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theskyandthejets 01-03-2007 12:44 AM

Upset in Sugar Bowl?
 
USC was less talented than Michigan, but outcoached them and won the Rose Bowl.
Boise State did the same to Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.
Notre Dame can continue the trend in the Sugar.

LSU has a lot more talent than Notre Dame, but ND has Charlie Weis.

The matchup between Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell (the first two QBs to be chosen in the 07 Draft?) should be a great one to watch too. Quinn is better, but he will be shut down by LSU's secondary and hit often by their pass rush. Russell should have a field day.

LSU 34, Notre Dame 14

NickBam 01-03-2007 12:47 AM

USC less talent then Michigan? Really? Both school had talent all over the place, USC's was just less experienced.

LSU 31
ND 21

elway777 01-03-2007 12:51 AM

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USC was less talented than Michigan.

Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

NickBam 01-03-2007 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by elway777
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USC was less talented than Michigan.

Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.

elway777 01-03-2007 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NickBam
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Originally Posted by elway777
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USC was less talented than Michigan.

Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.


Seriously!!!

How else do you explain the success this year having lost 2 heisman winners,lendale white,darnell bing,3 starting lineman,Frostee Rucker, and Lajaun Ramsey who are all playing in the NFL.

NickBam 01-03-2007 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by elway777
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Originally Posted by NickBam
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Originally Posted by elway777
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USC was less talented than Michigan.

Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.


Seriously!!!

How else do you explain the success this year having lost 2 heisman winners,lendale white,darnell bing,3 starting lineman,and Lawrence Jackson who are playing in the NFL.

The only school that can rival USC in terms of sending players to the NFL and reloading for another national championship run is Ohio State.

YAYareaRB 01-03-2007 01:07 AM

Brady Quinn and the Notre Dame O-Line has good games against defenses with average to good pass rushes. Charlie Weis has his big boys coached pretty well on how to protect the golden boy, but they haven't faced anything like LSU's pass rush and "front heavy" defense. Of course, LeRon Landry holds his own, But the defensive line of LSU brings the pressure. To break it down, Jamarcus Russell needs time and needs to get the ball to the 3 playmakers Doucet, Davis, and Bowe.

LSU 34
Notre Dame 13

snuff 01-03-2007 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NickBam
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Originally Posted by elway777
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Originally Posted by NickBam
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Originally Posted by elway777
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USC was less talented than Michigan.

Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.


Seriously!!!

How else do you explain the success this year having lost 2 heisman winners,lendale white,darnell bing,3 starting lineman,and Lawrence Jackson who are playing in the NFL.

The only school that can rival USC in terms of sending players to the NFL and reloading for another national championship run is Ohio State.

Ohio State? Are you joking?

TIP 01-03-2007 01:14 AM

This game will be closer than you think 35-31

NickBam 01-03-2007 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by snuff
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Originally Posted by NickBam
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Originally Posted by elway777
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Originally Posted by NickBam
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Originally Posted by elway777
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USC was less talented than Michigan.

Yet another idiot who believes this.USC is as talented as Michigan just more inexperienced having lost alot of stars last year.

Like I said in the other thread, USC probably has more talent then anyone in the nation.


Seriously!!!

How else do you explain the success this year having lost 2 heisman winners,lendale white,darnell bing,3 starting lineman,and Lawrence Jackson who are playing in the NFL.

The only school that can rival USC in terms of sending players to the NFL and reloading for another national championship run is Ohio State.

Ohio State? Are you joking?

We did replace 9 starters on defense, that turned out pretty well for us.

RWFender1 01-03-2007 01:19 AM

I think Michigan is a great team but I believe 100 percent that USC is loaded with more talent...just like what some of you guys already said, less experienced

theskyandthejets 01-03-2007 01:44 AM

yeah what i meant was that michigan was returning talent at the key skill positions and had the best players on the field offensively and defensively (hart and woodley). i know that usc is reeaally talented. but then...that's not very relevant to the sugar bowl.

