Texas A & M
    Pittsburgh
    UCLA
    Memphis
    Washington
    Illinois
    your reachin for the ones in bold, and u listed memphis twice.


    it must have been a long day
    Marquette :!: :?: :?: how's that reaching they BEAT Duke.

    The zags beat NC, but i'd take NC over them, heard of a an off-day?


    also North Dakota State? Yeah thats what i thought
    I love how you completely contradict yourself.

    There is a difference between losing to a ranked team and losing to a team that no one has heard of

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    • Originally posted by danman253
      Originally posted by GB12
      Originally posted by danman253
      Originally posted by sweetness34
      Originally posted by danman253
      Originally posted by sweetness34
      Originally posted by danman253
      Originally posted by sweetness34

      Ok then Illinois is a top 20 team. Here I'll name 20 teams that are better than Duke IMO.

      Wisky
      OSU
      Florida
      Kansas
      Alabama
      Marquette
      UNC
      Georgia Tech
      UCONN
      LSU
      Witchita State
      Arizona
      Maryland
      Memphis
      Texas A & M
      Pittsburgh
      UCLA
      Memphis
      Washington
      Illinois
      your reachin for the ones in bold, and u listed memphis twice.


      it must have been a long day
      How am I reaching on Illinois? How, seriously. We've lost 2 games due IMO to injuries and just bad luck. Duke has lost 1 game with a full squad.

      Paulus and McRoberts are waaaay to inconsistent for my liking. You can't count on either one to play well every game. Nelson has been their consistent player this season but other than that, I just don't see it. Scheyer is a freshman who won't be able to carry the load. And they don't have a lot of depth. The lack a real inside presence as well. The jury is still out on Josh.

      Illinois has battled injuries and bad luck all non-conference. Yet we've almost knocked off two ranked teams in Maryland and Arizona, two games that we should have won. We just beat a good Missouri team on Monday, and again our squad was not completely healthy. Warren Carter has played like an All-Big 10 player so far. Shaun Pruitt is slowly emerging as a low post threat. Chester Frazier has been very good, I thin he's top 10 in assists nationally. Jamar is a great offensive weapon off the bench. Brian Randle is an All-Big 10 caliber player when he's healthy, and he's shown signs of an outside shot already. Calvin Brock has been awesome so far, giving us a true 6th man off the bench. If Rich McBride can give us ANY production what so ever, we are going to be damn good. He's really struggled so far but I think he can put it together.

      Trent Meacham gives us a solid PG off the bench and Marcus Arnold gives us decent minutes at the forward postion. One of our better freshman Semrau is gone for the season with a viral infection, he'll be really missed.

      I will argue that Illinois is better team than Duke right here right now. We've IMO a tougher schedule so far this season and only have one more loss, not to mention the injuries. Maryland, Arizona, and Missouri against Marquette, Georgetown, and Gonazaga. I'd take the latter if I was making a schedule.

      Btw how am I reaching on Marquette, they beat Duke by what was it 13?
      Aight i watch every illinois game, and dude they are gonna be in trouble once they enter big ten play. They nearly gave away that Mizzouri game. I'd say OSU, Wisconsin, MSU, and MICHIGAN can beat you in the big ten.


      Also Marquette got lucky, they are not good at all.
      Dude the Missouri game is always close, it was even close 2 years ago when we went to the Final 4. Not sure what you're argument is there.

      Yoda, we have yet to field a full and healthy team, you cannot judge us based on our wins and losses right now. Randle, Smith, Carter, Pruitt, and Frazier are all banged up.

      Butler beat Gonzaga by more than you did and they're what 14th? And Zaga was playing better then.
      Dude i'm sayin that was some awfully poor management late, if you do that against OSU, Wisky, MSU, or Michigan State, you'll lose. Believe me i have seen Illinois play so i'm not blowin smoke
      What?
      Didn't see the MSU, I thought you were calling Michigan better.

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      • Originally posted by sweetness34
        Originally posted by danman253
        Originally posted by sweetness34
        Originally posted by danman253
        Originally posted by sweetness34
        Originally posted by danman253
        Originally posted by sweetness34

        Ok then Illinois is a top 20 team. Here I'll name 20 teams that are better than Duke IMO.

        Wisky
        OSU
        Florida
        Kansas
        Alabama
        Marquette
        UNC
        Georgia Tech
        UCONN
        LSU
        Witchita State
        Arizona
        Maryland
        Memphis
        Texas A & M
        Pittsburgh
        UCLA
        Memphis
        Washington
        Illinois
        your reachin for the ones in bold, and u listed memphis twice.


        it must have been a long day
        How am I reaching on Illinois? How, seriously. We've lost 2 games due IMO to injuries and just bad luck. Duke has lost 1 game with a full squad.

