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Hines 03-03-2011 01:15 PM

2011 Pittsburgh Steelers Draft/Offseason Thread
 
Discuss all draft and offseason related material here. Here's hoping we have a season next year.

I hope Shane or someone can sticky this.

brat316 03-03-2011 01:51 PM

Sticky IT.

Jakey 03-03-2011 01:53 PM

We should all post players we want, per round, then maybe have a voting mock at the end of something like that. Anyways, these are some players i hope we look at...


Round 1: Gabe Carimi, Derek Sherrod, Mike Pouncey, Marcus Cannon, Stefan Wisniewski, Cameron Jordan (unlikely), JJ Watt (unlikely), Brandon Harris, Jimmy Smith, Rahim Moore.

Round 2: Jonathan Baldwin (unlikely), Leonard Hankerson, Lance Kendricks, Ben Ijalana, Orlando Franklin, Danny Watkins, Rodney Hudson, Cameron Heyward, Phil Taylor (unlikely), Jurrell Powe, Ras-I Dowling, Bandon Burton.

Round 3: Greg Little, Edmund Gates, DJ Williams, Marcus Gilbert, Demarcus Love, Jason Pinkston, Will Rackley, Brandon Fusco (OG), Allen Bailey, Kenrick Ellis, Jarvis Jenkins, Dontay Moch, Nate Irving, Kelvin Sheppard, Rashad Carmichael, Johnny Patrick, Jalil Brown, Ahmad Black, 3rd down back.

brat316 03-03-2011 02:17 PM

I got Rbs in mind.

Carter, Lewis, Vereen. 3/4 round.

Jakey 03-03-2011 03:13 PM

Still pissed we lost Thad Gibson, whats the chances of a Sonny Harris style return?

K Train 03-03-2011 04:22 PM

Round one targets:

Mike Pouncey, Gabe Carimi, Phil Taylor, Jimmy Smith, Brandon Harris, Adrian Clayborn, Cameron Heyward

Round 2 targets:

Curtis Brown, Kendrick Ellis, Quinton Carter, Deunta Williams, Rasi Dowling, Greg Jones, Greg Romeus, Allen Bailey, Jarvis Jenkins, Kyle Rudolph

Round 3 Targets:

Marcus Gilbert, James Brewer, Greg Little, Austin Pettis, Jerrell Powe, Javon House, Johnny Patrick, Lance Kendricks, Rashad Carmichael

Round 4 targets:

Chykie Brown, Demarcus Love, DeAnde Brown <3, Ahmad Black, Jason Pinkston, Kris Odowd

5-7 randomness

Josh Bynes, Alex Henery, Terrence Tolliver, Joseph Barksdale, Chimdi Chekwa,

K Train 03-03-2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey (Post 2542276)
Still pissed we lost Thad Gibson, whats the chances of a Sonny Harris style return?

im so mad....and we lost al woods. both man crushes of mine

Hines 03-03-2011 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey (Post 2542276)
Still pissed we lost Thad Gibson, whats the chances of a Sonny Harris style return?

Gibson was a numbers game, man. It was a good problem to have. I don't really agree with it, but we can pick up another Thad Gibson some other time.

K Train 03-03-2011 05:13 PM

i liked gibson so much more than guys like mclendon, battle, el, and madison.

i think he'll be better than worilds too, but hey im glad aaron smith was such a big contributor down the stretch

Hines 03-03-2011 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Train (Post 2542445)
i liked gibson so much more than guys like mclendon, battle, el, and madison.

i think he'll be better than worilds too, but hey im glad aaron smith was such a big contributor down the stretch

I would have taken the chance to him returning as well. You can go back and say it was a dumb move all you want. The fact is, we had enough linebackers to where we could have gotten rid of one. I don't think Mclendon was on the team yet, Battle and El were crucial at that point, and Madison is our top special teams guy.

Also, I don't know if I am right or anything, but there was a rumor that Thad wasn't doing what he was suppose to do and failing to grasp the things he needed to do.

Frankly no one knows why they cut him for everyone outside of the organization. If it was something that he was not suppose to do, then the Steelers made the right choice in letting him go.

