SWDC AL-Only Dynasty League
 

There it is.

Ok, here are the members:

1) BF51- $140
2) D-Unit- $26
3) marshalllb- $34
4) DJP- $101
5) yo123- $154
6) Charm City- $55
7) Xiomera- $97
8) Giantsfan- $102

Good group.

Ok, here are the parameters:

-ESPN
-FAAB system
-Dynasty League (12 keepers + minor league roster)
-Total points scoring system
-4 man minor league roster
-25 man major league rosters (+ 2 DL spots)

Roster:
1 C
1 1B
1 2B
1 SS
1 3B
1 IF
4 OF
2 UTIL
7 P
6 Bench

4 minor league players

Scoring:

Batting:
Total Bases (TB) 1
Walks (BB) 1
Runs Scored (R) 1
Runs Batted In (RBI) 1
Stolen Bases (SB) 1.5
Strikeouts (K) -0.5

Pitching:
Innings Pitched (IP) 3
Earned Runs (ER) -2
Wins (W) 3
Quality Starts (QS) 4
Saves (SV) 6
Strikeouts (K) 1
Hits Allowed (H) -1
Walks Issued (BB) -1
Holds (HD) 3

I will post all of your 4-man minor league rosters below. All changes must be announced in this thread, and I will update your rosters accordingly.

Charm City
1) Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B, Cleveland Indians
2) Leonys Martin, OF, Round Rock Express (AAA- Texas Rangers)
3) Brad Peacock, P, Oakland Athletics
4) Garrett Richards, P, L.A. Angels

marshalllb
1) Dylan Bundy, P
2) Francisco Lindor, SS (Cleveland Indians)
3) Jake Marsinik, OF, Toronto Blue Jays
4) Jake Odorizzi P Kansas City Royals(A+ Wilmington Blue Rocks)

BF51's Akron Alchoholics
1) Martin Perez, P, Texas Rangers
2)
3) Jurickson Profar, SS, Texas Rangers
4) Noah Syndergaard, P, Toronto Blue Jays

djp
1) Daniel Bard, P, Boston Red Sox
2) Mike Montgomery, P, Omaha Storm Chasers (AAA-Kansas City Royals)
3) Anthony Ranaudo, P, Greenville Drive (A- Boston Red Sox)
4) Oswaldo Arcia, OF, New Britain Rock Cats (AA-Minnesota Twins)

giantsfan1080
1)
2) Wil Myers, OF, NW Arkansas Naturals (AA- Kansas City Royals)
3) Taijuan Walker, P, (A- Seattle Mariners)
4) Mason Williams, OF

D-Unit
1) Danny Hultzen, P, (Seattle Mariners)
2) Dan Staily, P (Oakland Athletics)
3) Ellis Johnson
4) Bubba Starling

yo123
1) Hak Ju Lee, SS, Charlotte Knights (A+- Tampa Rays)
2) Kyle Gibson, P, Rochester Red Wings (AAA-Minnesota Twins)
3) Anthony Gose, P, Toronto Blue Jays
4) Miguel Sano, SS, Minnesota Twins

Xio
1)
2) Bruce Rondon, P, Detroit Tigers
3) Travis D'Arnaud, C, New Hampshire Fisher Cats (AA-Toronto Blue Jays)
4) Nick Castellanos, 3B, Detroit Tigers

Couple thoughts

- Cups of coffee.. is there going to be a limit on innings pitched or at-bats, or when these prospects get called up, are they automatically major leaguers?

- Separate auction, or draft for minor leaguers?

Those are both good questions:

-I think if a player is called up you should have a limited amount of time to either activate him or cut him. We can negotiate exactly what that means.

-Here's what I'm thinking for the second part:

1) We won't hold the minor league player draft until 25 man rosters are set.
2) If you buy a player in auction and he doesn't make his teams' roster, you HAVE to cut him. So, if you're damn sure Strausburg will make the opening day roster you're free to draft him, but that's your risk.
3) Once rosters are set, we'll do a snake draft for the remaining minor league players, 3 players each.
4) You can adjust your minor league roster at will through a seperate thread.
5) When your minor league player advances to the majors, if you wish to add him simply pick him up in auction as you would any free agent, except nobody is allowed to bid on him.

I wish there was a way I could set up a waiver system to deal with issue #4, but I can't think of one. The fact that everyone will be available at all times will make it more fair, however.

I'm not sure if everyone is aware of the FAAB system (that is what you meant, right?) but it's where every team gets a certain $ amount per season (usually $100 or $1,000) to spend on free agents as they become available. Each week, you spend your FAAB money in an auction type setting on a specific free agent.

1. I definitely don't want roto.
2. I like the minor league draft idea.
3. I believe scotty has had intercourse with a female.
4. A standard roster setup would probably be for the best.

1. Roto blows, h2h for sure.
2. Minor's are my weak point, but I'd be down to research some minor leaguers better
3. nope.
4. I don't care at all.

Yeah, FAAB. I explained it a bit in the other thread. There's a lot of info online explaining how it works. It's the only fair way to run a one-league system.

-H2H is fine with me

-Minor League draft is fine with me

-Scotty has had sex with a female.....goat.

-10 + 7 works for me

- You guys can't handle my roto skills.

- Minor League draft is preferable.

- Scotty goes both ways.

- Whatever works.

