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bigbluedefense 12-11-2006 10:48 AM

Is Shawne Merriman Worthy of DPOY?
 
He leads the league in sacks and was suspended 4 games. Think about that. And he's a beast against the run, he forced 2 fumbles yesterday, he can do it all.

When he's on the field, he's easily been the most dynamic defender in the league this year.

But, does he deserve DPOY? He was afterall, suspended 4 games for substance abuse.

But if you look at his work, and not the off field problems, he's been the best defender in the league this year. Should he get it?

Shane P. Hallam 12-11-2006 10:49 AM

No, you get suspended, you don't win, plain and simple.

ShadowPanther 12-11-2006 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JBond93
No, you get suspended, you don't win, plain and simple.

I agree. It should go to him but he disqualified himself. He will win one of two more so don't worry.

CC.SD 12-11-2006 11:46 AM

Just keep in mind that if he doesn't get it, whoever does get it will essentially be a poser unless their name is Urlacher. No defensive player has been more dominant on the field than Shawne this year, and the numbers don't even tell the whole story. He's forced interceptions, ruined countless plays with his constant pressure, and to boot nobody runs on him.

That said, he won't get it. No dice. 4 game suspension.




Seriously watch this guy fly around it's insane. He had a flying leap from like twenty feet away to club somebody Igor had already mostly taken down.

bigbluedefense 12-11-2006 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChargerCohen
Just keep in mind that if he doesn't get it, whoever does get it will essentially be a poser unless their name is Urlacher. No defensive player has been more dominant on the field than Shawne this year, and the numbers don't even tell the whole story. He's forced interceptions, ruined countless plays with his constant pressure, and to boot nobody runs on him.

That said, he won't get it. No dice. 4 game suspension.




Seriously watch this guy fly around it's insane. He had a flying leap from like twenty feet away to club somebody Igor had already mostly taken down.

He's the most dynamic rushbacker Ive seen since Derrick Thomas. If he works on his pass coverage, he could be a mini Lawrence Taylor. He is that dominant. Only time will tell if he can maintain this type of play throughout his career, but right here right now I see some LT in him.

P-L 12-11-2006 11:50 AM

I think he should get it, but he won't.

tom 12-11-2006 12:01 PM

no way... He's not been good enough to over-come the substance abuse thing-a-ma-jig.

Had he been the clearcut best defensive player in the league, then I would have thought he deserved it, but with the way Urlacher, Bailey, and Taylor have been playing, I don't think he should get it

Vikings Fan 12-11-2006 12:05 PM

Jason Taylor will get it.

bigbluedefense 12-11-2006 12:11 PM

I don't think he should get it either because of the substance abuse. But had it not been for that, he'd easily be the front runner in my opinion.

Forget the stats, watch him play. He's a gamechanger. He makes special plays, and he's all over the place.

Still, I'll be curious to see how he performs next year.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan 12-11-2006 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikings Fan
Jason Taylor will get it.

QFT.

Shane P. Hallam 12-11-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChargerCohen
Just keep in mind that if he doesn't get it, whoever does get it will essentially be a poser unless their name is Urlacher. No defensive player has been more dominant on the field than Shawne this year, and the numbers don't even tell the whole story. He's forced interceptions, ruined countless plays with his constant pressure, and to boot nobody runs on him.

That said, he won't get it. No dice. 4 game suspension.




Seriously watch this guy fly around it's insane. He had a flying leap from like twenty feet away to club somebody Igor had already mostly taken down.

Wrong. Don't be a homer, Jason Taylor has been dominant this year too and he deserves it.

CC.SD 12-11-2006 12:34 PM

I just have a problem with giving it to a guy who didn't lead his team to the playoffs.

Shane P. Hallam 12-11-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChargerCohen
I just have a problem with giving it to a guy who didn't lead his team to the playoffs.

And Merriman was out for four games.

For DROY, the whole playoff thing doesn't quite work since it is more unit. Where as for OROY, a RB or QB can really do it themselves and put points on the board.

Windy 12-11-2006 01:07 PM

I personally dont like Jason Taylor but you cant look past his season this year. Even if he didnt lead his team to the playoffs at least he didnt cheat.

marks01234 12-11-2006 01:15 PM

Steriods or not, I still would give it to Jason Taylor.

1. Jason Taylor
2. Champ Bailey
3. Merriman

CC.SD 12-11-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JBond93
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChargerCohen
I just have a problem with giving it to a guy who didn't lead his team to the playoffs.

And Merriman was out for four games.

For DROY, the whole playoff thing doesn't quite work since it is more unit. Where as for OROY, a RB or QB can really do it themselves and put points on the board.

The difference is, I already said Merriman shouldn't get it, so I don't know why you'd mention him in reference to JT.

and it's D P O Y unless they are rookies.

Finsfan79 12-11-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChargerCohen
Quote:

Originally Posted by JBond93
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChargerCohen
I just have a problem with giving it to a guy who didn't lead his team to the playoffs.

And Merriman was out for four games.

For DROY, the whole playoff thing doesn't quite work since it is more unit. Where as for OROY, a RB or QB can really do it themselves and put points on the board.

The difference is, I already said Merriman shouldn't get it, so I don't know why you'd mention him in reference to JT.

and it's D P O Y unless they are rookies.

Player yes as in not Team so really going to the playoffs doesnt matter. Look at Ed Reed he won it and they didnt make the playoffs that year I believe.

Jason Taylor has been dominant this year and doesnt need to be a lying cheater to be good. Unlike Bonds, Big Mac and this merriman and castillo for SD. Perhaps they shared their roids?

MagnumGator 12-11-2006 01:45 PM

Does anyone want to make a definitive statement about the size of Merriman's arms now comapred to last year? I thought he looked smaller yesterday but maybe it's just me.

ShutDwn 12-11-2006 02:27 PM

No, he has been on roids this season, just because he was out four games doesn't mean his strength and speed from using them is gone.


Also, no, he can't do it all, he never drops back and isn't really good enough to even consider that. His skill pass rusher masks that because their is no point in dropping him back.

nobodyinparticular 12-11-2006 02:51 PM



No.

nobodyinparticular 12-11-2006 02:52 PM



No.

12-11-2006 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBond93
No, you get suspended, you don't win, plain and simple.


San Diego Chicken 12-11-2006 03:14 PM

Yes. Steroid rumors didn't keep Bonds from winning seven MVP's. It isn't a man of the year award. The question is, is he worthy of the DPOY award and the answer is plainly yes. That so many people voted no is just biased and stupid. Get over yourselves.

GSOT 12-11-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JBond93
No, you get suspended, you don't win, plain and simple.

Ditto....

bearsfan_51 12-11-2006 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by San Diego Chicken
Yes. Steroid rumors didn't keep Bonds from winning seven MVP's. It isn't a man of the year award. The question is, is he worthy of the DPOY award and the answer is plainly yes. That so many people voted no is just biased and stupid. Get over yourselves.

I say no (although I didn't vote) because I don't think he deserves it, it has nothing to do with steroids. If you miss 1/4th of the season, I don't care how well you play the other 12, you don't deserve it, I don't care if it's because you're on crack or your hurt your foot bowling.

Plus, he's not the leader of his team, and he's at least partially responsible for one the Chargers only two losses this year (trying to decapitate Todd Heap at the 2 yard line rather than simply tackling him).

Merriman is a tremendous player, and likely will win the award sometime in his career, but not this year.


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