        Paulus and McRoberts are waaaay to inconsistent for my liking. You can't count on either one to play well every game. Nelson has been their consistent player this season but other than that, I just don't see it. Scheyer is a freshman who won't be able to carry the load. And they don't have a lot of depth. The lack a real inside presence as well. The jury is still out on Josh.

        Illinois has battled injuries and bad luck all non-conference. Yet we've almost knocked off two ranked teams in Maryland and Arizona, two games that we should have won. We just beat a good Missouri team on Monday, and again our squad was not completely healthy. Warren Carter has played like an All-Big 10 player so far. Shaun Pruitt is slowly emerging as a low post threat. Chester Frazier has been very good, I thin he's top 10 in assists nationally. Jamar is a great offensive weapon off the bench. Brian Randle is an All-Big 10 caliber player when he's healthy, and he's shown signs of an outside shot already. Calvin Brock has been awesome so far, giving us a true 6th man off the bench. If Rich McBride can give us ANY production what so ever, we are going to be damn good. He's really struggled so far but I think he can put it together.

        Trent Meacham gives us a solid PG off the bench and Marcus Arnold gives us decent minutes at the forward postion. One of our better freshman Semrau is gone for the season with a viral infection, he'll be really missed.

        I will argue that Illinois is better team than Duke right here right now. We've IMO a tougher schedule so far this season and only have one more loss, not to mention the injuries. Maryland, Arizona, and Missouri against Marquette, Georgetown, and Gonazaga. I'd take the latter if I was making a schedule.

        Btw how am I reaching on Marquette, they beat Duke by what was it 13?
        Aight i watch every illinois game, and dude they are gonna be in trouble once they enter big ten play. They nearly gave away that Mizzouri game. I'd say OSU, Wisconsin, MSU, and MICHIGAN can beat you in the big ten.


        Also Marquette got lucky, they are not good at all.
        Dude the Missouri game is always close, it was even close 2 years ago when we went to the Final 4. Not sure what you're argument is there.

        Yoda, we have yet to field a full and healthy team, you cannot judge us based on our wins and losses right now. Randle, Smith, Carter, Pruitt, and Frazier are all banged up.

        Butler beat Gonzaga by more than you did and they're what 14th? And Zaga was playing better then.
        Dude i'm sayin that was some awfully poor management late, if you do that against OSU, Wisky, MSU, or Michigan, you'll lose. Believe me i have seen Illinois play so i'm not blowin smoke
        Ugh, do you people not realize that we are not healthy yet? Seriously, it's like beating a dead horse here. For christs sake *********** a. Go and watch the first half of the Arizona game, that's how good we can be, and again without 2 of our best players. We hung in there with a top 10 team in Arizona for 40 minutes withotu Randle and Smith.

        Btw, and I'll say this again, THE 2004 TEAM BEAT MISSOURI BY SINGLE DIGITS AND WENT ON TO THE NATIONAL TITLE GAME. The game is always close. I'm going to use tt's argument, sure it was close, but we didn't lose. :roll:
        Sounds like some1 is contradicting himself.

        Sweetness=

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        • Sweetness, u know i like you, but dude this is painful to read. it doesn't matter once randle, smith, and carter get healthy. You are not that great of a team, i guarantee taht Illinois loses at least 8 conference games

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          • Originally posted by sweetness34
            Originally posted by danman253
            Originally posted by sweetness34
            It's not fudging Duke hating yoda, jesus. It's the friggin facts. The only reason they're in the top 10 is because they're Duke.

            You don't lose 2 All-ACC players to lottery picks, along with another good senior in Dockery and remain in the top 15 unless you've got the name. And that's what Duke has, is it's name. Put Illinois in the same situation, which they were this season and we'd be ranked 40th, which we were.

            There's no debate here.
            How about NC last year? Lose 3 lottery picks, get a 3 seed? Come on sweetness, you are reaching
            Huh? I'm not reaching here. I just gave you two examples. Illinois loses 2 very good players and fall to 40th. Duke loses 3 players and stays top 15. How the *********** is that reaching?

