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TheGunShow 03-04-2007 12:33 PM

Over Paying Free Agency horrible this year
 
Nate Clement, Wes Welker, Dwayne White, Leonard Davis, Dennis Northcutt, Michael Lewis, all getting over paid. I mean Nate Clement is a very good CB. But the highest paid player in the NFL? I mean he's no Champ Bailey! Wes Welker getting 39 million! Why didn't they just re-sign Deion Branch? Dwayne White getting 6 Million a season. Over a million dollars a sack! Leonard Davis getting 7 Mill a season. Dennis Northcutt getting paid like a starter?

I for one am glad the Steelers aren't mixing it up in free agency yet.

miamichamp_305 03-04-2007 12:34 PM

Many will say it's because the salary cap has increased, I for one say it doesn't matter, everyone is still getting overpaid! Just like in baseball.

yourfavestoner 03-04-2007 12:41 PM

How insightful. Absolutely nobody else has brought this issue up on the message board yet.

JT Jag 03-04-2007 12:51 PM

Get used to it. This isn't your father's NFL. With 65% of NFL income being used on players (I.E., the Salary Cap), it'll only get worse. This is the market now. Considering how much Drew Bennett got and Kevin Curtis and Donte' Stallworth will get, Dennis Northcutt with eventually be considered something of a bargain.

yourfavestoner 03-04-2007 12:58 PM

Northcutt is making around the same that he was making in Cleveland, by the way. Like almost all of the free agent contracts signed this offseason, the deal is backloaded, so the team can cut him with few losses after a few years.

princefielder28 03-04-2007 01:00 PM

It's reminding me alot of baseball where teams feel that they need to overpay right away to get the guys they want instead of taking their time and making reasonable deals.

etk 03-04-2007 01:21 PM

Take a look at the Vishanthe Shiancoe thread.

LocCsta 03-04-2007 01:23 PM

how did michael lewis get overpaid?

JoeMontainya 03-04-2007 01:26 PM

Lewis = 10 million gaurantted on a 6 year deal, when he wasnt even a starter.

draftguru151 03-04-2007 01:31 PM

People need to realize how much the contracts actually are. The players won't see most of that money. Just like when all the rookies got HUGE contracts last year they weren't really that big because that is the most money they can see, but they won't get see most of it. The deals are pretty crazy because of the signing bonuses but they aren't anywhere near as bad as people are making it seem.

From the last one of these.

Denver Bronco99 03-04-2007 01:42 PM

well champ still makes the most a year...he avrages 9 mill a year

JoeMontainya 03-04-2007 01:43 PM

It doesnt matter if they wont see all the money, the fact is they very well COULD see all the money, and the contract alone is alot.

IndyColtScout 03-04-2007 01:44 PM

The answer is building through the draft, & avoiding FA unless someone special is out there & is worth overpaying. I'm glad the Colts usually stay out of FA (damn you Corey Simon).

Number 10 03-04-2007 01:44 PM

Consider this.

Look at the 12 teams that have signed FAs. Then go check the teams who have not been paying for FAs.

Tell me if you can find the trend.

yourfavestoner 03-04-2007 01:49 PM

I've come to the conclusion that the majority of people on this site just don't understand the salary cap.

draftguru151 03-04-2007 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by yourfavestoner (Post 187119)
I've come to the conclusion that the majority of people on this site just don't understand the salary cap.

I think you could replace salary cap with most football terminology.

etk 03-04-2007 01:51 PM

Madden 08 is gonna suck big time if I have to pay this much for mediocre offensive linemen and backup TEs/Safeties. Especially because Madden is not like the NFL, and the contracts you give players are what they seem. There's no incentives or bonuses. Ugh!

etk 03-04-2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by draftguru151 (Post 187127)
I think you could replace salary cap with most football terminology.

QFT + 932-8428 (character limit)

JoeMontainya 03-04-2007 01:52 PM

Just turn the salary cap off and have a hay day.

yourfavestoner 03-04-2007 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etk (Post 187132)
Madden 08 is gonna suck big time if I have to pay this much for mediocre offensive linemen and backup TEs/Safeties. Especially because Madden is not like the NFL, and the contracts you give players are what they seem. There's no incentives or bonuses. Ugh!

The salary cap isn't hard on Madden at all, because it escalates much more quickly than it does in real life. In reality, the salary cap increases about 6% every year. In Madden, it's something like 10%. Plus, there's the fact that in Madden, players ask for ridiculously small signing bonuses.

BehrenMan007 03-04-2007 01:55 PM

thats free agency. teams spending waaayyyy too much money cause they think they need the top guy right now. ridiculous.

JoeMontainya 03-04-2007 01:57 PM

IMO what do you want a bad team that has huge holes to fill do? You cant just not participate in FA because they demand money. And you cant address everything in the draft, theres not enough high round picks for quality players.

etk 03-04-2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yourfavestoner (Post 187146)
The salary cap isn't hard on Madden at all, because it escalates much more quickly than it does in real life. In reality, the salary cap increases about 6% every year. In Madden, it's something like 10%. Plus, there's the fact that in Madden, players ask for ridiculously small signing bonuses.

In Madden I just turn off injuries and sign the cheapest backups while all my starters are at least 96, so it's not really my problem, but it could be annoying.

Number 10 03-04-2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMontainya (Post 187157)
IMO what do you want a bad team that has huge holes to fill do? You cant just not participate in FA because they demand money. And you cant address everything in the draft, theres not enough high round picks for quality players.

But building a winner takes time and smart, sound decisions that are both beneficial in a football and business sense.

Larry 03-04-2007 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMontainya (Post 187047)
Lewis = 10 million gaurantted on a 6 year deal, when he wasnt even a starter.

The Eagles benched him to lower his value, oldest trick in the book.


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