K Train 03-03-2011 05:27 PM

i would have definitely IRd him, his arm muscles are in shambles and hes old. Call me captain hindsight but i know i said that at the time it happened.

battle wasnt, isnt or ever will be a crucial part of any team. Thad was raw no doubt about it but i do believe he had unreal potential as an OLB or even in a dansby like MLB role. He was so young, if he wasnt grasping it i wouldnt be surprised. what im hearing is they are loving him in SF

Hines 03-03-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Train (Post 2542479)
i would have definitely IRd him, his arm muscles are in shambles and hes old. Call me captain hindsight but i know i said that at the time it happened.

battle wasnt, isnt or ever will be a crucial part of any team. Thad was raw no doubt about it but i do believe he had unreal potential as an OLB or even in a dansby like MLB role. He was so young, if he wasnt grasping it i wouldnt be surprised. what im hearing is they are loving him in SF

Battle, at the time, was a major part of our special teams. Thad wasn't a part of anything rotting on the bench.

I liked Thad like everyone else, but it was a numbers game.

Jakey 03-03-2011 07:16 PM

Well i wish i hadnt brought that up lol.

On another topic, how high a priority do you think wr is for us? On paper it looks good with Wallace, Ward, Manny and Brown...but Hines is really showing his age now, if one of the younger guys gets hurt, i dont know how confident id be in our passing game. Whow do you think we should target in fa and/or the draft?

p.s. im typing this on my girls wii, took me about half an hour. fml lol

Hines 03-03-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey (Post 2542665)
Well i wish i hadnt brought that up lol.

On another topic, how high a priority do you think wr is for us? On paper it looks good with Wallace, Ward, Manny and Brown...but Hines is really showing his age now, if one of the younger guys gets hurt, i dont know how confident id be in our passing game. Whow do you think we should target in fa and/or the draft?

p.s. im typing this on my girls wii, took me about half an hour. fml lol

Personally, I think we will see Manny and Wallace on the outside and Hines in the slot. I don't think it's too much of a priority, but if a top guy falls, I can see us taking them.

mikehop05 03-03-2011 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hines (Post 2542674)
Personally, I think we will see Manny and Wallace on the outside and Hines in the slot. I don't think it's too much of a priority, but if a top guy falls, I can see us taking them.

manny needs to get a lot stronger if he wants to play on the outside imo

brat316 03-03-2011 08:55 PM

punters. Spev is done, 3 ACLs injuries. 2 NFL, 1 college.

Hines 03-06-2011 08:58 AM

There's rumors that Rahim Moore could fall to the third. If he's there, you got to take him.

Jakey 03-06-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hines (Post 2544870)
There's rumors that Rahim Moore could fall to the third. If he's there, you got to take him.

Definately, id take him in the 2nd for sure.

He could help out as a NB/DB for a while, then take over for Ryan Clark whenever needed.

steelernation77 03-06-2011 11:57 AM

If Hankerson drops to us in the 2nd, I'd say he's worth consideration. Sanders is a nice player but both he and Wallace lack physicality.

Hines 03-06-2011 11:59 AM

Give me Greg Little if/when he falls.

Jakey 03-06-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelernation77 (Post 2544946)
If Hankerson drops to us in the 2nd, I'd say he's worth consideration. Sanders is a nice player but both he and Wallace lack physicality.

Sanders doesnt lack physicality imo...he just lacks abit of size/bulk. If he was the same size as Hankerson he would be easily as physical, if not more.

steelernation77 03-06-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey (Post 2544951)
Sanders doesnt lack physicality imo...he just lacks abit of size/bulk. If he was the same size as Hankerson he would be easily as physical, if not more.

He seemed like he had trouble beating jams last season. Regardless, he's naturally a small guy, and that's always going to limit him some. Once Ward is gone, we're going to need someone with a physical presence.

brat316 03-06-2011 02:24 PM

I'm not sold on drafting a WR this year. To much of a luxury pick this year.

1) Cb
2) RG
3) RT
4) NT
5) P/k
6) Rb
7) S
8) LB

mikehop05 03-06-2011 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhaarat316 (Post 2545048)
I'm not sold on drafting a WR this year. To much of a luxury pick this year.

1) Cb
2) RG
3) RT
4) NT
5) P/k
6) Rb
7) S
8) LB

/agreed, tho i may list tackle higher than guard

brat316 03-06-2011 03:33 PM

Yeah T and G i rank about the same. Right now Flo is there at RT better than anything we have at G. I would like a swing man like Anthony Castanzo. Could come in and play RG right away, and move over to RT later.


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