            IT DOES NOT HAPPEN UNLESS YOU'VE GOT THE NAME.
            Name comes with perennial success, which comes from perennially good amounts of talent and coaching, which might just play a part in how good people think a team is/will be

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            • Originally posted by SuperMcgee
              Originally posted by sweetness34
              Originally posted by danman253
              Originally posted by sweetness34
              It's not fudging Duke hating yoda, jesus. It's the friggin facts. The only reason they're in the top 10 is because they're Duke.

              You don't lose 2 All-ACC players to lottery picks, along with another good senior in Dockery and remain in the top 15 unless you've got the name. And that's what Duke has, is it's name. Put Illinois in the same situation, which they were this season and we'd be ranked 40th, which we were.

              There's no debate here.
              How about NC last year? Lose 3 lottery picks, get a 3 seed? Come on sweetness, you are reaching
              Huh? I'm not reaching here. I just gave you two examples. Illinois loses 2 very good players and fall to 40th. Duke loses 3 players and stays top 15. How the *********** is that reaching?

              IT DOES NOT HAPPEN UNLESS YOU'VE GOT THE NAME.
              Name comes with perennial success, which comes from perennially good amounts of talent and coaching, which might just play a part in how good people think a team is/will be
              Duke recruiting>Illinois recruiting.

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              • Originally posted by yodachu
                Originally posted by sweetness34
                Originally posted by danman253
                Originally posted by sweetness34
                It's not fudging Duke hating yoda, jesus. It's the friggin facts. The only reason they're in the top 10 is because they're Duke.

                You don't lose 2 All-ACC players to lottery picks, along with another good senior in Dockery and remain in the top 15 unless you've got the name. And that's what Duke has, is it's name. Put Illinois in the same situation, which they were this season and we'd be ranked 40th, which we were.

                There's no debate here.
                How about NC last year? Lose 3 lottery picks, get a 3 seed? Come on sweetness, you are reaching
                Huh? I'm not reaching here. I just gave you two examples. Illinois loses 2 very good players and fall to 40th. Duke loses 3 players and stays top 15. How the *********** is that reaching?

                IT DOES NOT HAPPEN UNLESS YOU'VE GOT THE NAME.
                It is called recruiting.....
                Explicitive removed.:D You guys did not get enough to replace those guys. Scheyer is a good player, as is Henderson but they do not replace Redick, Williams, and Dockery.

                Here you go...

                Frazier - Paulus: I'd take Frazier all day on this one. Greg is sooo overrated. Chet is our teams heartbeat and pretty much willed our guys to victory against Missouri.

                McBride - Nelson: Nelson all day, he's a good player and McBride is struggling.

                Randle - Scheyer: Randle all day, All-Big 10 Talent right now, and still isn't healthy. Scheyer will be darn good, but not right now.

                Carter - McRoberts: Right now, Carter is playing at an All-Big 10 level, and if you've watched us this season you'd realize that he's been our MVP. I'll take Carter.

                Pruitt - ????: Toss up. Pruitt's been a little inconsistent this season and I'll give the Dookies the benefit of the doubt here.

                Bench: Illinois > Duke

                Brock, Smith, Meacham, Carlwell, and Arnold (used to be Semrau as well) > Duke's Bench.


                Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

                Originally posted by JBCX
                Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.

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                • Originally posted by danman253
                  Sweetness, u know i like you, but dude this is painful to read. it doesn't matter once randle, smith, and carter get healthy. You are not that great of a team, i guarantee taht Illinois loses at least 8 conference games
                  I'd agree with that but they only have OSU and UW once each.

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                  • Originally posted by yodachu
                    Originally posted by SuperMcgee
                    Originally posted by sweetness34
                    Originally posted by danman253
                    Originally posted by sweetness34
                    It's not fudging Duke hating yoda, jesus. It's the friggin facts. The only reason they're in the top 10 is because they're Duke.

                    You don't lose 2 All-ACC players to lottery picks, along with another good senior in Dockery and remain in the top 15 unless you've got the name. And that's what Duke has, is it's name. Put Illinois in the same situation, which they were this season and we'd be ranked 40th, which we were.

                    There's no debate here.
                    How about NC last year? Lose 3 lottery picks, get a 3 seed? Come on sweetness, you are reaching
                    Huh? I'm not reaching here. I just gave you two examples. Illinois loses 2 very good players and fall to 40th. Duke loses 3 players and stays top 15. How the *********** is that reaching?