4pAc 01-03-2007 02:19 AM

it will be a close game on the score board simply because Les Miles runs the football most of the time but I dont see any shot of ND winning

theskyandthejets 01-03-2007 02:46 AM

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it will be a close game on the score board simply because Les Miles runs the football most of the time but I dont see any shot of ND winning

Miles hasn't really turned to his rushing offense to win games. LSU did not have a single 500 yard rusher on their team. JaMarcus Russell and his 3 wideouts have emerged to become the stars of the offense and have consistently put up 40+ points against bad secondaries.

The only way it's close is if ND can get the early lead, find the running game they never had, and stave off LSU's passing attack.

4pAc 01-03-2007 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 4pAc
it will be a close game on the score board simply because Les Miles runs the football most of the time but I dont see any shot of ND winning

Miles hasn't really turned to his rushing offense to win games. LSU did not have a single 500 yard rusher on their team. JaMarcus Russell and his 3 wideouts have emerged to become the stars of the offense and have consistently put up 40+ points against bad secondaries.

The only way it's close is if ND can get the early lead, find the running game they never had, and stave off LSU's passing attack.

Yeah but he uses a bunch of diferent runners and I never said they won games with their rushing, he just commits to it no matter how bad it's doing. It won't be a blowout but LSU will win decisively

yourfavestoner 01-03-2007 03:19 AM

Re: Upset in Sugar Bowl?
 
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Originally Posted by theskyandthejets
USC was less talented than Michigan, but outcoached them and won the Rose Bowl.
Boise State did the same to Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.
Notre Dame can continue the trend in the Sugar.

LSU has a lot more talent than Notre Dame, but ND has Charlie Weis.

The matchup between Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell (the first two QBs to be chosen in the 07 Draft?) should be a great one to watch too. Quinn is better, but he will be shut down by LSU's secondary and hit often by their pass rush. Russell should have a field day.

LSU 34, Notre Dame 14

ND has Charlie Weis? You mean the guy that hasn't beaten a ranked team in two years at Notre Dame?

The huge amount of time off that teams have before their Bowl Game usually hinders offenses early in the game. That favors LSU, as their defense is already dominant, and Notre Dame probably won't be able to jump out with a quick lead on them.

NickBam 01-03-2007 03:24 AM

Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

4pAc 01-03-2007 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NickBam
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

well he broke the species barrier by becoming the first whale to coach in college football

iworshipbender 01-03-2007 03:55 AM

the media is facinated by his sweaty/snotty upper lip

yourfavestoner 01-03-2007 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NickBam
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

I think that he deserves a lot of credit, but not the type of credit that people give him.

People have hailed him as the man who has brought Notre Dame back to greatness. What greatness? Like I said, he has lost to every ranked team he has played against.

The credit he should be given is that without him and Quinn, Notre Dame would probably have a losing record.

soybean 01-03-2007 04:51 AM

Jamarcus Russell is gonna choke. It'll be a close game, i hope ND beats em though.

RyanLeaf#1 01-03-2007 08:01 AM

Im a big Notre Dame fan... and personally I dont think they have any chance tonight.

Jughead10 01-03-2007 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NickBam
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

I think he is going to do something special tonight. He hasn't really done anything shocking or really inventive to catch people off guard like he used to do with the Pats yet. I think he pulls out all the stops tonight in a lot of his seniors last game.

Jughead10 01-03-2007 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by yourfavestoner
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Originally Posted by NickBam
Can someone please inform me what Charlie Weis has done to deserve all this hype?

I think that he deserves a lot of credit, but not the type of credit that people give him.

People have hailed him as the man who has brought Notre Dame back to greatness. What greatness? Like I said, he has lost to every ranked team he has played against.

The credit he should be given is that without him and Quinn, Notre Dame would probably have a losing record.

Thats not true.

diabsoule 01-03-2007 09:48 AM

I don't think Notre Dame has the talent level to play with LSU, especially in LSU's back yard.


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