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Gay Ork Wang 11-10-2008 01:28 AM

Wildcat
 
Im amazed how fast so many teams started to use it. U know Miami has success but u see ATL, PHI and the Chiefs all using it, which is pretty funny.

What do people think about it?

fenikz 11-10-2008 01:29 AM

Quan at QB with Arrington and Hightower in the back field and Fitz, Breaston, & Warner split wide

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

ChezPower4 11-10-2008 01:33 AM

This formation has proven to be very hard to defend if they have the right players running it. I wish the Pack had the personnel to run the wildcat. Let go Ryan Grant and Jordyzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

d34ng3l021 11-10-2008 01:34 AM

It is just a matter of time before teams learn to defend it. Vick and the Falcons used the option at the beginning of 2 seasons ago and started the season with a string of 200+ rushing games, and later in the season, defenses figured it out.

Same should go for this. As soon as 1 team figures it out, other teams are going to start copying it.

djp 11-10-2008 01:34 AM

I'd love to see the Vikings give it a shot with Peterson, Taylor, Allison, and Berrian.

Shane P. Hallam 11-10-2008 01:38 AM

Don't forget Baltimore with Troy Smith!

BlindSite 11-10-2008 01:44 AM

It got used some by Carolina in 06 when Delhomme missed a couple of games with a thumb injury.

This was when Dan Henning was the OC.

Gay Ork Wang 11-10-2008 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d34ng3l021 (Post 1305568)
It is just a matter of time before teams learn to defend it. Vick and the Falcons used the option at the beginning of 2 seasons ago and started the season with a string of 200+ rushing games, and later in the season, defenses figured it out.

Same should go for this. As soon as 1 team figures it out, other teams are going to start copying it.

Well Balitmore stopped it. I think the Wildcat is just a lot harder to defend, if u look at what u have, just the slightest overpersue or just a wrong reaction can lead to big chunks of yardage

NDfootball 11-10-2008 01:46 AM

Jets have been using it with Brad Smith too. I like it as a novelty play, if you break it out like 3-5 times in a game it should be fairly effective.

ElectricEye 11-10-2008 01:47 AM

People are going to figure out ways to defend it...and it's not dependable enough to keep going back to if people have it figured out.

d34ng3l021 11-10-2008 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang (Post 1305575)
Well Balitmore stopped it. I think the Wildcat is just a lot harder to defend, if u look at what u have, just the slightest overpersue or just a wrong reaction can lead to big chunks of yardage

Yeah. The amount of talent you have is definitely important, but as soon as the defense sees the Wildcat, the defense is going to be taking on different responsibilities. I dont think defenses know about that responsibility, but I am sure teams will attempt to copy what Baltimore did. It takes a lot of discipline to stop it.

Gay Ork Wang 11-10-2008 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElectricEye (Post 1305578)
People are going to figure out ways to defend it...and it's not dependable enough to keep going back to if people have it figured out.

its not a formation that can be used regulary, but it could be a trick play that will be more used than the flea flicker and reverses

tjsunstein 11-10-2008 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChezPower4 (Post 1305567)
This formation has proven to be very hard to defend if they have the right players running it. I wish the Pack had the personnel to run the wildcat. Let go Ryan Grant and Jordyzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I really do think Jordy would be pretty good back there. I want someone really versatile so we can run it too.

Shane P. Hallam 11-10-2008 02:01 AM

Who is drafting Tebow to run it :D

tjsunstein 11-10-2008 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JBond93 (Post 1305593)
Who is drafting Tebow to run it :D

If hes there when we pick I wouldnt mind some one who could play QB/RB/TE/WR/DE/LB/S

DragonFireKai 11-10-2008 02:21 AM

I think the success of the Wildcat is a testament to the lack of intelligence on the defensive side of the ball in the modern game.

Caddy 11-10-2008 03:46 AM

The Buccaneers have used it a few times too.

yourfavestoner 11-10-2008 04:01 AM

We actually run it a little bit on the high school team I coach. Schematically, it gives you an advantage over the defense because you have an equal number of blockers for defenders. Usually, on running plays the offense is outmanned, because the quarterback isn't a factor in the play at all. In the Wildcat, he absolutely is.

wicket 11-10-2008 04:44 AM

the baltimore wildcat with troy smith is the awesomest wildcat though cause they keep a good passing option in there as well, its not like you are snapping the ball to sproles where you just know for certain its gonna be a run, i love it

Burns336 11-10-2008 04:46 AM

I want the Cowboys to incorporate it using Isaiah Stanback. He's supposedly extremely athletic and he also poses more of a passing threat than what any of the other teams using the formation currently have (except Baltimore).

I still can't figure out why this wasn't brought to life for the Brad Johnson era. It would have been nice to at least see some creativity in a time of desperation.

SeanTaylorRIP 11-10-2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wicket (Post 1305634)
the baltimore wildcat with troy smith is the awesomest wildcat though cause they keep a good passing option in there as well, its not like you are snapping the ball to sproles where you just know for certain its gonna be a run, i love it

Yup that is the best. Troy Smith threw a 25 yard TD to Heap yesterday out of it. Smith is a dangerous rushing threat. Put him with Mcgahee back there and defending the option alone is tough. Then consider Smith can pull it back and throw, then you are truly forced to not only commit to the run like you can to th e Dolphins. And just the fact that Flacco is out there the defense pays attention to him, and Flacco can actually catch. Yesterday they had it set up perfectly. Troy Swung it out to Flacco in the flats. Flacco tossed it back across the field to Troy who had blockers rolling in front of him. Flacco's throw was low and Troy couldn't catch it but he had 40 yards of open field and 3 O-lineman leading the way. He probably would have taken it to the house. It adds a lot of the dimension to the Ravens offense, but should only be run 5-7 times a game. It's really different with Baltimore because of the passing threat. The QB Troy Smith can throw it. Out wide Flacco can throw it. And if you focus it on those two on the other side Mark Clayton has a great arm and has thrown a couple trick plays in his career.

Dam8610 11-10-2008 09:18 AM

The Patriots tried a wildcat against the Colts for 2 snaps, they were successful on one of them. Honestly, all it will take for a team to shut it down is a smart team that can maintain gap integrity and play assignment football. If everyone covers their assignments, it should be easily stoppable. That said, Miami seems to have a very intriguing setup for it, and it keeps working for them...it would be interesting to see them draft Tebow to keep that offensive scheme. If they did that, they could have at least 3 different guys lining up at QB, maybe even more.

bored of education 11-10-2008 09:53 AM

Get Rid Of Teh Qb Position!!!

draftguru151 11-10-2008 10:18 AM

The actual "wild cat" hasn't worked for the Dolphins since the first few weeks. The jet sweep type plays with Pennington at QB and Ricky coming in motion worked decently well, and yesterday we were using a normal shot gun formation with Ronnie at QB and Ricky and Cobbs next to him and basically ran an option read/triple option type look out of it. We keep adding new things and those work, but the actual Arkansas wild cat doesn't work much at all now that teams have seen it.

ShutDwn 11-10-2008 10:22 AM

I just think it is funny how so many commentators act like the Dolphins invented the play.


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