                    IT DOES NOT HAPPEN UNLESS YOU'VE GOT THE NAME.
                    Name comes with perennial success, which comes from perennially good amounts of talent and coaching, which might just play a part in how good people think a team is/will be
                    Duke recruiting>Illinois recruiting.
                    That it most definitely is

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                    • Originally posted by sweetness34
                      Originally posted by yodachu
                      Originally posted by sweetness34
                      Originally posted by danman253
                      Originally posted by sweetness34
                      It's not fudging Duke hating yoda, jesus. It's the friggin facts. The only reason they're in the top 10 is because they're Duke.

                      You don't lose 2 All-ACC players to lottery picks, along with another good senior in Dockery and remain in the top 15 unless you've got the name. And that's what Duke has, is it's name. Put Illinois in the same situation, which they were this season and we'd be ranked 40th, which we were.

                      There's no debate here.
                      How about NC last year? Lose 3 lottery picks, get a 3 seed? Come on sweetness, you are reaching
                      Huh? I'm not reaching here. I just gave you two examples. Illinois loses 2 very good players and fall to 40th. Duke loses 3 players and stays top 15. How the *********** is that reaching?

                      IT DOES NOT HAPPEN UNLESS YOU'VE GOT THE NAME.
                      It is called recruiting.....
                      *********** yoda, bull *********** ***********. You guys did not get enough to replace those guys. Scheyer is a good player, as is Henderson but they do not replace Redick, Williams, and Dockery.

                      Here you go...

                      Frazier - Paulus: I'd take Frazier all day on this one. Greg is sooo overrated. Chet is our teams heartbeat and pretty much willed our guys to victory against Missouri.

                      McBride - Nelson: Nelson all day, he's a good player and McBride is struggling.

                      Randle - Scheyer: Randle all day, All-Big 10 Talent right now, and still isn't healthy. Scheyer will be darn good, but not right now.

                      Carter - McRoberts: Right now, Carter is playing at an All-Big 10 level, and if you've watched us this season you'd realize that he's been our MVP. I'll take Carter.

                      Pruitt - ????: Toss up. Pruitt's been a little inconsistent this season and I'll give the Dookies the benefit of the doubt here.

                      Bench: Illinois > Duke

                      Brock, Smith, Meacham, Carlwell, and Arnold (used to be Semrau as well) > Duke's Bench.
                      **** Sweetness. Both of us will lose in the round of 32, if Illinois gets past round 1. And we didn't do a good job cuz we couldn't find a Williams and Reddick...... :roll:

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                      • Originally posted by yodachu
                        Originally posted by sweetness34
                        Originally posted by danman253
                        Originally posted by sweetness34
                        Originally posted by danman253
                        Originally posted by sweetness34
                        Originally posted by danman253
                        Originally posted by sweetness34

                        Ok then Illinois is a top 20 team. Here I'll name 20 teams that are better than Duke IMO.

                        Wisky
                        OSU
                        Florida
                        Kansas
                        Alabama
                        Marquette
                        UNC
                        Georgia Tech
                        UCONN
                        LSU
                        Witchita State
                        Arizona
                        Maryland
                        Memphis
                        Texas A & M
                        Pittsburgh
                        UCLA
                        Memphis
                        Washington
                        Illinois
                        your reachin for the ones in bold, and u listed memphis twice.


                        it must have been a long day
                        How am I reaching on Illinois? How, seriously. We've lost 2 games due IMO to injuries and just bad luck. Duke has lost 1 game with a full squad.

                        Paulus and McRoberts are waaaay to inconsistent for my liking. You can't count on either one to play well every game. Nelson has been their consistent player this season but other than that, I just don't see it. Scheyer is a freshman who won't be able to carry the load. And they don't have a lot of depth. The lack a real inside presence as well. The jury is still out on Josh.

                        Illinois has battled injuries and bad luck all non-conference. Yet we've almost knocked off two ranked teams in Maryland and Arizona, two games that we should have won. We just beat a good Missouri team on Monday, and again our squad was not completely healthy. Warren Carter has played like an All-Big 10 player so far. Shaun Pruitt is slowly emerging as a low post threat. Chester Frazier has been very good, I thin he's top 10 in assists nationally. Jamar is a great offensive weapon off the bench. Brian Randle is an All-Big 10 caliber player when he's healthy, and he's shown signs of an outside shot already. Calvin Brock has been awesome so far, giving us a true 6th man off the bench. If Rich McBride can give us ANY production what so ever, we are going to be damn good. He's really struggled so far but I think he can put it together.

                        Trent Meacham gives us a solid PG off the bench and Marcus Arnold gives us decent minutes at the forward postion. One of our better freshman Semrau is gone for the season with a viral infection, he'll be really missed.

