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SeanTaylorRIP 09-25-2011 10:41 AM

Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
 
I'd like to know others thoughts of him as he's having a Demaryius type season so far. Of course he's a tough one to break down given his offensive system and the lack of pro routes he runs but IMO on physical tools alone he's a top 100 pick which ever year he is in the draft. He reminds me some of Braylon Edwards. Tall guy who is tough to bring down, and is just as likely to make a highlight wow catch as he is to make a horrible drop. I see flashes of brilliant ball skills but last year in particular he just drops easy passes. I think it will be interesting to see where he goes if he declares this year. If he has a 1000 yard year this year there really is no point in staying another year as there is nothing more he can prove in the GAtech option system.

Ozzy 09-25-2011 09:34 PM

Yeah this kid is sick, he is WAY better than Demaryius Thomas. Much faster, more fluid on the field, this kid is a great looking prospect, big time receiver! Sure his statistics are inflated because of the lack of coverage at times, but he is faster and more athletic and Thomas was, and one could argue he is just a skinny version of Calvin Johnson, with probably worse hands than Johnson but arguably comparable speed.

YAYareaRB 09-25-2011 09:53 PM

it always amazes me how triple option teams get a WR out on the radar.

jrdrylie 09-25-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozzy (Post 2690734)
Yeah this kid is sick, he is WAY better than Demaryius Thomas. Much faster, more fluid on the field, this kid is a great looking prospect, big time receiver! Sure his statistics are inflated because of the lack of coverage at times, but he is faster and more athletic and Thomas was, and one could argue he is just a skinny version of Calvin Johnson, with probably worse hands than Johnson but arguably comparable speed.

I don't think he is going to come close to running a 4.34 or whatever CJ ran.

BamaFalcon59 09-26-2011 12:58 AM

He's not way better than Demaryius Thomas. He's not even better. It's doubful he goes in round one a la Thomas and Thomas put up insane numbers considering GT passed the ball far less during his tenure there and had a glorified RB/FB at QB in Nesbitt (although he was monsterous in that option).

Demaryius was fast as hell to boot at 6'3" 230.

During Thomas' junior year, he had 46 receptions for 1,154 yards and 8 touchdowns.

For comparisons sake, Tevin Washington has 42 attempts and 821 yards thus far in the season and GT has been out way ahead in three of its four games. Josh Nesbitt, in 2009, had 1,701 yards and 10 touchdowns passing.

Ozzy 09-27-2011 07:55 AM

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He's not way better than Demaryius Thomas. He's not even better. It's doubful he goes in round one a la Thomas and Thomas put up insane numbers considering GT passed the ball far less during his tenure there and had a glorified RB/FB at QB in Nesbitt (although he was monsterous in that option).

Demaryius was fast as hell to boot at 6'3" 230.

During Thomas' junior year, he had 46 receptions for 1,154 yards and 8 touchdowns.

For comparisons sake, Tevin Washington has 42 attempts and 821 yards thus far in the season and GT has been out way ahead in three of its four games. Josh Nesbitt, in 2009, had 1,701 yards and 10 touchdowns passing.
If he comes back for his senior season he will go round 1 I think. He could sneak into late 1st round if he comes out this year, but would be wise to stay.

Statistics do not tell it all, sure Nesbitt was an awful quarterback but Washington is not that much better of a passer, but the offense they play both players have distorted statistics so I just throw that out the window.

I feel Hill is a more fluid and natural athlete, less bulky and quicker. Did you not see the one handed catch he had against UNC? Kid is a player and if he sticks around another year he could become even better I feel.

Buc Baller12 02-13-2012 10:48 PM

can i get an anlysis on hill? very intriguing too me

TitansCJftw 02-13-2012 11:18 PM

do not like and still don't like thomas or anybody at skill positions coming from this crapshoot offense, bring in 6'5"ish wr run go routes get 1000 yards off of complete bs, bring in 230lb or 5'5" 160lb rb get 1000+ yards with an amazing ypc complete crap no way in hell to actually judge talent

norcalgsr 02-14-2012 12:37 AM

Great fit in San Diego, where all they run are go routes.

ellsy82 02-14-2012 01:15 AM

I wouldn't say he's SICK. He's a big play WR that when actually GETS targeted...comes up for big plays. His lack of production this last year concerns me, but he's a player.

