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Crickett 07-20-2010 05:18 PM

NCAA investigating every sports program from every school past present and future?
 
It's starting to seem that way.


You can add Alabama to the list.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5396236

Mr. Goosemahn 07-20-2010 05:22 PM

This is starting to get ridiculous. NCAA needs to update their rules or something, or players need to understand them.

And why aren't the people offering the money/perks getting penalized? They're the ones that are actually starting all of this in the first place.

Sniper 07-20-2010 05:28 PM

SEC! SEC! SEC!

Who's next?

Sniper 07-20-2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn (Post 2235388)
This is starting to get ridiculous. NCAA needs to update their rules or something, or players need to understand them.

It's not that ******* hard to understand. No talking to agents or receiving any kind of benefits while you're still a college athlete. It really isn't that difficult. The NCAA WILL find out and they WILL be douchebags about it.

nrk 07-20-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper (Post 2235434)
It's not that ******* hard to understand. No talking to agents or receiving any kind of benefits while you're still a college athlete. It really isn't that difficult. The NCAA WILL find out and they WILL be douchebags about it.

No one ever thinks they're going to get caught though, so they take the gifts.

Mr. Goosemahn 07-20-2010 05:48 PM

But it's the agents who should be penalized heavily though. I mean, yeah, follow the rules or something for the athletes, but if you're a guy who's been working his ass off for many years and have struggled financially all your life, and this guy comes and tells you that he'll give you money or cars or **** like that, and you won't get caught, and even if you are caught nothing will happen to you if you're in the NFL, you'll take the gift.

The agents should be penalized by the NFL. No salary for a year or something, make it really hurt.

RealityCheck 07-20-2010 06:08 PM

Congratulations NCAA. You're officially paranoid.

P-L 07-20-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn (Post 2235455)
The agents should be penalized by the NFL. No salary for a year or something, make it really hurt.

Agents do not get paid by the NFL.

Sniper 07-20-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 2235510)
Congratulations NCAA. You're officially paranoid.

They need to stop only going after the little guys. Sack up and go after some BCS contenders.

RealityCheck 07-20-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper (Post 2235532)
They need to stop only going after the little guys. Sack up and go after some BCS contenders.

Sure. I don't know why they don't go after Western Kentucky...

Sniper 07-20-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 2235538)
Sure. I don't know why they don't go after Western Kentucky...

Or Michi...ah, ****.

brat316 07-20-2010 06:33 PM

Look at UF. SEC ahhahaha.

brat316 07-20-2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn (Post 2235455)
But it's the agents who should be penalized heavily though. I mean, yeah, follow the rules or something for the athletes, but if you're a guy who's been working his ass off for many years and have struggled financially all your life, and this guy comes and tells you that he'll give you money or cars or **** like that, and you won't get caught, and even if you are caught nothing will happen to you if you're in the NFL, you'll take the gift.

The agents should be penalized by the NFL. No salary for a year or something, make it really hurt.

How is the agent going to be peanlized by the NCAA?

If you are that guy who has been working his ass off, shouldn't u know better? You are just as guilty as the agent. And then also the coaches and AD who find out about it and do nothing. I mean come on, one of you players all of a sudden has a car or is making trip to Miami. When you know they can't afford it.

Yeah the agent is a bad man, but your the one breaking the rules by accepting the gifts.

Mr. Goosemahn 07-20-2010 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhaarat316 (Post 2235611)
How is the agent going to be peanlized by the NCAA?

If you are that guy who has been working his ass off, shouldn't u know better? You are just as guilty as the agent. And then also the coaches and AD who find out about it and do nothing. I mean come on, one of you players all of a sudden has a car or is making trip to Miami. When you know they can't afford it.

Yeah the agent is a bad man, but your the one breaking the rules by accepting the gifts.

True. I dunno, it's just that most of these guys have horrible judgment and these gifts are simply too much for them to reject, so I believe there should be an alternate way of preventing these things from happening. Who knows how they'd do it though.

LizardState 07-20-2010 07:13 PM

Did you see Saban's response? Pretty bold move, "take the schools off the hook." He said it's time to discuss banning the NFL from the campuses to keep the agents away.