                        I will argue that Illinois is better team than Duke right here right now. We've IMO a tougher schedule so far this season and only have one more loss, not to mention the injuries. Maryland, Arizona, and Missouri against Marquette, Georgetown, and Gonazaga. I'd take the latter if I was making a schedule.

                        Btw how am I reaching on Marquette, they beat Duke by what was it 13?
                        Aight i watch every illinois game, and dude they are gonna be in trouble once they enter big ten play. They nearly gave away that Mizzouri game. I'd say OSU, Wisconsin, MSU, and MICHIGAN can beat you in the big ten.


                        Also Marquette got lucky, they are not good at all.
                        Dude the Missouri game is always close, it was even close 2 years ago when we went to the Final 4. Not sure what you're argument is there.

                        Yoda, we have yet to field a full and healthy team, you cannot judge us based on our wins and losses right now. Randle, Smith, Carter, Pruitt, and Frazier are all banged up.

                        Butler beat Gonzaga by more than you did and they're what 14th? And Zaga was playing better then.
                        Dude i'm sayin that was some awfully poor management late, if you do that against OSU, Wisky, MSU, or Michigan, you'll lose. Believe me i have seen Illinois play so i'm not blowin smoke
                        Ugh, do you people not realize that we are not healthy yet? Seriously, it's like beating a dead horse here. For christs sake *********** a. Go and watch the first half of the Arizona game, that's how good we can be, and again without 2 of our best players. We hung in there with a top 10 team in Arizona for 40 minutes withotu Randle and Smith.

                        Btw, and I'll say this again, THE 2004 TEAM BEAT MISSOURI BY SINGLE DIGITS AND WENT ON TO THE NATIONAL TITLE GAME. The game is always close. I'm going to use tt's argument, sure it was close, but we didn't lose. :roll:
                        Sounds like some1 is contradicting himself.

                        Sweetness=
                        I was being a dick yoda on that last line, sorry for the lack of sarcasm.

                        Ok guys, let's settle this thread down a little bit.

                        My point is that....

                        A) Duke lost waaaay to much to be in the top 15 in preseason

                        B) They are no where near a top 10 team, hell no even top 15 in my book

                        C) I'll give you top 20, but that's for sympathy. :P

                        D) You should have dropped out of the top 20 when you lost to Marquette

                        E) You don't have enough bench

                        F) You don't have enough offense

                        G) You're way to inexperienced and inconsistent, especially your big guys

                        Those are enough reasons to why you are not a top 10 or a top 15 team in my book.


                        Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

                        Originally posted by JBCX
                        Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.

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                        • Originally posted by sweetness34
                          Originally posted by yodachu
                          Originally posted by sweetness34
                          Originally posted by danman253
                          Originally posted by sweetness34
                          Originally posted by danman253
                          Originally posted by sweetness34
                          Originally posted by danman253
                          Originally posted by sweetness34

                          Ok then Illinois is a top 20 team. Here I'll name 20 teams that are better than Duke IMO.

                          Wisky
                          OSU
                          Florida
                          Kansas
                          Alabama
                          Marquette
                          UNC
                          Georgia Tech
                          UCONN
                          LSU
                          Witchita State
                          Arizona
                          Maryland
                          Memphis
                          Texas A & M
                          Pittsburgh
                          UCLA
                          Memphis
                          Washington
                          Illinois
                          your reachin for the ones in bold, and u listed memphis twice.


                          it must have been a long day
                          How am I reaching on Illinois? How, seriously. We've lost 2 games due IMO to injuries and just bad luck. Duke has lost 1 game with a full squad.

                          Paulus and McRoberts are waaaay to inconsistent for my liking. You can't count on either one to play well every game. Nelson has been their consistent player this season but other than that, I just don't see it. Scheyer is a freshman who won't be able to carry the load. And they don't have a lot of depth. The lack a real inside presence as well. The jury is still out on Josh.

                          Illinois has battled injuries and bad luck all non-conference. Yet we've almost knocked off two ranked teams in Maryland and Arizona, two games that we should have won. We just beat a good Missouri team on Monday, and again our squad was not completely healthy. Warren Carter has played like an All-Big 10 player so far. Shaun Pruitt is slowly emerging as a low post threat. Chester Frazier has been very good, I thin he's top 10 in assists nationally. Jamar is a great offensive weapon off the bench. Brian Randle is an All-Big 10 caliber player when he's healthy, and he's shown signs of an outside shot already. Calvin Brock has been awesome so far, giving us a true 6th man off the bench. If Rich McBride can give us ANY production what so ever, we are going to be damn good. He's really struggled so far but I think he can put it together.