TACKLE 02-14-2012 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ellsy82 (Post 2859010)
I wouldn't say he's SICK. He's a big play WR that when actually GETS targeted...comes up for big plays. His lack of production this last year concerns me, but he's a player.

Lack of production? He had 820 yards a lead the nation with 29.3 yards per catch in an offense that only completed just over 6 passes a game.

ATLDirtyBirds 02-14-2012 09:37 AM

I said this in the Alshon thread, but I have the two of them very, very close.

Brown Leader 02-14-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Buc Baller12 (Post 2858943)
can i get an anlysis on hill? very intriguing too me

He's a skinny Brandon Marshall with just as much upside imo.

A Perfect Score 02-14-2012 07:31 PM

I really like the idea of him in San Diego. That's a very, very good fit. Especially if they lose Jackson.

Duffman57 02-14-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by A Perfect Score (Post 2859707)
I really like the idea of him in San Diego. That's a very, very good fit. Especially if they lose Jackson.

I'd be ok with him in the 2nd/3rd if we lose Jackson, and add a lesser guy like Meachem or something like that.

JohnCandy 02-19-2012 10:11 AM

The issue that I have seen is that if I am a team picking WR in the 2nd round I do not see a ton of WRs with #1 potential.

Marvin McNutt
Dwight Jones
Nick Toon
Mo Sanu

The above guys all look like career #2 WRs and I do not see #1 WR potential.

Stephen Hill
Brian Quick

While raw they look like they could be impact players in the NFL.

JohnCandy 02-26-2012 04:01 PM

Height: 6-4”
Weight: 215lbs
Arms: 33’ 3/8”
Hands: 9’3/8”
Forty: 4.30 & 4.31 (NFL says official time was 4.36)
Bench: 14 reps
Board: 11’10”
Vertical: 39.5”

Was outstanding in the drills & came across well in his NFL Network interview & his game tape shows he carries his athleticism to the field & plays with toughness…

SuperPacker 02-26-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jrdrylie (Post 2690840)
I don't think he is going to come close to running a 4.34 or whatever CJ ran.

unlucky jrdylie ;)

Larry 02-26-2012 04:20 PM

I really hope the Pats don't some how get this kid.

JohnCandy 02-26-2012 04:24 PM

http://seahawksdraftblog.com/stephen...tech-game-tape

Vaylor 02-26-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry (Post 2875402)
I really hope the Pats don't some how get this kid.

Agreed. Im tired of this team drafting the 'High-Upside Project Receiver' and cutting him 2-3 years later because they can't learn the system.

descendency 02-26-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaylor (Post 2875427)
Agreed. Im tired of this team drafting the 'High-Upside Project Receiver' and cutting him 2-3 years later because they can't learn the system.

He could run just 9 routes and be Randy Moss. If he's available at the bottom of the second, I'd do it in a heart beat.

JohnCandy 02-26-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency (Post 2875439)
He could run just 9 routes and be Randy Moss. If he's available at the bottom of the second, I'd do it in a heart beat.

I doubt a guy with this upside makes it out of the top 40 picks.

If he shows he can catch passes from a real QB and cleanly at his Pro Day to confirm the combine results he could fly up like Demaryius Thomas.

Poz51 02-26-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnCandy (Post 2875379)
Height: 6-4”
Weight: 215lbs
Arms: 33’ 3/8”
Hands: 9’3/8”
Forty: 4.30 & 4.31 (NFL says official time was 4.36)
Bench: 14 reps
Board: 11’10”
Vertical: 39.5”

Was outstanding in the drills & came across well in his NFL Network interview & his game tape shows he carries his athleticism to the field & plays with toughness…

I think he put himself in the first round, I like him to the Pat's if he makes it to them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by descendency (Post 2875439)
He could run just 9 routes and be Randy Moss. If he's available at the bottom of the second, I'd do it in a heart beat.

This is what I thought watching him on the NFL network. I doubt he makes it past Buffalo in the second right now (perfect fit IMO, with Gailey's offense). What about the first round, I think he is exactly what they need to open up that offense fully.

Poz51 02-26-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnCandy (Post 2875455)
I doubt a guy with this upside makes it out of the top 40 picks.

If he shows he can catch passes from a real QB and cleanly at his Pro Day to confirm the combine results he could fly up like Demaryius Thomas.

I agree completely.


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