Saban feels very strongly about his player contacted by agents. Remember Andre Smith, the Outland winner who admitted agent contact & was thrown off the team before their Sugar Bowl game ? That was the Tide's last loss, Utah got 7-8 sacks, mostly through Smith's OLT position.

Spurrier said they "can't keep the agents away," & he may be right. Lock them up in the ape dorms at sundown? Put electronic ankle sensors on them, IDK.

Whoever held that party in Florida where Austin was with the leading d-linemen in the nation, allegedly paid for their transportation, meals etc. s/b locked up though

brat316 07-20-2010 07:18 PM

Banning the NFL from campuses is not going to keep the agents away. They still are going to know who the big players are and that they need to sign them.

Getting rid of the NFL will get rid of agents, but no one wants that.


You're right you can't avoid players from coming in contact with the agents, but you gotta make sure they know not to take these gifts from them.

LizardState 07-21-2010 04:01 PM

Saban: Agents no better than pimps
 
Told you he felt very strongly about agents contacting players.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...agents-pimps/1

You could tell from the speech he made at SEC Media Day in Birmingham that he is pissed.

He wants some kind of punitive action taken against these agents, their runners/intermediaries & the NFL.

ESPN reported that the NFLPA is taking "an aggressive approach" to punishing the agents who contact players under scholarship, citing the huge guaranteed $ going to top draft picks & "pure greed" motivating them to get in 1st with a player who is projected to go top 10.

Even more appalling are the means they use, like the "runners," or agent go-betweens who have ties to high profile college programs, some of them are boosters & others, some shockingly pastors & parents. I should surprise no one that maybe some bribe $ going to grad assts. for players secret cell nos. is happening too. And the use of prepaid cell accts, offshore & anonymous accts, etc. smacks of criminal activity.

And criminal was the operative word used by the NFLPA Executive Director when he commented on this on ESPN radio yesterday. With the NFLPA, NCAA & the college coaches all calling for new regulations I think it's going to be forthcoming before the season starts.

descendency 07-21-2010 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 2235510)
Congratulations NCAA. You're officially paranoid.

Is it paranoid if you are actually being followed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhaarat316 (Post 2235700)
Banning the NFL from campuses is not going to keep the agents away. They still are going to know who the big players are and that they need to sign them.

It will get the NFLPA and NFL Owners to do something about the agent problem though.

BRAVEHEART 07-21-2010 05:06 PM

These teams are cheating, bunch of cheaters.

jballa838 08-05-2010 11:15 AM

serious note. From what I've experienced, it is schools from your conference/area that tip off the NCAA, anonymously. Most of the time, but sometimes coaches find out who it was. Totally sucked because the NCAA is WAY more lenient when it comes to some things compared to others.

Saints-Tigers 08-05-2010 03:31 PM

Should be legal to get gifts anyway.

Sniper 08-05-2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saints-Tigers (Post 2251337)
Should be legal to get gifts anyway.

Wow, an SEC fan saying rules shouldn't be followed. I've never seen this before.

Scotty D 08-06-2010 05:39 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5440231

West Virginia accused of five major football violations

iowatreat54 08-06-2010 11:39 AM

I love this. The NCAA has been awesome in the past 6 months. It's about time they started investigating and calling out schools, even for dumb ****.

And yes if Iowa was investigated and doing something wrong, I'd be pissed but at the team not the NCAA.

Saints-Tigers 08-06-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper (Post 2251491)
Wow, an SEC fan saying rules shouldn't be followed. I've never seen this before.

Did you even read what I said? I didn't say the rule shouldn't be followed, I said it shouldn't be a rule. If you want to try and take a shot at something, at least learn some reading comprehension.

You're partially right though, if they start taking the good players off of the SEC teams, you know, the guys that agents actually give stuff too, the joke conferences like the big 10 might actually mean something in the grand scheme of things.

I know you just wanted to take a dig at the SEC, but my favorite college team isn't even in the SEC, but it's still funny to me how much the other conferences suck in comparison, and how much it pisses people off.


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