                          Trent Meacham gives us a solid PG off the bench and Marcus Arnold gives us decent minutes at the forward postion. One of our better freshman Semrau is gone for the season with a viral infection, he'll be really missed.

                          I will argue that Illinois is better team than Duke right here right now. We've IMO a tougher schedule so far this season and only have one more loss, not to mention the injuries. Maryland, Arizona, and Missouri against Marquette, Georgetown, and Gonazaga. I'd take the latter if I was making a schedule.

                          Btw how am I reaching on Marquette, they beat Duke by what was it 13?
                          Aight i watch every illinois game, and dude they are gonna be in trouble once they enter big ten play. They nearly gave away that Mizzouri game. I'd say OSU, Wisconsin, MSU, and MICHIGAN can beat you in the big ten.


                          Also Marquette got lucky, they are not good at all.
                          Dude the Missouri game is always close, it was even close 2 years ago when we went to the Final 4. Not sure what you're argument is there.

                          Yoda, we have yet to field a full and healthy team, you cannot judge us based on our wins and losses right now. Randle, Smith, Carter, Pruitt, and Frazier are all banged up.

                          Butler beat Gonzaga by more than you did and they're what 14th? And Zaga was playing better then.
                          Dude i'm sayin that was some awfully poor management late, if you do that against OSU, Wisky, MSU, or Michigan, you'll lose. Believe me i have seen Illinois play so i'm not blowin smoke
                          Ugh, do you people not realize that we are not healthy yet? Seriously, it's like beating a dead horse here. For christs sake *********** a. Go and watch the first half of the Arizona game, that's how good we can be, and again without 2 of our best players. We hung in there with a top 10 team in Arizona for 40 minutes withotu Randle and Smith.

                          Btw, and I'll say this again, THE 2004 TEAM BEAT MISSOURI BY SINGLE DIGITS AND WENT ON TO THE NATIONAL TITLE GAME. The game is always close. I'm going to use tt's argument, sure it was close, but we didn't lose. :roll:
                          Sounds like some1 is contradicting himself.

                          Sweetness=
                          I was being a dick yoda on that last line, sorry for the lack of sarcasm.

                          Ok guys, let's settle this thread down a little bit.

                          My point is that....

                          A) Duke lost waaaay to much to be in the top 15 in preseason

                          B) They are no where near a top 10 team, hell no even top 15 in my book

                          C) I'll give you top 20, but that's for sympathy. :P

                          D) You should have dropped out of the top 20 when you lost to Marquette

                          E) You don't have enough bench

                          F) You don't have enough offense

                          G) You're way to inexperienced and inconsistent, especially your big guys

                          Those are enough reasons to why you are not a top 10 or a top 15 team in my book.
                          Whatever :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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                          • Originally posted by GB12
                            Originally posted by danman253
                            Sweetness, u know i like you, but dude this is painful to read. it doesn't matter once randle, smith, and carter get healthy. You are not that great of a team, i guarantee taht Illinois loses at least 8 conference games
                            I'd agree with that but they only have OSU and UW once each.
                            No way in hell we lose 8 conference games. danman I just don't know what to say to you right now about that. We're the 3rd best team in this coference, period.


                            Another sig courtesy of BoneKrusher

                            Originally posted by JBCX
                            Despite looking better against an underachieving Eagles team, I still think the Bears are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I smell a blowout victory by the Lions this week and a division sweep.

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                            • Originally posted by GB12
                              Originally posted by danman253
                              Sweetness, u know i like you, but dude this is painful to read. it doesn't matter once randle, smith, and carter get healthy. You are not that great of a team, i guarantee taht Illinois loses at least 8 conference games
                              I'd agree with that but they only have OSU and UW once each.
                              Here I'll list them:

                              @Michigan
                              OSU
                              @MSU
                              @Minnesota
                              Wisconsin
                              MSU
                              Michigan
                              @Iowa

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                              • Originally posted by sweetness34
                                Originally posted by GB12
                                Originally posted by danman253
                                Sweetness, u know i like you, but dude this is painful to read. it doesn't matter once randle, smith, and carter get healthy. You are not that great of a team, i guarantee taht Illinois loses at least 8 conference games
                                I'd agree with that but they only have OSU and UW once each.
                                No way in hell we lose 8 conference games. danman I just don't know what to say to you right now about that. We're the 3rd best team in this coference, period.
                                3rd yeah, I could see 4-6 confernce games lost though. If you played them both twice it could be 8.

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