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Flyboy 09-08-2011 06:56 PM

Hypothetical: Colts Have #1 Overall Pick...
 
I don't make many threads or post very much on here as much as I used to, however as I was listening to Sirius earlier and heard a caller whom was a surgeon's opinion about Peyton Manning's health.

If the Colts have the #1 overall pick in the draft and say Peyton Manning is still struggling to get healthy and Andrew Luck is sitting there.. even with the contract that Manning just signed - what should or would the Colts do in if that situation was presented?

CashmoneyDrew 09-08-2011 07:02 PM

Luck all the way.

This would be an interesting poll.

Flyboy 09-08-2011 07:04 PM

A mod/admin could definitely make a poll out of it.

CashmoneyDrew 09-08-2011 07:05 PM

Post more often btw.

Shane P. Hallam 09-08-2011 07:13 PM

Well, you could have added a poll. I cannot.

And yes, they would take Luck. Or even better, get a beast package to trade down.

tjsunstein 09-08-2011 07:16 PM

Andrew Luck learning from Peyton Manning? Sweet baby jesus.

FUNBUNCHER 09-08-2011 07:17 PM

All of Peyton's contract isn't guaranteed, and I could envision a scenario where the Colts let go of Peyton in three years, sooner if his neck injury acutely affects Manning's performance.

If I were Peyton, because of the nature of his position and the hits he takes potentially in the pocket, with the risk of potential spinal damage and paralysis I'd consider retiring.

If the 49ers dumped Montana for Steve Young and GB kicked Favre to the curb for Rodgers, I don't think any player is untouchable.

If the Colts draft Luck, we will all be witnessing the beginning of the end of Peyton Manning's career as an Indianapolis Colt.

FUNBUNCHER 09-08-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjsunstein (Post 2670657)
Andrew Luck learning from Peyton Manning? Sweet baby jesus.

Right??

THat's just not fair. Goodell needs to fine somebody for....something.

Flyboy 09-08-2011 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 2670653)
Well, you could have added a poll. I cannot.

Wasn't really a thought of mine when I was making the thread - more just really focused on the discussion aspect of the topic at hand. It was a good idea in hindsight, but wasn't my main focus when starting the initial thread.

Giantsfan1080 09-08-2011 07:27 PM

They would not take Luck. You know how much cap space the 2 of them would take up? Also, if Manning comes back healthy next year he still has a 5 year window to win. They'd be much better off trading the pick for a crazy package and souping the team up. A franchise player like Manning doesn't just get thrown out of the team for a QB prospect. I've been on the Luck bandwagon forever but he's still not close enough to a sure thing that you'd kick Peyton Manning to the curb. I know people think it would be amazing for a franchise to go from Manning to Luck but it's not going to happen unless Peyton retires. Peyton is to much of a gamer for that to happen.

Pat Sims 90 09-08-2011 07:38 PM

But Luck is a lock for the Bengals according to most people.... I guess a Kerry Collins Colts is better then a Andy Dalton Bengals.

I think regardless whoever picks 1st should take Luck.

Scott Wright 09-08-2011 09:46 PM

The Colts gotta take Luck in the scenario.

In fact, there are only two or three teams that should even think about passing on Luck.

TheBoyWonder22 09-08-2011 10:08 PM

The only teams that shouldn't are Atlanta, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, San Diego and Tampa. Every other team should at least consider it.

Babylon 09-08-2011 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 2670661)
All of Peyton's contract isn't guaranteed, and I could envision a scenario where the Colts let go of Peyton in three years, sooner if his neck injury acutely affects Manning's performance.

If I were Peyton, because of the nature of his position and the hits he takes potentially in the pocket, with the risk of potential spinal damage and paralysis I'd consider retiring.

If the 49ers dumped Montana for Steve Young and GB kicked Favre to the curb for Rodgers, I don't think any player is untouchable.

If the Colts draft Luck, we will all be witnessing the beginning of the end of Peyton Manning's career as an Indianapolis Colt.

I could see Peyton being gone in as soon as a year maybe two if he does indeed miss this year and they draft Andrew Luck.

What sucks is without Manning the Colts might be worse than Seattle.

NIN1984 09-08-2011 10:56 PM

They would have to Luck. The fan base would love it. The Colts franchise would be set at QB for another 10+ years. Wow, over 20 years of fantastic QB play. That's if Luck pans out of course.

killxswitch 09-08-2011 11:01 PM

Of course they should and would take Luck. If Manning is so injured he can't play at all this season, he will not play into his 40s. I'd say 2 or 3 years max. Plenty of time for Luck to learn. Manning can retire when he's ready and Luck can step in seamlessly.

Though if they traded the #1 pick to somebody else for a bunch of picks/players and still got either Barkley or Jones, it could still work out great. Luck is probably good enough that he wouldn't necessarily need to sit a couple years. Barkley and Jones would both benefit from that situation more.

The Colts could come away from this draft with their QB of the future even if they pick in the 5-8 range.

Big Bird 09-08-2011 11:10 PM

Luck would get the Aaron Rodgers treatment, being able to develop and learn from one of the greatest to ever play (in Luck's case, the greatest at the QB position IMO).

It would just be insane and I think the universe would implode.

DI 09-08-2011 11:12 PM

Without question. I was actually going to post this same exact thread earlier. No doubt they take Luck and learns from Peyton. Just unfair.

Don Vito 09-08-2011 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER (Post 2670663)
Right??

THat's just not fair. Goodell needs to fine somebody for....something.

Or just say they cheated and take their pick away

tjsunstein 09-09-2011 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 2671169)
Or just say they cheated and take their pick away

Are you saying that because of that spy gate thing?

niel89 09-09-2011 01:04 AM

The possibility of going from one franchise QB to another is just too tempting to pass. If Luck is given 2-3 years of being on the bench to learn, then he has a great potential of being successful. Manning isn't looking like a guy who will be playing for another 5 years right now. Getting Manning weapons keeps the window open for another 3-4 years; getting Luck could keep the window open for another 10+ years.

BeerBaron 09-09-2011 05:54 AM

I was utterly torn. I have this feeling that if they are told that Peyton will be back to 100% for 2012, they wouldn't do it.

But I think it would be the intelligent thing to do. And they don't even really need to have the #1 pick for Luck. If they're picking anywhere in the top 10 and have a shot at any top QB, they should do it.

killxswitch 09-09-2011 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerBaron (Post 2671232)
I was utterly torn. I have this feeling that if they are told that Peyton will be back to 100% for 2012, they wouldn't do it.

But I think it would be the intelligent thing to do. And they don't even really need to have the #1 pick for Luck. If they're picking anywhere in the top 10 and have a shot at any top QB, they should do it.

If Manning doesn't return it's as close to a lock as you can get that they'll have a top 10 pick. I'd prefer Luck but Barkley or Jones might be fantastic consolation prizes on their own.

PossibleCabbage 09-09-2011 08:53 AM

The only circumstance in which the team who lands the #1 overall pick wouldn't take Luck, is if that team trades away the pick before it is made.

If a team with a great situation at QB improbably ends up picking #1 overall, that team will still pick Andrew Luck because the package of picks and players you can get in exchange for the rights to Luck will exceed the value of any other player you could select at #1.

falloutboy14 09-09-2011 09:38 AM

Aside from the Colts getting their hands on Luck, the situation I most want to see is, a team with a young, established QB get the first pick to 1) see how they handle it. and 2) see what trade they get. 3 first round picks?


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