I'm fine with whatever to be honest

Well I wont even try then, it seems weird you'd want the same guys over and over in the same leagues. I know about you know each other, but it seems like you know who each person likes and all so theres really not as much into the auction or anything in the guess work. But have fun I guess, hope it goes well.

I told Xio I would give him a bit to decide. It's not that we all like each other, it's that we can rely on each other. Nothing is worse than having someone quit on a league, it ruins it for everyone.

Ok Xio is on board.

I'd like to know what days would NOT for you guys to hold the draft. I know that it will have to be either before the March 5th or after March 10th. Please let me know ASAP. I'm guessing an auction of this size will take about 2-3 hours.

I won't be available on Tuesdays or Thursdays.

Wednesdays are usually no good unless after 10:30 p.m. Also, can we do at or after 10 p.m. if we decide Tues or Thurs? Mondays and Fridays are cool with me, weekends are okay as well.

Ok, so the 28th or the 1st would be the only realistic days before Xio leaves on the 5th.

I think the auction might even take longer than 3 hours. I'm certain of it. That's why I hate auctions.

I should be good with any day except Saturdays before 4pm cst.

Nah, I'm in an auction league for football and it only takes about an hour and a half. That was only 15 roster spots but still.

Did we decide on a scoring system?

If it's still up for vote, I am all for Roto. Points is my second choice. Head-to-head isn't good for fantasy baseball, IMO.

There's just not enough people that get saves for Roto to work in an AL only league. I think we're probably best suited doing a cumulative points league.

I'm going to nix roto. With only 1.5 closers per team that makes saves far too valuable to be realistic.

It can be points or points h2h. Seems like more people prefer h2h, but I really don't care.

h2h points should be bi-weekly scoring periods then, imo. 2 start pitchers is everything in h2h weekly points, and with half the players, you might just be winning solely on how many of your rostered pitchers start twice in a week.

Head to Head doesn't seem to generate the true winner. Let's make it straight points then.

We could also do roto without Saves as a category. Closers would simply factor in for all the other categories (which is actually the best system if you ask me).

Could eliminate a hitting category too if we wanted to even it.

My thing with cumulative points is that sometimes the people that are too far out of it tend to drift away from their teams, make stupid trades, etc. Some of that is neutralized due to the dynasty effect, but still.

I don't like bi-weekly, because then it messes with roster movement too much.You make a good point though, maybe total points with a 4 team playoff, at which point roster moves will be shut down.

The biggest reason I hate H2H is that there are playoffs. I don't want a 5 month regular season to come down to a one month playoff when rosters get watered down with Sept. call-ups.

Make every day of the season matter. Make people have to be consistent for the long haul of the 6 month season.

I like bf's idea of the 4 team playoff. Can any site actually do this automatically? I'm sure we could do it ourselves.

Xio, come on man, your old league with the total points was always marred with inactive users that were 2000+ pts behind the rest of us. It's a problem.

The entire season matters, you battle to get into the playoffs.

Right, but you yourself recall he issue with H2H not producing a true winner. Look at the War League last season. You kept getting matchup up against the team that went off for 200 points out of the blue.

The #1 seed rarely wins it all in H2H. It's all too random.

This is why Roto is the preferred Fantasy Baseball scoring system by all the experts/analysts. You can see clearly where you need to improve and then target that stat in trades.

It's not the preferred system in AL/NL only leagues, though. There's just no way to balance the categories out with the scarce amount of saves within one league.

Well thats why I said eliminate saves. RP's will factor in all the other pitching categories.

I'm not gonna keep fighting you guys on this. H2H Points is fine, but I don't think it's a great system.

Yeah, I tend to agree. I don't like roto simply for the reason of "save inflation" but I do think saves should be worth something. I'll put together a points system for tweaking.

What pitching category would you add? Saves is the only category that reliever truly effect. If there was a way to combine holds and saves, I'd be all for it. No reliever has any value compared to other starters without saves.

There are 3 H2H options on ESPN.

H2H straight points, H2H categories (producing a single win and loss per matchup), and H2H most categories (where you get a win-loss for the # of categories there are).

I don't like the category options. I think it should be a Win-Loss strictly on points. That gives people a freedom to build whatever type of roster they want.

Ok, well let's go with that then. If BF wants to come up with a preliminary scoring system, we'll all do our best to help him tweak it, agreed?

I disagree, but we seem to have proceeded with a Points league of some sort.

RP's tend to have lower ERA and WHIP (at least the good ones) so they will have effects there. And on K's as well.

You could eliminate an offensive category in theory. Maybe throw total bases in there in place of two standard categories. As overrated as Saves are in fantasy baseball, steals are just the same.

What roster slots are we going with? Did I see we'd be having MI, CI, and 5 OF?

Wouldn't that mean nearly every AL starting position player is a starter in this league? 10 teams here, 14 AL teams.

It's fine, I am just trying to get up to speed here.

Your comment doesn't make any sense. Relievers throw nowhere near as many innings as starters do. ERA and WHIP are both relative to innings pitched. A guy with a 3.50 ERA who has thrown 180 innings is infinitely more valuable than a guy with a 3.00 ERA that's thrown 50 innings.

Actually you can do saves+holds as a category. What about that?

Could be our best bet then, plus would give it a unique twist most other leagues don't have.